The best games shuffle your controller inputs at random on startup to promote mental flexibility and problem solving skills.

Played flying games first. Inverted ever since.

And by inverted you mean inverted from their proper inverted position. So uninverted. Which is the inverse of correct.

Some people visualize their Y tilt "lever" as in front of the fulcrum of their neck, and some people visualize it as behind the fulcrum. Thus some people find an inverted Y axis to be intuitive, while others don't. At least, this is how the reason for the preference has been explained to me.

I still think all you inverted Y axis people are monsters.

It’s how games with flying should control but that’s the only application it should be used in to me. I believe this since that’s how it works in IRL.

Only when controlling flying crafts.

Who plays like that x_x

I started console FPS with Timesplitters 2, which used that control scheme as default. I’m pretty sure Goldeneye had similar control scheme as well.

For me it’s natural to think the analog stick as my neck. I tilt my neck forward to look down. I tilt my neck back to look up.

I exclusively play inverted. I find it also gives better control while playing FPS games.

often people who plays plane related flight games with a joystick early in their life

I used to be inverted until controller FPSs started to be a thing. I don't think people realize how long PC FPSs were mostly a keyboard-only thing. By the time WASD+Mouse standardized, quite late into the Quake 1 era I had hundreds of hours on Tie Fighter/X-Wing and a bunch of other first person flight games.

Hell, Descent predates Quake, and I'd argue it figured out full 3D controls way before Quake did.

Now that I'm on board this train of thought, do kids these days think Doom played with full mouseview and just distorted all over the place? Is it well known for people not born at the time that Doom was mechanically closer to a twin stick shooter than an FPS or have all the source ports erased that from history?

some old-school players because they learned mouse/controller camera movements on simulators. think what a pilot does when they want to tilt up: they pull, so you pull the mouse toward you, ie "down"

I used to play inverted. If it wasn't inverted, I'd flail around helplessly. Then one day, inverted didn't feel right, and I had to switch. It's been that way ever since. Sometime during the PS2 era I think. I played equal numbers of PC and console games up to that point. Dunno why it happened.

My friend insisted it was supposed to be played like that. It was my first real fps, so I put in effort to learn it. Too late to change it now.

It’s largely an age gap I think. The first generation of FPS games on N64, PS1, etc used inverted controls, so if you’re an old man millennial like me, that’s how you learned to play.

Then in later generations (PS2/3 and on) this changed and inverted became an option, rather than the default (or in some games, only!).

Thus younger gamers are used to “standard” and older gamers used to inverted.

More like "I start this new game and try to look at my feet"...

There's a version of this where 3rd person movement controls are logical to the avatar, rather than to the screen. Only in this case, it's the developers who are wrong. I'm looking at you, Resident Evil 1.

Halo CE "recalibrating your MJOLNIR suit"

Videogame cameras in 1st person it's supposed to work like this:

The REAL inverted would be move stick down and then you see down.

I play SO many demo or early access games without the Invert Y option, so it's off to discussions to ask the developer to add that so I can play.

For me a lot of it depends on the perspective.

• For an FPS, I think non-inverted feels more comfortable. I generally just want the view window to move in the indicated direction, but I understand people that like it inverted.
• If it's third person, I actually prefer completely inverted (including horizontal). Especially with something like Dark Souls where one stick controls the player and the other stick controls the camera. It's more clear that the camera is an external entity and I'm controlling the angle, not the view window. It feels unpleasant and unnatural to me to push left and then also have the camera bend to the left.
• If it's a rail shooter like Panzer Dragoon or something, we're back to non-inverted. I'm controlling the absolute position of a targeting reticle and I just want it to move to where I want it to move.

This is the core option which justifies cross-title configuration in a user profile.

I have to correct Y to inverted in every new game I start playing, there needs to be a global options titles observe.

Inverted and ESDF is the One True Way

I wonder if this correlates with the preference for laptop touchpad's natural scrolling vs. traditional scrolling.

I use inverted Y look with pad controls. Because that makes so much more sense. (Normal mouse look is fine)

I like how many new games show accessibility settings on start but it's still rare for them to have both subtitle settings and invert Y right there. And always a celebration when they are.

Games that don't even let you invert Y are hella silly. I'm so glad Xbox lets you force the invert. Gotta figure out if you can do that in Windows/Linux.

Every time someone tries and pull out the “just imagine flying a plane” explanation all I can think is motherfucker you’re playing a fucking video game

I recently built a tp camera rig for a game and in the process completely lost orientation and somehow converted myself into inverted. Games that I had in progress suddenly felt wrong for a while after that. I think I'm just very aware of the camera now instead of the view.

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This just feels natural. It's kinda like using "natural scrolling" option on a touchpad. Why would you ever want it to move the opposite direction?

I have absolutely no idea when I expect the y axis to be inverted or not. Every new game I expect the opposite of how it is.

Did, I guess. For the past ten years. All 3d games make me too sick to play them these days.