Okay maybe this isnt the best demographics here but like I mean as in if you know someone who's Gen Z, do they have a "idk how to cook" issue?

(Please don't be like "omg its easy, how could you not know" in the comments, be nice in the comments okay 🙈)

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[–] 33 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

I don’t think it’s generational in a way that GenZ is any different. This is an age thing.

Most people never need to cook before they’re 18. They just got fed at home. When people first start to move out, things start to shift. Some people get into relationships where the other person cooks. They’re still being provided for.

Others learn a bare minimum of things to cook and do it badly. They do feed themselves but self describe as “can’t cook”.

And some step up and learn the things you need to know to cook that isn’t taught in school.

Time goes by, and more people find themselves in situations where they now need to cook. The population of cooks grows and the non-cooks shrinks.

Whether it’s because of changing interests, financial pressure, divorce, whatever, people need some pressure to develop the skill, and over time they do.

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  • [–] 10 points 22 hours ago

    I think this is mostly correct, but there are also more and easier options to have food delivered than there were historically. So more ways to continue to avoid cooking means there is a longer delay before learning to cook.

    Although maybe the increasing costs of these convenient options and slow wage growth in most countries means people will start opting out of convenience, so it could switch in the other direction.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    Most people never need to cook before they’re 18

    Is this a western thing? I was taught to cook when I was old enough to handle the stove.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago

    My family believed that men do not belong on the kitchen, so I wasn’t taught how to cook. I was later taught the basics by my at-the-time-girlfriend and then learned the hard way when I started living alone

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  • [–] 3 points 7 hours ago

    Westerner here (US-Am). This is not ubiquitous, but I was never prompted to even chop vegetables, let alone actually cook meals as a kid. I learned how to cook in my early 20s during quarantine due to wanting food that I like that fits my dietary restrictions, and because I was unemployed for a couple years and cooking your own meals is generally much less expensive.

    Now, while I don't "enjoy" cooking — sometimes it's actually quite stressful, though much less now than when I started; following recipe instructions initially led to burned onions or garlic, over- or under-seasoned food, concern over the caramelizing taking thrice as long as the recipe said it would, etc. — I rarely dislike my own food, since I generally know how I'm going to like it. Plus, my family enjoys it, which is almost as nice as me enjoying it, lmao.

    I do wish that I'd been taught how to cook when I was younger, but tbh my dad very rarely cooked — he wasn't taught how — and my mom's cooking was a lot of stereotypical white Midwestern-type tuna casseroles, spaghetti with canned marinara, etc. We had a lot of frozen microwave meals.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    Netherlands, born in the 90s. My mom tried to teach me (maybe at like 15? Idk) but I basically refused because she had always done it and I didn't want to

    Not saying I'm proud of that, just giving the data point you asked for exactly as it happened! I know that many other families handled this very differently, but that's what it was like for me

    Of course, that meant catching up once I moved out ~4y later. Still hate cooking (and my gf hates it even more than I do, so the task falls to me) but I've only got one life and I have yet to find a place that sells healthy food that you can just shove down the gastrointestinal tract as-is... ^^'

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  • [–] 25 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    Fun fact - Throughout much of recorded human history, there is evidence that much of the human population has relied on centralized food services and kitchens.

    Not knowing how to cook is not as uncommon as people seem to think.

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  • [–] 19 points 17 hours ago

    The fast food joints in the ruins of Pompei are fascinating. Stone tables with circles cut out so you could put food on the table and warm it from below, it's basically a modern street vendor setup without the glass.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago* (1 child)

    That seems strange, do you remember where you read that? My understanding was that until one or two hundred years ago (like somewhere between our grandparents their great grandparents, depending on where they were in the world), virtually everyone was a subsistence farmer or hunter-gatherer. You're saying most of these people couldn't have prepared what they found/farmed without someone there to do it for them? :o

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  • [–] 42 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    Just for context, a hell of a lot of Boomer men (and those men before them) could barely warm up a can of soup because cooking was women's'work, despite most "great" chef's being men at that time. Gen X men were a little better, but not by a lot. I'm Gen X for context.

    It really only became widely desirable / fashionable for men to cook with the Millennials came along. Before then, the ladies were expected to learn how to cook from other ladies, but of course only some of them had role models to teach them.

    tl;dr everyone cooking is a relatively recent phenomenon, and as all the commenters here say, it's a skill one needs to learn. Thanks for coming to my mini-TED talk.

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  • [–] 9 points 14 hours ago

    My friend's boomer aged parents got a divorce at like age 75. Nobody really saw it coming. His dad sent us a picture of some stew he tried to make and I didn't even know you could make stew so bad. I could just tell from the picture. My chef roommate went over and showed him some instructions and tips on how to cook.

