Canadian import of US wine drops 97%

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[–] 40 points 1 year ago (1 child)

There are so many places in the world that make wine. Most would be more than happy to have Canada as a preferred trading partner.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Raise a glass with your elbows up!

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  • Good, fuck em!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Only 3% more to go.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That spike around the elections lol. You guys were dealing with some tough times with the ol' vino.

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sadly, the wine producing areas of US aren't typically red.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The wines are

    Jokes aside, sorry, not sorry. The US isn't our problem yet it's made our problem. If blue states want to sell wine, then install an actual democratic government

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    [–] 111 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Guys, boycott produce at the grocery store please.

    I'm seeing far too many American apples, lettuce, cherries, grapes, strawberries, etc.

    Wine is one thing, but we have to avoid as many of their crops as possible.

    Grocery stores need to take heavy losses before they change over their suppliers, it seems.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Our local grocery stores have changed as much produce as I suspect they can. Lots of Mexican and South American, Canadian where possible. But there's still some USA and I suspect they just cannot get it elsewhere at the moment.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I saw a recent CBC News piece about a local grocery and their challenges rising to the growing demand of Canadian goods as alternatives for US goods.

    Grocery stores are very aware of the problem, and they are trying. Unfortunately, some products sit on shelves for weeks before they're cleared out in normal conditions, so it might be a while before the stock rotates out so they can rotate in non-US alternatives.

    Produce is one of those areas where it's more about who makes it, rather than who you're buying from. We can grow just about anything we want with enough time, effort, and money. Hydroponics has come a long way. But again, time, and money. We have land... We have land in spades. A lot of it is colder climates than most of these plants are capable of enduring, so if we want some things to be Canadian grown, we would need greenhouses of the stuff to grow it. Not cheap. So what if we throw out the "grown in Canada" and just went with non-US?

    There's two challenges there: can we get it in a reasonable time frame so that it can sit on shelves and/or in people's houses long enough to actually be consumed before it spoils? Is there a country with the necessary climate and shipping capability that's close enough to make all of that make sense? That's not the USA?

    This is the question we'll struggle with, and I'm certain we are struggling with. I'm certain that some varieties of apples, pears, oranges, and other common fruits and vegetables spoil fast enough that normally, our only real option for them is from North America and one of the biggest farmland areas in North America is the United States. They have prairies that rarely freeze and are vast and plentiful.

    Look, I'm not saying we should give up. Far from it. I'm just pointing out that getting to the point where we have completely eliminated US goods from grocery stores, isn't going to be an overnight thing. It will take months if not years to fully migrate to alternatives.

    Luckily, our current federal government seems to be helping in this regard. I've seen plenty of news coverage about their efforts to bring goods from Europe, and from across the Pacific, into Canada, as well as have our exports sent those directions too, so we are not economically dependent on the US buying our stuff.

    I have to give them credit for trying at least.

    Keep doing what you're doing. Look for Canadian goods, buy them whenever possible. Look for US goods, avoid them whenever possible. The market is changing. All I can say, from the economist in me, is that, I have high hopes and expectations that we will end up as a stronger, more independent country when all is said and done. The damage the commander and cheeto of the US has done with all of this will create a permanent rift between the long, prosperous and open border we've enjoyed with the USA for over 100 years. I'm worried that the US economy will suffer for a long time after this, but that's not really what any of us are actually concerned about. I feel bad for the American people, especially those who voted against this. Hopefully this serves as a strong example to everyone that they need to think a bit more about what and who they are voting for.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    i agree with you, but not at the cost of your health. don't get scurvy over a boycott

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    As much as I support boycotting American, not buying American lettuce and apples won't force the grocery stores to "switch suppliers"

    Canada can't grow that shit. All the grocery stores will switch to is corn and more bread in the bakery because we have very little land with the climate that will produce fruits and vegetables.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Canada can't grow that shit.

    We export a lot of food to the States. Keep it here.

    We also have an multiple trade partners to import from, if we don't grow it already.

    Canada has apples all year, why do stores still fill the shelves with American apples?

    We need to stop pretending that it's OK to keep giving Americans money. It's better the shelves be half empty than full of American products.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Of course we can and do grow it! We have tons of orchards and farms.

    We have so much Canadian lettuce it’s not even hard to avoid US grown. Apples? I only buy Canadian for years because they have flavour.

