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[–] 271 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Translation: "Once all the hub-bub dies down we intend to as slowly as you'll allow, slip in monetization."

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  • [–] 127 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Narrator: they monetised the site to death.

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    [–] 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Won't monetize it "to death", just right up to the line of death.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago

    Oh so they'll do it subtly enough to think people won't notice.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago

    „Trust me, bro, we won‘t enshitify, please don‘t leave and make something new elsewhere that’s out of our control.“

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The new owners are so trustworthy that they weren't even transparent about who they are. In the comments of the original announcement they defend that with:

    This post wasn’t about Chosen — it was about Robin and the legacy he built over 24 years. We’re the new owners and ultimate decision-makers at Nexus Mods. We’ll share more about ourselves when we’ve earned that right. For now, we’re focused on listening, learning, and making modding even easier, and yes, you’ll see us around in the community being active.

    I can't say I find that statement to be particularly trustworthy given it's coming from an NFT bro.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago

    If there was one god damned example of any company saying this and sticking to it I might believe them. But I have yet to be proven wrong. Sucks too as they were my go to for mods.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nexus is dead, Start making a new one.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    Maaaaaan. Fuck. I really like Nexus Mods. Get ready for another enshittifying ride to the bottom.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Promise in one hand, shit in the other, let me know which one fills up first.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Reminder that ModDB still exists, and works.

    EDIT:

    Seeing as this is fairly decently upvoted now:

    https://www.moddb.com/

    and also, I found this

    https://github.com/loicreynier/awesome-modding

    absolutely gigantic compendium of tons of mods, websites that have tons of mods for various games that are not nexusmods.

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    Sorry, I probably should have included that.

    I've been modding games and making mods for games since before Nexus or SteamWorkshop or anything even existed... I guess people just genuinely have never even heard of moddb these days, like how gamefaqs is an 'ancient relic' or w/e.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I had never heard of it! Thanks for sharing

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I also just found this:

    https://github.com/loicreynier/awesome-modding

    basically just a huge compendium of everywhere all kinds of mods for anything are hosted, that'll give you an idea of how the game modding scene is actually rather dispersed, not only monopolized by nexusmods.

    not sure if its in this huge list but:

    fpsbanana

    is another one i am quite familiar with, been going strong with mostly source mods... possibly since the late 90s, at the least the early 2000's.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    venture capital

    Aaaand it's gone.

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Mod hosting seems to be a great usecase for torrent. It only need a suitable frontend and we are golden.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Would a federated discovery frontend work? Peertube's back end of the service would probably work great as a starting point since it uses torrents to ease up on traffic for individual servers

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    @daniskarma just use magnet:// links, and optionally ZeroNet if you really require html site. Gnutella2, e2dk:// had network wide plain text search function.@mnemonicmonkeys unfortunately WebTorrent is not feasible due inability of web browsers to participate in current DHT network.Find freedom by abandoning https web. In real p2p there is no distinction between fronend or backend, all peer equal. @games

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    I think the new owners will fark NexusMods to death and you should start looking for a backup site to host your mods.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    They're definitely gonna monetize it to death.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is tragic. I have been on NexusMods since the 2000s. I learned how to mod games because of that site. I will be pouring one out for this landmark of a website after work today. Paid for Lifetime and everything, because the website made it easy to find, install, and update mods for any given game that supported mods. Damn, man. Damn.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Make it a legally binding contract, otherwise don't bother promising.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Ah, so basically Nexus Mods is dead to me now. Whenever venture capital is injected to anything, it's a bad sign. Ugh, great these particular Capitalists are from the crypto community...

    They've been souring a lot of potentially cool projects with blockchain/web3 nonsense, like Playtron, for example. Lutris is now dead in the water and hasn't been updated for months now; the former dev is working on Playtron. There is a huge issue log that doesn't seem to be addressed at the moment.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Currently downloading everything to MO2 and setting to not check for updates huehuehue

    People gonna see torrents for a "preset packages" of Skyrim mods

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    As an outsider to Bethesda modding, given how difficult it looks, I'm surprised to hear this isn't already a thing.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I found a couple recommendation lists to "make the game look good" because I dont need all the fancy extras like body mods and weapons and grouped them together in load order, because I knew at some stage I could just package them nicely into a ZIP if I need to uninstall Skyrim for some reason. Glad to see I was ahead of the game

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Modding community will never allow it, when Nexus allowed people to keep downloading old mods a bunch of authors decried it since they wanted the ability to remove a mod from the internet forever. It was 'theirs' (even though it's just modified Bethesda data)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    It really depends on how one is applyng mods. Bethesda does have their own mod site and in-game support for modding, and that's pretty straightforward (and the only option on consoles). That will limit what mods are available.

    I do kind of wish that there were one cross-platform open-source universal "game mod" program that could support multiple online services. Would like to have Wabbajack-like functionality (apply a whole set of curated, tested-together mods) as a base too, as that'd lower the bar.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    See all these free mods!? They're just for you to use however you want to!! Pretty awesome right. Just enjoy this .5mbs download. Oh you want faster download speeds? Well... Sir. That will be $12 a month. Evil laugh

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I miss FilePlanet. That's where I got my first Morrowind mods many years ago

    At least GameBanana still exists, though there aren't as many uploads there as Nexus. Still good that there's an alternative

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Obviously they will. Years down the road. 🤗

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I have a bridge to sell anyone who believes that.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Talk about putting part of your life's work completely out to pasture.