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  • [–] 7 points 13 hours ago

    As a millennial, I only learned to cook as self-defence; my mother was a shitty cook. On top of that she regularly did some diet stuff while I was underweight. Virtually none of my male peers did much beyond heating stuff up.

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  • [–] 16 points 18 hours ago* (2 children)

    Both my kids are Gen Z and at least from my experiences talking to them and their friends, one of the big factors is no one taught them when they were young. I'm not talking anything formal, just helping out in the kitchen, chopping veg, grating cheese, whatever. Either their parents don't cook or they didn't let them be active participants in meal prep.

    My kids however do know how to cook, as they've helped out since they were little. Learned from my own experience as a picky eater - get your kids involved in making stuff and you won't have to worry about them only eating chicken nuggets or whatever. Once they were teenagers, they got assigned meal prep once a week - they'd pick a recipe, help with the shopping, and make dinner (with help if they asked for it). And now they're both adults who can make their own food. It's shocking to me though how many in their generation just were never given the chance to learn the basics when they were young.

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  • [–] 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

    i think its your first point, parents/friends dint show them how to cook. and they are likely just microwaving things. the parents are cooking all thier meals for thier children and they dont push them to participate or dont do it in a way to let them learn from it(some are enablers, and will just baby the child which has its own problems, because they dont want them to mess up the kitchen)

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  • [–] 25 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

    Every Human needs to learn to cook. Not a gourmet 12 course meal. Just cook simply to feed yourself. This is a basic skill.

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  • [–] 7 points 13 hours ago

    Well said. Don't even need to spend money to learn. Go to web. Find interesting tasty recipe... Try it out. Leftovers for lunch or freeze. I'm gen x and grew up cooking. Trust me - eat microwave pre made crap too much and you'll be fat with ass cancer before you know it.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    I don't disagree, but the number of things "every human needs to learn" has become utterly impossible.

    Cooking, sure.

    Cleaning and housekeeping, yeah, okay.

    Managing your money, banks, pension, boring stuff. Ugh.

    Media literacy (understanding author's biases, checking sources, etc.), uhh, getting pretty hard, but not learning this can end up destroying your life.

    How to use a computer, and how to use Windows and MS Office in particular, because you're going to have to do that at some point whether you want to or not. Ugh, getting a bit tedious now. And the software keeps changing so you have to re-teach yourself every now and then.

    Identifying scams and phishing, and what to do when you encounter one. That's a real tough one, and keeps getting harder faster because scammers continue to invent new tricks.

    Politics. Gotta know a thing or two, and who to vote for (if you live in a democracy).

    Detecting deepfakes and AI propaganda. Maybe count this under media literacy, but it's a totally new thing that everyone needs to know.

    How to use public transportation. Can be really difficult in some places, and always very intimidating the first time you do it.

    The list goes on and on and on. Every single human is expected to be Superman now. No, I refuse. Fuck that.

    I'm shit at cooking. I will avoid cooking as much as possible unless my life depends on it. And I rely on my family and the society around me to keep me fed. I repay in other ways. I can fix just about anything around the house. And almost any computer trouble. My family relies on me to do those things.

    I'm not surprised that people can't cook. The world is impossible to navigate.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 child)

    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

    -Robert A. Heinlein, 1973

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  • [–] 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

    I'm seeing a lot more apartments without kitchens than I did 20 years ago.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    To be fair, I'm also seeing people spend crazy % of their income on housing. The lack of a kitchen might have other causes!

    Fast food is (sadly) not the type of meal that's expensive. I doubt the proper meals my mom cooked (meat+potatoes/pasta+vegetables) in a kitchen are significantly cheaper than sticking a 3.5€ frozen pizza in an oven, whereas space for a stove, countertop, cupboards and everything is at least like 3x2=6m², × ~12€/m²/month = almost a month's worth of frozen pizza's :P

    Not that I've actually ever seen living space without kitchen, maybe that's not as much of thing in western Europe

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  • [–] 12 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

    COVID broke people. I know people who cooked their own food all the time, and they've shifted to 100% online ordering or going for take-out -- even breakfast and lunch -- and they're paying through the nose. But this just seems like the New Normal to them.

    I don't think the problem is unique to Gen Z but it definitely skews toward the younger generations.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago

    Funny. I'm on the older side of Gen Z (closing in on 30) and I actually started cooking because of quarantine. (See my other comment.) I make a fruit smoothie for breakfast every day and prep salads for lunch at work, which I guess technically isn't "cooking", but it's food that I prepared. I often meal prep by cooking something for Sunday dinner that I'll reheat as leftovers for weekday dinners.

