“He did it. He threw the sandwich.”

That’s how the defense counsel for Sean Dunn, the man who threw a sub-style sandwich at a Border Patrol officer in Washington, DC, this summer began the federal trial against him Tuesday morning.

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[–] 251 points 1 year ago (27 children)

I cannot believe we're wasting taxpayer dollars on a ballistic hoagie attack.

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  • [–] 171 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'm sure we all know the phrase that a prosecutor could get a grand jury to "indict a ham sandwich". It took prosecutors THREE Grand Juries to finally get an indictment for someone throwing that sandwich.

    It's all a complete waste of time and taxpayer funds, and in any other point in history these prosecutors would have been fired immediately for incompetence at even considering an indictment in the first place, not even considering the possibility that they would try for three attempts.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They never got the indictment. The prosecutor had to downgrade the charges from a felony to a misdemeanor, which doesn’t have to go before a grand jury.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    if a grand jury won't indict, doesn't double jeopardy apply? not a lawyer, just haven't dealt with this part of the process before

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    A grand jury is a sort of sanity check on a charge, and does not count towards the trial. It is basically "with these facts (provided only by the prosecution), is there enough probable cause to move a case to trial?". Double jeopardy in the 5th amendment has specific protections from going to trial multiple times or from getting multiple punishments for a crime.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Actually, it's even stupider than that I'm pretty sure, two grand juries refused to give them an indictment for a felony charge, so they brought a way less severe misdemeanor charge because you don't have to get a grand jury to sign off on those, and that's what we're wasting this time on

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  • [–] 81 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    "ballistic submarine missile" was right there

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Haha being gay is bad amirite

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Hi, wanted to ask how you want me to handle this report? https://i.ibb.co/rGRqTJTt/1.png

    You reported me, on my own instance, to myself... guess I'm not sure what you want me to do here? Do you think "hostility" is a violation of my instance's sidebar rules? If not, can you tell me which of my own rules I've broken? I'm eager to hear your response. :)

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    I hope a news outlet has the boldness to run this story after one showing DHS brutality, including the taxpayer costs, and before one about SNAP, healthcare and the shutdown. This administration is well past the point of pissing on Americans while telling them it's raining.

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  • [–] 182 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I hope the people around him never let him live a minute without being reminded about what a weak little boy he is for whining about taking a soft, succulent sub to the shoulder.

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  • [–] 124 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Navy should give him a medal for surviving the first sub attack on US soil.

    The Cunt for Red October.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There were 3 submarine attacks on the US in 1942.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago

    The injury was to the ego and authority - of the entire apparatus, not one man. They're all anxious to bring retribution and remind everyone that the enforcer class is above them and demands your cowering deference.

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  • [–] 85 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I hope the jury are all served sub sandwiches for lunch each day of this trail.

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago

    As neither party disputes the basic facts of the case, jurors will need to determine whether the sandwich-throwing is enough to convict Dunn on the misdemeanor assault charge.

    Even if it is, this is a job for jury nullification.

    A DC jury recently acquitted a different resident who was also charged with assault for allegedly moving her knee up toward an officer while being restrained after filming officers as they made immigration-related arrests.

    I see that sense is, ever so slowly, being restored.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That sandwich did not explode. It flopped limply against his chest just as you would expect a sub from Subway to do.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    People are all ACAB but when you hear about the horrors these cops have to face, it makes you think. Could you handle the smell of onions and mustard? Would it make you hungry? What if there were no donuts in the area?

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    New ICE patches: "Don't bread on me"

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Video clearly shows that the sandwich was fully wrapped. Why do they need to lie?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Because conservatives are fucking snowflakes.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    US catches up - abot 10 years ago, a riot cop in Russia became a victim of an empty paper cup throwing. It was qualified as assault, btw.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    /c/yestheonion

    Or at least AN onion

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "The bun was a bit dry and that was more than I could take!", said the frightened man in army gear.

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    Poor little pissy pants, must be so hard to be a traitor when you smell like onions and mustard.

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  • [+] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No. Remember that they could not get this through a grand jury. The Grand Juries are practicing Nullification for these incidents because the public is sick of Trump and ICE. They had to go with a lesser charge for it ... and this one stupid case will likely end this prosecutors career.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
    
    ~~~~The fact they got a case at all says that people were still willing to allow a case.~~~~
    
    Edit: I was wrong, apparently they dropped it down to a misdemeanor so they didn't need to get it past a grand jury.
    
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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yes, a "no true bill" is where a grand jury does not have the 12 votes needed and is rare. It is said a grand jury could indict a ham sandwich. I do not know if this was a ham sandwich thrown, but there have been 8 "no true bill" votes in DC during Trumps shenanigans.

    That is saying something.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Waste of a sandwich

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A lot of us dream of using a submarine to attack our enemies. This isn't exactly what I meant.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It was a run-by sandwiching by a fleet-footed foot-long fling-er.

    To be fair, the sandwich was loaded.

    Lettuce, tomato, pickle, cheese, cucumber, onion, spinach, mushrooms, olives, bell peppers…

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Obviously the border patrol bootlicker isn't accounting for his own scent which smells like pigshit.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    McPTSD

    PTSBLT

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    it smelt like freedom

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    There was a similar case in Russia in 2019 when a guy threw an empty paper cup in a direction of a police line at a protest, and got arrested and was tried for it. Ultimately he was set free, 2019 was very nice time for Russia, comparatively. Will see how American justice system compares.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    meanwhile, there's another, actually important trial happening that is describing horrific conditions of ice detention.

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  • [–] [S] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'd argue 1st Amendment rights and the weaponization of the legal system are also important.

    Are you talking about this trial right?

    Judge calls alleged conditions at Chicago-area immigration site ‘disgusting’

    We need to stay aware of how this and similar trials unfold around the country.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    that's totally fair. i suppose i meant that this trial should not need to exist because the sandwich debacle should not be any different than someone yelling at them--a simple non violent protest.

    and yes, that's the other trial I'm referring to.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    This failed as an assault at the grand jury level, so they had to bring out a weak ass lesser charge.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Well, it was assault. Hilarious assault is still assault. As the victim, I'd be too humiliated to press charges.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If there's no harm there's no assault.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    We're both wrong. "Battery" is the what the charge should be. Any unwanted and "violent" touching is battery (jurisdictions vary wildly of course). "Assault" is me telling you I'm going to beat your ass. Can't believe I mixed those up. 🙄

    In any case, the notion of harm is a factor, but no harm has to occur to be charged. SOURCE: Spent the weekend in jail for admitting to pushing my wife. Battery. Got off, but still, had to spend 2-days with a bunch of animals.

    Never speak to the cops!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Won’t you think of the laundry bill damnit!!

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