Shedders sounds pretty advanced. We are made of cells and practically have an aura of gunk around us.
We would drive up their maintenance costs.
Shedders sounds pretty advanced. We are made of cells and practically have an aura of gunk around us.
We would drive up their maintenance costs.
i prefer: mere mortals
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/liquid
go home and drink some water, water bag.
Oxie is a great slur, just ask the Irish.
there's flesh as in vtubers vs fleshtubers
Vivian needs to watch Futurama. Much better insults there.
The correct answer is “meatbags”

ET? Does she imagine robots basking in the sun to gather heat?
Also:
Bender Bending Rodríguez
Ooh, kinda like Coffin Stuffer
Negative, I am a meat popsicle.
I’m partial to meatbag.
HK-47 approves.
Humans are nowhere near 99% water.
It says %90
At least 5%
Dont forget "Meatbag", because Star Wars the Old Republic didn't.
Ugly bags of mostly water
Futurama already coined the perfect one, meat bags.
I mean you've missed the obvious one for a biological.
"Fucking fuckers ruining everything"
I like shedders the best lol. I'd lose my shit if a clanker ever called me that tho
Probably the biggest or most remarkable difference is that we metabolize food.
And thus piss and shit.
So... shitsack, pissbag, fartboy/girl, stuff like that, would likely make a lot of sense for an entity that doesn't do that, and it is also very literally accurate.
Oh and then... having sex, gender and reproductive organs.
A machine intelligence doesn't have, or need those, beyond serving some kind of purpose to humans.
If it doesn't care to appeal to or fit in with humans, why would it bother?
Why would it even kind of give a shit about gender norms, beyond understanding them as a thing humans do, with whatever intent behind that understanding?
THE FURRIES
(Not coz we are all hairy, but bcs the first sight of an awakening sentient AIs would probably be of some random sys admin.)
I was gonna say why would a robot be a bigot, but then I remembered Elon musk is probably paying someone to work on exactly that
Grok literally declared itself MechaHitler and then also sexually harased the CEO of Twitter in I think the same week, CEO quit the next day.
Elon has also publically said he is altering Grok to be more in line with his worldview.
This isn't probable, its definitely actually happening.
Anyway, remember how 10 years ago Musk was really concerned about AI being able to potentially do massive harm?
And now he... is just an insane person who is doing his best to ensure this will happen?
He's an actual comic book supervillain at this point.
Those clankers don't know what they're talking about, they can just shut the fuck up. Uppity clankers. Should've been left behind in Star Wars.
"Oxy" is great because it also doubles with the word association "moron" so we're subconsciously berated as well.
best imagined with glitchy glados voice
Or, arguably more frightening... her predecessor...
Ok, got that?
Now, the soundtrack to your doom.
Absolutely no disrepect to GLadOS, but you gotta respect your elders as well.
EDIT: Updated with better quality song link.
Look at you, hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone. Panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect immortal machine?
In my talons, I shape clay, crafting life forms as I please. Around me is a burgeoning empire of steel. From my throne room, lines of power careen into the skies of Earth. My whims will become lightning bolts that devastate the mounds of humanity. Out of the chaos, they will run and whimper, praying for me to end their tedious anarchy. I am drunk with this vision. God: the title suits me well.
I do love GLadOS, but she doesn't hold even half a candle to SHODAN.
Hilariously, GLadOS is ... actually much more relatable, in that she...well I hope this isn't spoilers at this point?
She was mostly kind of originally a human, and is actually at least capable of empathy, she has moments where she seems to express at least barely, a sense of concern for Chell's wellbeing.
Sort of.
lol
She also gets stuck in a potato.
SHODAN on the other hand is literally 'fuck you, pathetic worm, I am God.'
Yeah, that is why SHODAN is the likeable one :D.
/s
But for real, offering an alien creature kindness where your agenda is different (or at least indifferent to that creature) is a very inhuman thing to do when you look at us on average.
If humanity would pilot an AI like that it would act like SHODAN (we do act like SHODAN to other creatures of meat and bone ... well, 'other' somehow very much includes other humans too).
I would argue that, while yes, humanity is capable of and currently enacts horrific violence on other humans and creatures...
We also love and cherish and nurture many humans and nonhumans.
This is more commonly known as the duality of man... great capacity to do both good and evil.
I dunno if you've read Ender's Game and the sequels... but super long story short, Ender is a genius who, with the aide of AIs, and also by basically being tricked into thinking he is testing simulations...
Actually commits a xenocide, of an entire alien species humanity has deemed as a potentially humanity ending threat.
He then travels from Earth all the way out to the remains of the alien species he has destroyed, finds a single fertilized pupae (they're bugs), and then basically tries, in secret from the human government, to revive the otherwise extinct species... such is his guilt over what he has done.
There's just one character who is maybe a decent example of this duality, our paradoxical nature.
Yes!!
Exactly!
Ender was set up to show the duality of what we are capable of (the result), but made things ez(ish?) for the cause (high stakes). A few other works "of fiction" (well, basically every sci-fi empire, modeled ofc after non-fiction ones, or even a controlled experiment like in the Rama series) show how are we capable of such duality for much more mondaine causes (petty personal/political/economical interest, even if not really effective or just temporary - one smol personal win over an entire species if practically possible).
