I like this button layout. If one of the face buttons is gonna be used more than all the others, why shouldn't it be bigger?

The gamecube controller is how I memorized the x- and y-axis of the coordinate system.

Man, when this shit hit the streets I thought there was no way this controller wouldn't suck, but turned out to be a great layout.

It would be weird to have buttons changing position to face north all the time

How about 12, 3, 6 and 9?

In my middleware, it's like that, with the optional Btn_V and Btn_VI for reasons.

Retvrn 2 Tradition

I loved that controller as a kid.

It was too good for this world.

Another option, if you want to be able to describe them with words instead of pictures, it naming them after the cardinal directions.

I still need to physically move my a to b and x to y on my steam deck, it triggers me

Until you go to your inventory in TOTK and it says “press Y to sort items” and I always press X instead cuz 2 decades of Xbox Controllers.

They wouldn't, they use the Xbox layout as that is definitely the most prevalent layout for PCs

As someone who grew up with N64, then GameCube, then XBOX 360, thankfully I've never had this issue with XBOX controllers. (The N64 had six face buttons and the GameCube put the A button directly in the center.) So when I switched to PC after the 360, the transition was natural.

Which is why the Switch controller always fucks me up, and is one of the reasons why I prefer to play Switch games in an emulator, even though I have the actual console: because I can fix the button layout. (The other reasons being 4K, 120FPS, and mod support. Basically what the OLED Switch should have been from the get go—but isn't—so I have to resort to emulaton.)

OMFG BANNED

^j/k^

As someone who learned on that, it is worse (having to switch one way or the other).

No it’s swapped in the rest of the world PlayStation was released first in Japan. So O for confirm is the OG layout. It makes sense in Japan since in Japanese writing you write down a Circle for Yes, OK or Good or an X for No or Bad.

Yup, functionally the cross is more like an A, and the PlayStation layout is effectively the same as the Xbox one in actual practice.

Which is incorrect in the first place. Circle was supposed to be the accept/enter button originally.

Tell that to my brain's pattern recognition reflexes...

lol not at all. Your gap of skipping N64 and GameCube misses the inconsistencies perfectly. Have a look at images of the N64 and GameCube controllers. 😄

The Switch is the console that went back to the roots of the SNES.

I remember the PlayStation doing that since the PS2. I had like 30 or so games which had X for accept and O for back. But then I played a remastered Uncharted on my PS4 and was utterly confused to see triangle for back.

especially with yes and no buttons (a/b) being reversed compared to nintendo switch

It's also reversed on Playstation. Games use "X" for "yes" and "O" for "cancel". But only in the west, it's reversed in Japan.

Yeah, I was pretty sure it's a patent, copyright, or trademark thing.

The PlayStation one makes sense to me too but that's probably cause I grew up with a PS2. Now the switch on the other hand, that scheme is a fucking abomination. I actually use a remapped Xbox controller when I play mine.

which parts of Xbox/PlayStation controller layouts don't match? aren't functions the same, just symbols different?

I have, and always will, maintain that the Xbox controller is trash and PlayStation is clearly superior. never have I used an Xbox controller and thought "yeah this sensitivity curve of nothingnothingnothingEVERYTHING" makes sense

I keep having to say "Big X" and "Little X".

To be fair, they used that setup first. And PS originally copied it, but for some reason switched the functions of X and O in the West. In Japan, those symbols O often used for agree/correct/confirm and vice versa for X. It is weird that X became confirm here .

No they didn’t - it’s the same sequence.

A = circle (1 line )

B = cross (2 lines)

X = triangle (3 lines)

Y = square (4 lines)

Xbox broke with convention.

American-made PlayStation games were using X for confirm and O for cancel long before the Xbox came out. It's probably partially because X is blue and O is red; we don't have cultural context for the symbols, but we do have cultural context for the colors.

Nah. Xbox came out years after the PlayStation. The reason the usage of the ps controller got switched in NA is because they did some studies and people just tried to use ps X-button as the accept button.

Xbox is an abomination amalgamation of everything that came before it: Nintendo, PlayStation, and Sega. Look at those controllers, keeping in mind they came first, and it's painfully obvious what Microsoft was up to. They can't even come up with creative names. Hell, they even bought halo. And in an era of free online services, only Microsoft pushed everything into being paid and micro transactions. A LOT of the enshittification is Microsoft's fault.

Compare to N64, which came before xbox, and know that Microsoft could have made any design they wanted, but didn't.