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[–] 66 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

What a coincidence - I just finished the Manhunt: Unabomber TV series. It’s well made, reminded me of Mindhunter. And very sympathetic towards Ted Kaczynski actually. Highly recommend it if you haven’t seen it.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I am staunchly against randomly murdering people with package bombs. But they put that poor man through hell with the MK Ultra stuff.

    The big monsters that run our world turned a brilliant mind into a little monster. A massive tragedy from every angle

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do you know what they actually did with Ted in MKULTRA? It wasn't drugs in his case.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He was the isolation subject, no? Pretty much made the guy a patsy to get him socially exiled from his college campus while they ran him through the program?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    No they set him up with a prosecutor out of Boston that Ted thought was another student. The prosecutor's job was to argue against any position that kaczynski took... Completely undermining his internal Tom Tom

    Debating

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sounds interesting, where did you watch it?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Ah sorry for the tease lol it was free on Prime yesterday but the deadline JUST passed. Had to binge watch it quick over the last 2 days. But I’ve seen it before on Netflix too, so I’m sure it’ll get rotated to another platform at some point.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    That’s going to be me and my peeve regarding the malapropism “assless chaps”.

    Chaps with asses are PANTS!

    (Turns back to manual typewriter and resumes typing furiously.)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    To me when someone says assless chaps it refers to the configuration of wearing chaps without anything underneath. Similar to "going commando" being a configuration of clothing meaning pants with no underwear.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Indeed, chaps by definition have no ass.

    They’re assless pants, really.

    Tangentially, I hate it that pulling someone’s pants down became popular and was called “pantsing.” You’re not putting pants ON the person…

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My (completely un-researched, straight from my ass) hypothesis is that the term comes from British English and not American English. In the UK "pants" are your underwear, so "pansting" somebody is exposing their underwear.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I hate it that pulling someone’s pants down became popular and was called “pantsing.” You’re not putting pants ON the person…

    Do you feel similarly about shelling peanuts?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Oh excellent point, I hadn’t thought about it.

    I think it’s different for parts of living things.

    Shelling is removing the entire shell. “Peeling” something doesn’t mean adding peel, and “pitting” means removing the pit.

    However, for bodies, removing skin in general is “skinning,” but if you lose the skin of just your hand it’s called de-gloving. Removing the bowels isn’t called “boweling,” but “disembowling.”

    If I said someone did a “shirting,” maybe I’m weird but I’d think of getting hit with a shirt before removing someone’s shirt. And in hockey, a “jerseying” is more about pulling the jersey over the head than removing it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Removing the bowels isn’t called “boweling,” but “disembowling.”

    But the synonymous process of removing the guts is called gutting.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Should it be de-pantsing, or disempantsing, then? I think it'd be the former, but I want it to be the latter

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I think most people would say “de-pants” but I agree with you that it SHOULD be disempantsing.

    Though I’m worried the “em” implies the pants are being extracted.

    “Dis-pantsing” is also really good though. Then when it happens people can be like “Jimmy got a dis-pants-ation”

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    There was a reverse of that scenario in our neck of the wood where the murderer phoned the cops with details only he would know (from a payphone close to where he worked), and although his voice was recognized by a relative, his (somewhat successful) defence was that he never pronounced "creek" as "crick."

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    The phrase makes no sense to me at first glance because if I say "I'm going to have some cake" what I mean is I am going to eat it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Weirdo. The rest of us mean that we are going to posses some amount of cake for a period of time.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Don't speak on my behalf. That's not what I mean when I say I'm having some food. "Yes waiter I'll have the steak. Not for eating. Just for possessing ike a psychopath."

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  • that brother is a fucking snitch

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Apparently I never understood this saying until today.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I still don't think I fully understand, even as the unabomber put it. Can't eat it and have it? Like, I can't consume and expect the thing to remain, that it?

    Side note: only in English, one can "understand", but nobody can "overstand" and anybody that "stand" is doing a wholly different thing.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Pretty sure his brothers wife played a big part.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago* (21 children)

    Is it really pedantry if the phrase makes no sense with the incorrect order

    Its like "I could care less" - so you do care? Start making sense and I'll understand you. Words have meaning god damn it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    It’s not like that at all. “I could care less” is just wrong. The phrase is “I couldn’t care less.” “I could care less” is more like “one and the same” or “for all intensive purposes.”

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If a phrase conveys the opposite of their literal meaning, and the speaker and the audience both know it, then it is pedantic. Choosing to derail whatever the topic is in favor of criticizing someone's understandability when everyone did understand them is pedantic.

    I get it, I hate the way people use "literally". It's terrible, it's usually unneeded, and it just makes any actual correct use of literally have less impact. But I'm not gonna correct people who say it wrong, because I do know what they meant.

    If they said "I could care less" and you're comfortable enough in your understanding of the conversation to know for a fact they actually mean they do not care about it, then they did make sense and you did understand them.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    If they said "I could care less" and you're comfortable enough in your understanding of the conversation to know for a fact they actually mean they do not care about it

    And what if I am not comfortable enough in my understanding? When someone is hard to understand because of how non-standard their use of language is, it is a communication barrier, not just pedantry.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's a problem, because I'm never quite sure if they're saying they care a little bit, and are using the phrase literally, or don't care, and are a moron.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That's quite a problem. You tend to get those by dividing things into black and white like that. I've known quite a few smart people that just still don't care about English being imperfect, and I've met a few dumb ones that care greatly about details like word choice and ignore the conversation to focus on errors.

    Splitting the world between "people who do a thing you agree with" and "morons" is a choice, but its one I try to avoid as a rule.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm not sure what part doesn't make sense about the original

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    have your cake and eat it too

    Alone it sounds normal but doesnt make sense in context because its supposed to be

    eat your cake and have it too

    Because the idiom is supposed to mean that you can't eat it and somehow still have it. The first implies you got cake and then were unable to eat it which doesnt make sense because thats literally the point of cake

    Wikipedia:

    you cannot enjoy two incompatible things at the same time; once you eat the cake, you no longer have it. It highlights the idea of trade-offs or making choices in life.

    Apparently have is supposed to be synonymous with "keep" but language has evolved

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It can sound misleading but the second part doesn't actually mean the "having" at the first part has ended. It's not incorrect, it's just more confusing than the other way around.

    I wouldn't say the language has changed. You either have something or don't. If you eat your cake you don't have it anymore

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah if they cared enough to care less. Therefore they don't care enough to care less about something.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'd love to hear the Unabomber's takes on "taking a piss/shit."

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  • That's goddamn wild

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    LOL that's awesome.

    The statement has been around since the 1530s; it's probably due for some modernization.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Reminds me the advice "when commiting crime put a rock in your boots so people can't recognize you by your walking style."

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