Linux marketshare is now big enough to fit tux inside the chart! We did it!
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unfortunately this is mostly an instance of https://xkcd.com/1102/
I'm as happy about this news as the next tech enthusiast, but bluntly, it's not a big shift. Going from ... What? 5% to 6%? That's great and all but it's hardly moving the needle.
If we want a significant shift we need OEMs selling prebuilt PCs with some flavor of Linux pre-installed, that's as easy to use as the competition (Windows/mac) with compatibility that's both good enough and transparent enough that people don't need to think about it much.
Before we get Linux OEM PCs on store shelves, we need to figure out that last bit first.
That still hasn't happened yet. We can't even agree what window manager should be used, nevermind any of the dozen or so other critical services on the system...
The thing that makes Linux great is that anyone and everyone can, and does, make stuff for it. That's also the thing that's going to hold it back from being put on store shelves pre installed on prebuilt PCs.
If you look at the commercially successful variants of Linux (ChromeOS and Android), you'll see that taking away freedom/choice was the first thing they did.
And ultimately, if you are targeting the mass market, that's almost required.
ChromeOS isn't successful.
Successful compared to what? I don't have data, but I'd venture to say that it's the most popular desktop Linux distro.
It's a bit past its peak, but in 2023 it had 7% market share in the quite lucrative North American market. That's not nothing. In North America, all other Linux distros combined just overtook ChromeOS this year. World-wide it was last year.
There's also no other Linux distro that comes pre-installed on devices from different manufacturers (at least none that I know of).
Yes. By the porn stats, Linux already crushes ChromeOs. Let's not take any advice from it.
Well, all Linux distros combined are more than ChromeOS. If you split up by distro, ChromeOS is still the top Linux distro by far.
Interesting. I would have guessed that Mint gave ChromeOS a run for it's money, by now.
Really difficult to actually get good numbers here since there's a ton of sampling bias and user agent strings (which are used for most of these market share detectors) don't capture Linux distros apart from ChromeOS.
But we can combine sources to get somewhere.
The Steam Hardware and Software Survey doesn't include any data on ChromeOS, because there's no Steam on ChromeOS, but it says that there's a total market share for Linux of 3.2% with the most common Linux Distro being Arch with a market share of 0.32% (probably due to the Steam Deck), followed by Mint with 0.24%.
So double the maket share to get roughly to the 6.3% total Linux maket share from PH, and we get Arch with 0.64% and Mint with 0.48%, which is both much much lower than the 2.4% of ChromeOS on PH.
Standardization is a requirement. Whether that still gives the user the ability to color outside of the lines on what's considered "standard" will be the key factor.
If we want a significant shift we need OEMs selling prebuilt PCs with some flavor of Linux pre-installed, that's as easy to use as the competition (Windows/mac) with compatibility that's both good enough and transparent enough that people don't need to think about it much.
This probably won't be showing up on shelves at best buy along side computers from the likes of Dell, HP, and Lenovo. I kind of expect it to show up next to the Xbox, PlayStation, and switch, if it shows up at all.
Also, steamOS is not exactly a desktop operating system right out of the gate, is entirely gaming focused. Yeah, you can use it for those things, but that's not the focus of the device/OS.
I'm not sure Grandma and Grandpa would want a steam machine as a replacement for their aging Windows 7 home computer.
I'm not sure Grandma and Grandpa would want a steam machine as a replacement for their aging Windows 7 home computer.
Fair. But for my gram, it would have been a slam dunk day one buy. She loved her playstation and only tolerated her PC. She would have called a Steam Machine "my game console that can check email" and would have adored it.
why not?? best buy sells steam decks and the ROG ally.... costco sells garbage pre-builts, there is no reason the gabecube shouldn't find retail shelf space, especially since xbox seems intent on exiting the console market.
the fact that it's a linux box is only appealing to nerds, how may ppl actually ran linux on the ps3?? hint: a lot less people than were upset when sony took it away lol. gabecube being a pc is a bonus feature, will it be a big enough bonus feature to drive sales like bundling your fist dvd or bluray player?? probably not.... but it will be enough to maybe sway a few people sitting on the fence?? maybe!
So honest question, what is everyone's hopes with the increase in Linux desktop use?
Like when I think about it the only thing I really care about is that I have decent hardware/driver support and holdouts for anti-cheat give up on requiring other operating systems (mostly so that my wife and eldest child stop complaining that I can't play Fortnite with them) as well as other random stuff that flat-out blocks use with Linux and requires either extra configuration or to keep a spare computer around with Windows.