    I give it a year. What a shame.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Nexus Mods is far too late on the monetization aspect. The restrictions placed on mod downloading sucks, and it hard pushes buying a membership. Not to mention they basically gave up on vortex and its a buggy mess even if you run it native.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They gave up on vortex to make the nexus mods app. Which is pretty impressive so far. I would recommend reading the articles from the makers of it that discuss how they are making it and why. It's really interesting.

    I have been using the nexus mods app for cyberpunk and it's really slick and easy.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I wasn't aware there was a replacement that was suitable. I will have to look into that soley on the fact there seems to be a linux native release, thank you.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Yeah I have my worries in the sale of nexusmods.com. But everything i have read about the new app is really promising and the people working on it have worked on other major mod managers in the past as well. So they seem to know what they are doing. It's still in really early alpha so if you use it, make backups. Sometimes you have to completely uninstall and then reinstall to update which is annoying. But thats the cost of using alpha software.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So, just half to death then?

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    As a software engineer i always found nexus simply archaic. Hot take but the molding industry might be better off with a new mod index.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Here's how it goes with half the games I mod these days.

    1. Game not manageable in Vortex out of the box
    2. Find the extension that makes the game manageable
    3. All popular mods are based on one single mod that acts as a framework or SDK for those other mods
    4. That prerequisite mod isn't well maintained on Nexus, and the author recommends using $otherModManager to manage this game
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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Funny how all of that is straight up solved with any package manager or even git itself (with submodules) for free and yet gaming community is protecting some proprietary burning heap of garbage.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The main problem in your setup is you installed Vortex. It and its prior incarnation Nexus Mod Manager have always been a thorn in actual mod developers' sides. Mod devs can easily tell you where to extract the zip to, and what dependencies you need. Any load order manager type thing will always be better when designed specifically for the game you're running. Having an "easy one click GUI!!!" doesn't actually help anybody because modding different games isn't a universally systematic process.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It should all be open source.

    First thing is mods should just exist on free hosting providers for source code like GitHub/Lab etc.

    Then an optional mod manager software that can import mods from these sources.

    Non of this really needs a centralised community, these places already exist thanks to other better suited services like social media

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But social media is 95% turbocancer...

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean things like Discord and Revolt, even Reddit is better for communities to discuss things about mods than the Nexus site

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Thats what they all say when they get acquired. "Won't change our creative direction" type bs.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    sure buddy, unfortunately they done that already. I especially love the 3 mbps cap on downloads with free accounts.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Time to cancel the paid subscription for fast download i guess.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Maybe this is what it will finally take to get some of the bigger game communities off Nexus. It's a decade overdue.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    File a lawsuit. Paying customers are supposed to do that if they were given an explanation but in bad-faith language.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Hahaha yea right… give it 6-12 months and that will change

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ok, so what is the current alternative nice option for SkyrimSE mods?

    Preferably one with a mod manager/download client. Vortex is kind of janky but it did the job. I'd prefer not to manage any of this stuff manually, like cavemen. it's been decades you shouldn't need to do that

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Preferably one with a mod manager/download client. Vortex is kind of janky but it did the job. I’d prefer not to manage any of this stuff manually, like cavemen. it’s been decades you shouldn’t need to do that

    MO2 can do anything Vortex can, and in fact, Stalker and Stalker 2 modders prefer it. The files just need to be hosted elsewhere. A lot of modmakers advise against using Vortex to begin with.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Oh, thank you! MO2 seems a lot more clean and simple than Vortex.

    ...and in related news, now that I'm redownloading everything for funsies anyway, I have graduated from trying to keep my mod lists on a website to scribbling a list down in Joplin. With links and everything. In case these mods I'm using decide to move from Nexus or something.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    When is Nexus Mods 2: Electric Boogaloo?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    No they will sell it to someone that will though

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    We all know how these things go, so I understand everybody’s fears but please wait to react until they make actual moves toward crossing the line. I remain optimistic about the site’s future, and the recent ways they handled user feedback as it has been changing in the last few years is evidence I should be

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Jesus fucking Christ, they didn't sell out to a fucking company! He transferred ownership to two long-time users of the site! There wasn't even a deal struck, he just said "you're the owners now!"

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    how do we know no money was involved? both the new owners apparently work at the same company, which was recently created and is a subsidiary of a vc firm.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    How do we know there was? How, exactly is one to prove that a transaction didn't take place? Sure, he, the former owner, could say there wasn't, but that doesn't mean any more or less than what he already has, which is that he believes the new owners share his vision for the site! And at least he picked two people who, to my understanding, have been around Nexus for awhile!

    I'm not saying it's impossible that Nexus enshittifies, and I understand that it's been a trend lately, but this, as of this moment right now, feels like senseless panic that ought to be saved for when they actually do something wrong! I'll join the hate wagon when they start brutally monatizing the site or taking IPOs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Do you know how easy it would be, if money was not transferred, for the new and old owners to both outright say so? Yes they could also lie but that's irrelevant. if this wasn't a capital driven transaction, they'd assuage many fears by telling us it wasn't. They haven't done that.

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