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[+] 238 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Many people need to use computers and Windows for 8 hours a day, every working day + AI shoved into personal apps. I wouldn't expect even the world's best escort to be giving head continuously for 8+ hours a day, 5 days a week.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I am a system admin and decided to just use Windows Server on my desktop to avoid the bullshit Windows 11 changes

    Server has its own set of problems but at least the tools to deal with them are prepackaged

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why not use LTSC instead? It shouldn't include many of these changes it has done or will do. I know since windows 10 the separation between workstation and server has deepened and I believe app compatability is less due to it. I even remember a few apps I wanted to install on server wouldnt let me unless I buy a business license because it detected I was using server and assumed I was a business because of the OS.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I'm working in server all day anyway. Licences are not a issue with most desktop software that we use. We have almost unlimited access to the Microsoft catalog with a combination of our subscriptions. As a system administrator doing what I do, it's not much different from ltsc except I have to use a couple of local group policies so I'm not badgered by system prompts

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  • [–] 133 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    At this point I can only assume that Microsoft is actively trying to punish me for using their products.

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  • [–] 34 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

    Ever since Windows 8, Microsoft has shown to be a sadist.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Windows ME has some shit to say.... Then Windows 8 will be next to have a chat.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Windows ME wasn't a sadist. It would have to actually work to get that far. The best thing that happened to a laptop I had which came with ME installed was to put Win98 on it. Ran great after that.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Linux Mint Cinnamon is incredible, free to try/move to, and reversible.

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  • [–] 105 points 11 months ago (25 children)

    Why? Who's asking for this stuff, is there somebody out there who is really pleased with this news or is Microsoft really just that out of touch.

    I don't want to have to start wearing rainbow knee-length socks, but Microsoft are pushing me towards it.

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  • [–] 94 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Consumers are not the main driver of profit, speculative value is. Microsoft knows that Windows is guaranteed to be on the majority of PC's, which means they can afford to implement hostile features that increase the speculative value on data collection and AI investment.

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Once you realize this, you also realize that there's no going back for them either. If by some slim chance there's enough resistance for them to pause or rollback some features, it's only temporary. The overall course remains clear and they will continue to move in that direction regardless.

    There disdain for you as a consumer could not be made any clearer.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Their, as in the disdain microsoft has for the user, not there, as in microsoft put the disdain in a box and it's sitting across the room over there. However, your point is valid and stands.

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think MS is out of touch with what the customer wants, I think they just stopped listening.

    The fact is nobody is asking for this stuff.

    I think the hope is that they build it anyway and then people will use/want it. AI is the big buzzword of the decade, just like 'cloud' was the big buzzword of last decade.

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  • [+] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    A nice thought.
    Unfortunately the only ones who switch will be people 1. Know that it is even possible to switch/that they have an option to switch, and 2. Have the technical knowledge to back up their data, then download and install Linux, that 3. Don't have to run Windows for other reasons and/or haven't already switched.

    Unfortunately with all three qualifiers you aren't left with a giant number. Certainly no mass exodus.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    In theory, I could use an AI for doing stuff. For example, opening ripped videos, finding the timestamp where the episode name is given, and then copying that into the video's filename. Afterwards, it can open Handbrake, use my preferred settings for audio and subs, then start the conversion of multiple files.

    However, this is all predicated on the AI not doing unwanted things - such as giving Microsoft my personal information, preferences in hentai, and passwords.

    Someday I will use agentic AI, but it will be on my terms.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I'm not sure what's worse, the greybeard stereotype or the socks.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    Oh, the greybeard stereotype, for sure. Carrying the weight required for the 'classic RMS' look isn't good for your health. Cute twinks in knee-high socks carrying a blahaj are much better, everyone loves them.

    Now, the fully-actuated fursuit for if you want to be taken seriously as a sysadmin? That's an expensive hobby.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

    wdym worse? the socks aren't bad

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Just a bit misgendery for my tastes. Also some right wing people have glommed onto the whole femboy thing. There is 100% a femboy-fascist pipeline.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Not heard of any femboy-fascist pipeline

    I'd assume that fascists would hate femboys for being unmanly men

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    The socks have a bit of a learning curve, depending on what you want to do with them, but it's worth it. It's such a huge relief to not care how much more Windows is getting enshittified this week, since it's not my problem anymore.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I work in IT for businesses and the number of times I've had to debunk AI slop hallucinations as actual troubleshooting information is not zero.

    "Yes, I can see the instructions say to check that checkbox, however, that checkbox does not exist" (screenshot of relevant control panel).

    This is just evidence, to me, that business types are already relying on AI instead of doing any actual thought or research on any topic they don't already have a deep understanding of, or are too lazy to bother with.

    Consumers are not driving this change.

    The worst part is that it's an echo chamber of yes-men that seem to be pushing for it. The AI enthusiasts trying to sell their crap, convincing the middle managers that they need their AI crap, and them buying it and asking for more/better AI crap, and the cycle continues. At no point does any of the output of any AI system provide any unique insight, or value, to anyone. The rest of us are being dragged along for the ride, regardless of what we want.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    The tech industry puts bazillions of dollars into AI development and now it has to put AI literally everywhere to make it look somehow useful. Whether the customer / user wants this or not. I guess they are hoping that people will eventually like it.

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    How long before you can’t turn this off or uninstall it, just like Edge, or Bitlocker, or TPM, or mandatory Microsoft accounts?

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  • [–] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

    My mom is a retired nursing instructor, I've picked up a few things over the years. This is going to be fun when a HIPA violation occurs via MS A.I.