Basically I hope that Linux can be where MacOS was about a decade ago, a second platform that vendors are aware of and will put in some amount of effort in to support (and will be clear about limitations/lack of support otherwise) and it won't be as weird to employers or schools if you have a preference for the platform
And I can buy this configuration off of a shelf at best buy?
While that is a good point (and an xkcd I didn't know), the stats say Linux also had the largest absolute growth, so it's not quite as misleading as you make it out to be
Yeah, I wish they'd made the second graph show percentage point difference instead of percentage growth.
Now that Linux is mainstream where do we move to feel elitist? DragonFly BSD? Redox OS?
SerenityOS is "a love letter to '90s user interfaces with a custom Unix-like core".
It's good enough to be proud of, while alienating normal people, not incidentally, like linux used to, but on purpose, like this sentence does, making it a great for elitists.
Perfect. Installing now.
Next year will be SerenityOS desktop year!
I thought it was not recommended to run on bare metal? There are some other obscure OSes that can run fine on bare metal (although Serenity is not really obscure in the foss space, only in the mainstream)
Hmm I cannot find some community discussions about this on distrowatch but this looks surely awesome! I always wanted to go back to my childhoods computing interface -- oh god I need that
But what type of kernel is this the new talk about "custom unix-like core"? So this is not linux, it is also not unix? Seems like it would bring me back the same fun of exploring some unknown os, like when I was 7 years old.
One could alternatively run GNU hurd, then you also get Debian but also cachè
The real elites shall forever be the Plan9 group. There's dozens of users! Dozens!
We just start the distro wars.
Thank you to all the linux gooners bumping these numbers up
Its going to end up 1-2 freak self hoster's torrenting terrabytes of movies for the jellyfin servers instead of just streaming their porn, and thats why linux gets a marketshare.
/s
I wonder if the numbers would be higher if there wasn't so much crossover between Linux users and unwillingness to pay for stuff that can be gotten for free
Frustrating that you can't even get to the pornhub press pages and look at the year in review without hopping on VPN if you're in a restricted area. I feel like Cherie Deville with her PSA on the block page might technically be the most viewed model on there now.
Would love to see what kind of porn Linux users watch compared to others.
Polyamorous in public. It's open and anyone can contribute.
Anime? Manga? Tentacle?
Whatever type it's probably esoteric and somehow involves the command line.
what else is there ? porn with a GUI ??
Whatever kink, but with consent not sudo.
ChromeOS always disturbs me. Is there a 2.4% out there casually watching porn on side with their chromebooks during highschool geometry?
And why they switching to linux?
Surely there are people who bought Chromebooks for college? Or boomers who bought the $245 Chromebook instead of the $285 Win10S manufactured ewaste laptop?
Also probably some folks who bought a Chromebook in bulk from a school for pennies on the dollar.
I snagged a Chromebook back in 2016 and used it for 9 years. It wasn't speedy, but for small time browsing, terminal use (I rooted it and put a real Linux distro in there), and media watching it was just fine.
chromebooks during highschool geometry
Nah, most of the school equipment/networks are monitored/blocked to hell and back. I'm not saying they can't find loopholes, but they're severely hampered, and when they get caught, it's a big deal.
A lot of that chromeOS is people buying the cheapest hardware at Walmart and using it as their faptop.
Just like a lot of the Linux is probably steamdecks.
Hey. It's been a lonely year. Don't shame me, bro.
I love when they give us this hard data. You can take this proof and shove it down hater's throats and perhaps even in other parts of their body.
Genuine curiosity from someone not deeply familiar with the details - what sort of operating systems fall under "Other" for desktops?
Pretty much everything other than TempleOS. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Haiku OS, Redox OS, Sculpt OS etc.
Imagine TempleOS for PH :) I'm not saying I don't think it happens ... but the irony.
Well, technically it's not possible since OS doesn't have network connection. At least unless someone learns C† and implements network connection into it. If Terry said it would be complicated, it's probably a hard task. :)
Here's an option :)
So if anyone does manage to hack TempleOS to have an internet connection, they probably earn the right to wank freely without losing the right to go to heaven right?
BSD, Haiku and pretty much anything that hides or manipulates the user agent string.
The Philippines has been a lot in the news lately, did not expect them to be an inspiration for the Linux world as well.




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