    Do we have some catching up to do? Sure. But it’s driven by demand. We stop buying US and it’ll drive demand for Canadian and others (friendlies) for sure.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    We can't grow enough to supply 40million people is what I mean.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Idk I've had a pretty easy time grabbing non US veggies

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You've had an easy time while others have been buying US veggies. If there were no US veggies available at all you would have a much more difficult time.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    If we don’t buy US they will bring in stuff from other countries. It’s already happening. We had never seen lemons from any country but USA. Now we get South African, Argentinian and what not. Oranges? Morocco, Egypt. Cantaloupes were always USA. Now we get some from Guatemala and Honduras and right now Canada as they are in season. Apples now? Not available yet in Canada. We get them from NZ.

    It’s all possible. There is nothing the USA grows that isn’t grown around the world.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You've never been to Canada have you? Its farms every where

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I literally live in the warmest farming country in Canada. I still 2-3 months of the year the land is fallow and can't grow anything because it's too cold, and a few other months some of it is only used to grow hay for livestock, unlike the states which can grow produce year round.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Canada can't grow lettuce and apples? Since when? We've been buying BC and Ontario fruit for decades. There are backyard apple varieties developed in Saskatchewan and Manitoba that are hardy to zone 3 and 2. Lettuce can be and is grown in hothouses in winter around the Redcliff area in Alberta. (Not to mention, it's not hard to grow in your living room under grow lights.)

    Now, off to pick some raspberries and tomatoes in my Saskatchewan back yard.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That is amazing - if buying U.S. wines were illegal, it would still be hard for it to drop that fast.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Hey, only 3 more percent to go

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sadly Scott Moe likes to drink and Danielle Smith loves Trump.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Those two probably drink the 3% themselves.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Not many people outside Saskatchewan know this, but Scott Moe killed a person while allegedly driving drunk, he had two previous DUIs, one in 1992 for DUI and one in 1994 for DUI and fleeing the scene and then right on schedule he gets in a fatal car accident in 1997 but investigation clears him... right....

    He only disclosed it because his opponents found out and were going to disclose it but it wasn't until after he was elected, but nobody wants to hold him accountable. SK elect nothing but the finest apparently.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Michael Jackson, his popcorn crunching.

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    Wine? I’d like to see American made goods in general.

    They can’t give Campbells soup away.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Surely the abundance of stock will lower the price, right?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I wish the entire world would boycott the US. Buy nothing, sell nothing. Ban travel to and from the US. The world should just turn it's back on the US. It has become a danger to the rest of the world

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Is that consumer choice or tariffs?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Consumers started to get on board with the general Buy Canadian deal (which is really translated to Don't Buy American).

    As a result, consumers were purchasing less American alcohol, and it just became an albatross on the shelf. So once retailers sold out their stock, they just replaced it with product that would actually sell, such as wines from France and elsewhere.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Liquor is controlled provincially. Only some provinces have opted to remove US liquor entirely from their shelves. AFAIK private liquor stores legally can still sell American booze even if the provincial stores pull it. I may stand corrected on that though.

    To the consumer choice element... Canada has it's own thriving wine industry. Domestic cheap wine is maybe 10% more expensive than the imported brands from California or Australia. I may be corrected on that as well, I live much closer to said wineries than 3/4 of Canadians.

    Liquor follows the 80/20 rule. So 80% of all liquor sales are made by the top 20% of liquor purchasers. That's not broken up by liquor type or price point though... but I would expect that high end wine drinkers are buying less US wine due to tariffs... while cheap wine drinkers are switching away from US wines.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    AFAIK private liquor stores legally can still sell American booze even if the provincial stores pull it. I may stand corrected on that though.

    Depends on the province. Some require private stores to buy alcohol through them, so those can prevent anyone from selling American liquor.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Provincial vs. private stores? Can you explain for us Americans?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In some provinces, liquor stores are owned by the government, and in some provinces there are both government-owned and private liquor stores. I live in Alberta, we only have privately owned ones

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    The citizens who voted orange agent krasnov they should also bear the responsibility for their actions and also those who didin't bother to vote at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Okanagan wine is better anyway.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago
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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    I mean, it sucks because most of U.S. wine is from California, which is highly against the Drumpf... but I understand.

    Me from California have stopped buying Kentucky Bourbon... and have bought Canadian whiskey... but again, I understand.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But are the wine producers Republicans? I tend to find they are

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Doesn't matter. We threatened their sovereignty. People aren't gonna stop to consider which states did what when they're under economic attack, especially economic attack which is being used as a pretense for coercion.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I miss being friends with Canada. Fucking Trump took my job and pissed off the world. I hate it here.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    And not much of value was lost

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