    Honestly any industry where you see confidential information or proprietary information, could pose a massive threat to customers. Just knowing how much of a product your competitors are shipping to a location can tell you a lot of what they are planning.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I guarantee you they will solve it by lobbying to get rid of HIPA

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Nah, why get rid of it if you can get exclusions for just AI, like they are doing for other stuff like copyright.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    At some point, all that juicy sweet medical data will be worth the 8 figure bribe to several congressmen to allow thebsale of access to the data for 'research' use to amazon and google.

    All that data is private, until it isnt.

    Dont be so innocent to think that hipaa data will never be sold, it will be eventually

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I work in healthcare (maintenance) and our computer system is so fucking locked down, I'm sure CoPilot will have some similar way of being shackled. I was surprised to learn that the terminal isn't locked, until I fooled around some and realized that every possible command was individually blocked.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    I work IT at a university that does medical research, and the doctors and their assistants are by FAR the biggest security pit among all the demographics: staff, students, various faculties. You could tell them you were official password inspector and flash an ID written in crayon on a used napkin and they'd just "yeah whatever, here you go, stop bothering me".

    They'd get chewed into paste by their directors after the inevitable happened and their compatriots would learn NOTHING.

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago

    Windows is the security risk

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    As if recall wasn't bad enough.

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    [–] 60 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    "I see you are dual booting with Linux? I've reformatted that partition for you."

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    I had this happen before but not in recent times. Not sure if others have experienced the same.

    For a while I had my bootloader on a single drive but I now have my Linux bootloader on /dev/sda and my windows on /dev/sdb and toggle it in the bios when I need to use Windows. I haven't had Windows overwrite anything in a long time. Could be a coincidence though.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    I've read that dual booting Windows and Linux can have temperamental quirks and I've had my share of them.

    Now, if I'm doing that, Windows fs gets isolated and I refuse to even connect it to the internet. But, outside of a legacy automotive shop program meant for XP, I've not needed Windows for a couple years.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    It’s mostly an issue when you have them sharing boot drives via partitions. If you keep them isolated to their own separate drives, Windows doesn’t tend to muck with things. It’s because Windows is bad about killing bootloaders, and automatically setting itself as the default in the boot order. So if you have it sharing a drive, it’ll nuke your boot. But if you don’t have them sharing a drive, and boot via a loader on the Linux drive, there is no boot loader on the Windows drive to nuke.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    One of the reasons why I never dual boot. Unfucking GRUB is not on my priority lists.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Only dualboot with windows on a separate drive, that hasn't given me any issues in the past 5 years or so

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Just make sure to unplug all non-Windows drives when installing Windows. Otherwise it can do weird things like making unilateral decisions on which exact drive it shoves its bootloader on. I've wiped my Linux drive when changing to another distro aaaaand the Windows bootloader was gone too. It really shouldn't have been.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Yeah whenever I set up a computer with dual boot it's always Windows first, then Linux. Windows assumes it's the only OS that exists so if there's something else there it just ignores it and writes over the boot thingy. Linux actually bothers to look for anything else that's installed and works around it.

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  • [–] 57 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    The LLMs demand more data, so MS is providing it by scraping our personal hard drives. Well, not mine, but still most peoples.

    I still have Win10 running on an air-gapped laptop because there are no Linux drivers for my cheap auto-feed scanner, which I'm using to scan a raft of old photos. Once that project is done, I'll put Linux Mint on it, and use it for something fun.

    Gimp, Inkscape, Blender, Steam, LibreOffice, Obsidian, and Jellyfin do everything I want from a desktop.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    What's the difference between big software companies and drug cartels? No, this is not the opening line of a joke.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago

    Important to note here that if you are running Windows or a dual-boot, the new version of O&O ShutUp has a utility that allows you to delete CoPilot.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    How long until we can trick the Ai into deleting the System32 folder?

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago

    It's kind of amazing how much they're willing to tear down in hopes of this "" incredible "" AI vision

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    lol

    they just keep piling on justifications for switching away

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    There’s not a day that goes by that i don’t think about it. In fact i might just install a dual boot today and get reacquainted with a Linux distro. See if it runs the software I need…

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    I never bought Windows 11 for AI shit. It wasn't even what came with 11 originally. Hey Microsoft, why not make a version of Windows 11 with all the AI stuff fully turned on and call it Windows 11-AI. You sell it separately and up charge as much as you want. Just reset 11 to no AI and have it be the bare bones 11.

    Edit: 2 things too. Violating user privacy could carry a risk as far as attorney-client privledge goes because attorneys work on 11 from home. So just ransaking all data could cause that right to be waved. Subpoena much?

    Also, the AI-Windows could be upsold as a luxury, which means you can charge more for AI-11.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago

    Because they make so much more $ from selling your data. Microsoft would rather push these AI programs in an update, and bank on their users not noticing. The majority of users operate in a walled garden, they aren't editing registry files or manually running commands, so they are less likely to notice the changes. It's the power users that notice this shit, and sound the alarm.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Also, the AI-Windows could be upsold as a luxury, which means you can charge more for AI-11.

    ... If people were willing to pay for it, which is a tiny percentage of the small percentage of people that want AI on their windows. Even the people that are all in on chatgpt will very rarely accept paying a cent for it (and it must be a bargain considering that openAI said a few months ago that the average premium plan is a net loss for them due to the server costs)

    The way things have been going it's more likely that the AI-free version will be the upsold luxury

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago

    Time to regulate the shit out of them. They don't know what consent is, they flaunt the abuse of privacy laws.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (1 child)
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    Scammers won’t need to social engineer grandma into giving out her SSN, they can just ask her AI many times and eventually, it will spit out absolutely everything.

    Interesting Defcon presentation about how AI is a security nightmare:

    DEF CON 33 - Exploiting Shadow Data from AI Models and Embeddings - Patrick Walsh

    https://youtu.be/O7BI4jfEFwA

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    Never. Ever. EVER. INSTALLING. ELEVEN.

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