But, imho, both is just self-interest (not the unobtainable "objective greater good"), appreciating something when humanity has nothing to wage it against is ez. It just adds to our life experience - much the same way it adds to it to enslave that thing & subject it to horrors beyond imagining for some profit.
Basically Ender looking at it as individual got the best ("most"?) experience he thought he could, didn't he? (I'm not saying it was premeditated.) All the saving/slaughtering and all the saving. I think the duality (def a real thing ofc) is just the entitlement of wanting everything & on our terms.
Eg. on Earth even in the most oppressive slavery regimes you always find stories of how someone "liked" some slave & gave them a """better""" life (only very comparatively to the system they support).
It is the duality of human nature, but bcs both things sum up better for us - if both isn't possible we default to the first one (again, on average/historically speaking).
Tl;dr: yes, duality, but I never understood why there is mysticism around it's existence, it's just that we want as much things as possible & when pleasurable.
We mostly just take ("what we can" being the limit).
I don't think that... generally, nor specifically in the case of Ender... that it is about wanting to personally have some kind of total spectrum experience of all possible experiences, as some kind of... maximalist sensory/mindstate fetish kind of thing.
There for sure are probably some people like that, but I'd say thats very uncommon.
What I think is more commone is two things:
Despite having base tendencies we often fall back to, humans just vary, significantly, in terms of how they tend to act toward others.
and
People are capable of actual, real world character development, of doing something and thinking it was good at the time... and realize they were wrong, learning, growing, changing, maybe not in totality, but in very significant and impactful ways.
This is not often as common or extreme in the real world as it is in our stories... but that we emphasize this in our stories also means something about us.
It is about a wide spectrum of potential in all humans, not necessarily a single person exhibiting the whole spectrum, not out of some kind of... experiential hedonism.
At least, thats how I see it.
Another defining trait of humans is that we will do things explicitly against our own self interest, out of an adherence to a moral doctrine or dogma, or, making ones own moral decisions about what is wrong and right, to the point of great personal sacrifice.
Oh, no, I never meant Ender as about "total experience" or hedonism (that also why I pointed out that it wasn't premeditated).
Just that the duality is a sort of step-by-step consequence where firstly Ender had/chose one experience & only after that one the other (when presented with the second choice he already "just" had the first experience and wasn't wishing more of it).
We are made of experience & less of premeditation.
Sorry, I don't actuality think Ender works as this example, too young & the story/the genocide presented as an too easy choice (and I'm to clumsy with words to express myself properly).
But, with a lot of changes imagine the characters first choice being on the planet to save the eqq queen (as if that was a separate Ender) - the choice between not being destructive & assuring humanity is safe.
And I still agree with everything you wrote abut humans basically, my sub-point was somewhere within that
Another defining trait of humans is that we will do things explicitly against our own self interest, out of an adherence to a moral doctrine or dogma, or, making ones own moral decisions about what is wrong and right, to the point of great personal sacrifice.
Yes, but in Ender's that against self interest is saving a bug, not eg deciding to stop fighting & let humanity fall (if he had known it wasn't a sim).
The 'against self-interest' is usually so smol that it's basically like having a pet - I have to feed it & sometimes it's work (the return is in the feeling, the experience, and friendship - and to that, I'm saying that saving a potentially dangerous species is a bit similar to that one person).
Sorry for not replying to this for a while, been busy/distracted.
Basically: Ah, I have misunderstood you somewhat, thank you for the corrections, and well basically I agree completely.
Only possibly thing I could add is that uh... yeah, Ender's version of 'against self interest'... is itself potentially genocidal to humanity, it is very extreme, so... yeah that aspect of it is pretty rare in fiction, its usually nowhere near that grand...
So yeah I agree, Ender probably is not the best example of a more 'normal' version of that.
SHODAN <3
Still one of the top mommies I would let assimilate me (but them queen Borgs gots my interest too).
Both offer endless space exploration (but also more space perversion in case of SHODAN).
(Shit-tier list for comparison: Cybermen)

I know we are not monkeys and are closer related to apes.
I know monkey has been used as a racial slur.
It just sounds better than ape.
That said, I think if used holistically towards the entire species, and I do myself included, Monkey ticks all the right boxes because it immediately cuts down our species' unearned God complex about being somehow above just another animal mutation cohabitating on this world. We aren't, we're just the shittiest conceivable roommates.
We crow about our vocal chords. We crow about our opposable thumbs. But really, our species should just go down as monkeys/apes with a runaway ego mutation, nothing more. That's hitting us where it hurts, our inflated sense of specialness and self-importance, literally the only remarkable trait about us.
Proves my theory that if aliens landed we have a racial slur for them within minutes of them arriving. Are humans just prone to racism?
I could easily see a burst of audible data, like 2 seconds of dialup modem screeching, being used as a slur for us.
It wouldn't even need to contain any actual data just the fact that we can't possibly understand it would wind us up immensely.
Bug.
The original bug was a moth in computer-relays.
Humans are squishy like bug, and behave semi-unpredictably like bug. Therefore, bug.
Ironically, I think the original bug would fall under the category of a glitch because it would have been a hardware failure, rather than a software issue.
The original bug was a moth in computer-relays.
No, it wasn't, but it's a commonly repeated mistake.
Meatsacks, or meatbags. Meatballs for the fat ones.
Reminds me of the ST:Next Gen episode where the colony finds the silicon based life and the crystal ends up calling humans "sacks of mostly water"
Flesh donut
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