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[+] 96 points 11 months ago (16 children)
  • [–] [S] 90 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (15 children)

    Freud was a fan, and he basically invented therapy

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  • [–] 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (12 children)
  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Someone told me it was his mother's fault

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago

    He did shake things up with a lot of new ideas. I'd like to think that proving him wrong has gotten us to a better place; it's the fin de siecle version of being wrong on the internet, everyone writes to correct you. Kind of sucks for everyone that got the bad advice in the meantime, tho.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Freud was a pioneer with no technology to help him.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    That is true, but that still doesn't make any of his advice correct.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not a medical historian, but he must have been of some use, otherwise we'd have never heard of him.

    Just because a lot of his work has been supplanted doesn't mean he should be condemned

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    It's not about condemming him.

    What he did was basically kick off the whole genre of research. And for that he is still credited and well-known.

    But it seems you missed the context of this thread. It started with someone sarcastically joking that cocaine is "famously good for your health", to which someone sarcastically mock-backed the claim by referencing that Freud did back cocaine.

    There's no need or point in defending this very debunked claim.

    Btw, Freud recommended cocaine as a medication against alcoholism. He administered cocaine to an alcoholic friend of his, and it did nothing against his alcoholism. In fact, the friend died soon after off a combined alcohol-cocaine overdose. This did not stop Freud from claiming that cocaine is great. He even got his girlfriend hooked on it.

    Freud did start the whole field of research, but his own research has been debunked a very long time ago. There's basically nothing of his research left that still counts as "state of the art", but sadly many uneducated people still repeat his nonsense.

    It's kinda like believing that Carl Benz' earliest car patents still have any relevance in modern car design. We credit Carl Benz for kickstarting the research in combustion engine cars, but nobody would be stupid enough to think that early research in that field has any relevance to today's practice.

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    Best I can do is some mushrooms (possibly magic) and a washing machine on spin.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (6 children)
  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Over here, they sell all sorts of "standard" sex toys, like vibrators, in drugstores. Out in the open, right next to the condoms and lube. #justeuropethings

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  • [–] 41 points 11 months ago

    Ah yes, “hysteria”…

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    That does sound a lot better than therapy. Why don't we do that anymore? Cocaine and jerking off are still S tier relievers.

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  • [–] 49 points 11 months ago (19 children)

    Umm, I've never jerked off a woman, but okay..

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  • [–] 111 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    you uh.. . .

    you looking to change that?

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    What would be the better word?

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Manual stimulation was the term I believe.

    And one doctor got so tired of it that he invented the vibrator.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Same sex marriage solves this problem.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    don't you mean "Good friends and roommates"?

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I don't believe that pic, no gay man would allow that monobrow.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I mean... You can still have that kind of fun, it's just not called a doctor anymore.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I would also never do therapy. :) But I also wouldnt do drugs.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    It's really sad but also kinda fascinating that there are definitely people who could read this and believe it's evidence of the downfall of modern society caused by equal rights, instead of realizing that this bitch was just understandably tired and making a humor joke in an attempt to lighten the burden of having to face another day trying to roll the boulder back up the bullshit mountain created by the people who want to take away her (and everyone else's) rights, dismantle society, and cause it to collapse.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Even stranger that the title says "women".

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    Fun fact, vibrators were invented as a 'medical' tool to aid women.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Same thing as chainsaws. Go ahead, Google why the chainsaw was invented

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    From The Columbus Dispatch:

    Chainsaws were originally invented by Scottish doctors John Aitken and James Jeffray in the last 18th century for medical purposes, specifically to assist in a surgical procedure called symphysiotomy^1^ during childbirth. This early version of the chainsaw was a hand-cranked device used to remove ossified^2^ tissue. Over time, the chainsaw evolved into a powerful tool used for lodging.

    1: symphysiotomy, symphysiotomy is a surgical procedure that involves dividing the cartilage of the pubic symphys to widen the pelvis, facilitating childbirth when there is difficulty due to a narrow pelvis. This operation is also called pyelotomy and is performed to allow passage of a baby during obstructed labor. 2 ossified, having turned into bone or bony tissue

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    And then you die at the ripe old age of 35 from a cut on your hand

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    I wonder how many of my health issues are because of injuries being left untreated (professionally).

    like I tore my leg open on gravel last summer, nice big patch completely gone down below the hair follicles. just cleaned it out when I got home a couple hours later and kept flushing it multiple times a day and putting antibiotic cream on it, for a few weeks until it eventually healed over. took forever because of how deep and large it was, also I guess I'm just older and heal slower now. it definitely was at least a little bit infected for the week or two. it healed itself though

    but, like, I've done that all my life. how fucked up is my body because of that. good thing was I got my overdue tetnis shot a few months earlier when I did go to emerge for something else that wouldn't stop bleeding

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    Correction: This woman

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Me too, thanks

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    You gotta be careful, because if you don't go far back enough, you'll end up lobotomized in some kind of haunted house. Go too far back and, especially as a woman, you'll be labeled "hysterical" or worse then exiled or killed. You gotta find that sweet spot when you could walk into Wild West CVS and take home a bottle Morphinecocainemeth to help wash down the Bovril.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    They're exactly looking to be treated for hysteria.

    While the word know just means frantic and sort of crazed and can be applied to anyone, it's originally about having a womb. From the greek word for a womb.

    You're obviously right that them getting sent to an asylum or getting their brain poked through their eye (although lobotomy wouldn't be invented for like 30-40 years from their date) would be horrible.

    But she's also right that they did indeed used to "jerk off" female patients as a treatment for hysteria. Then the doctors got lazy about rubbing and fingering women until climax, so they invented the vibrator. I may be taking a few liberties with the story so Google it yourself to verify the historicity.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    I really wonder about what people thought of that then. Did people really think it was a medical thing, or was this just a socialy respectable way for a man who couldn't get his wife off to pass the task on to someone who could perform the task with an air of medical respectability?

    Or Hell, maybe it was a 19th century kink or swinger thing. People have always been freaky. At times in history they just had to hide it better.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I actually googled it a bit, and idk when "hysteria" widened to include men as well, but the very first inventor of a vibrator for medical purposes said he wouldn't use his "percuteur" for women as that would not be fitting. But he was a religious man afaik.

    There were all sorts of galvanic stimulators and whatnot so I don't think they were all as prudes as we might think.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    So would I.

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