    I do get takeout occasionally, but my favorite places tend to be things like a local Thai place whose curry pad Thai is under $15 and lasts 2-3, so it balances out to more like $5 or $7.5 a meal.

    The Indian food that I've gotten also tends to last at least a couple meals for a very reasonable cost — and has become my favourite cuisine since first trying it in 2023 — but regrettably the nearest place is like 45 minutes away, and driving an hour and a half to pick up food is not my go-to, so I don't get it often.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago

    Millennial here. We fell victim to the ease and variety of delivery apps, but broke the habit this year. It was a mix of things, but mostly price went gone up and quality went down.

    How my house break the habit? We set a goal. A vacation next year, partly funded by what was going to delivery food. When laid out clearly, the choice was clear, a sizable vacation to another country was worth way more than underwhelming fast food.

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  • [–] 10 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

    I work with a lot of Gen Z and it’s been fun talking to them about cooking! They are learning techniques, recipes, and talking about how they are improving each time they make something.

    We share recipes and have fun with it. Ofc everyone eats out, or brings microwave meals. That’s life. But watching them learn and grow as people is pretty awesome. Some boomer probably asked the same about my millennial self.

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  • [–] 5 points 22 hours ago

    I suspect it's a bit worse today because of convenience systems, but yea, I was clueless as a young adult too.

    No one taught me as a kid (thanks, Mom) so had to figure it out on my own.

    Fortunately for young adults today the resources are extensive.

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  • [–] 10 points 23 hours ago

    I think not knowing how to cook is common when toung. Today in my early 40's I'd say I'm pretty decent, but I was useless in my 20s.

    What got me started was necessity due to all of a suddenly having kids. Trial and error.

    What clicked was when I learned that being a half-decent cook didn't mean knowing recipes by heart (although I'm sure many do), but more generalized approaches that work well for various ingredients. If you know them oven temp for various stuff, the rest is mostly just preference when it comes to flavoring, and that's something you learn to measured with your heart over time.

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  • [–] 10 points 15 hours ago

    My problem is that I can cook but never have the willpower to after work, so I usually don't eat or eat some junk

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  • [–] 10 points 4 hours ago

    35 here: my cooking before I could afford to eat out every meal was boiled chicken and rice. The prep time for meals that I enjoy are multi hour affairs, and I’d rather work an extra hour for a meal prepared by a professional whose food I enjoy.

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  • [–] 8 points 21 hours ago*

    It's not necessarily something to be ashamed of. In some societies, people rarely cook for themselves at all. It's all done by professionals and the restaurants are cheap and plentiful enough to support that. The problem is that this is definitely not the case in the places you are probably referring to

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  • [–] 7 points 6 hours ago

    To counter your anecdote with my own, not that I've seen. My Gen Z sister and her cohort of Z friends have a "chosen family" dinner every weekend where they come over and cook. One person takes lead, the rest help as needed, and almost every single one finds recipes and learns techniques from Instagram or TikTok.

    They've come up with some crazy good dishes that I wouldn't have stumbled across via traditional cookbooks and more millennial + oriented websites. My sister also has much better and more varied techniques than I ever got the old way, learning from mother and other relatives.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 hours ago

    At that stage of my life, my cooking was rudimentary. While my parents made sure we could cook, it was limited to grilling and baking

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  • [–] 6 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

    or is that just a minority?

    I mean, where? Things like this depend entirely on your local culture and policies.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

    I read that theres a global phemonmeon ranging all the way from US to China and im not sure if the mainstream media is right and kinda wanna hear annecdotes. But I'm gonna assume mainstream media probably excludes "poor" countries (since they dont have the luxury that "rich" countries have)

    Apparantly this issue is even worse in China because of high tech (in terms of smartphones and app usage) combined with the labor is cheaper so Gen Z Chinese can afford delivery services to be used frequently.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    You make it sounds like that's a lot but what's between the USA and China? It's just Japan and a few islands neither group of citizens could find on a map no?

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  • [–] 6 points 17 hours ago

    My kid is gen-Z and he loves to cook. When he was still living at home he used to have to cook once a week, and now he's living on his own he gets inspo from Sorted.

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  • [–] 6 points 16 hours ago

    im a gen z with insane executive dysfunction thanks to adhd. for a while when I was living on my own, yes I was living on microwave meals. they're really cheap to get a bunch where I live and they have some variety, and I grew up on them due to my parents not really cooking often and being a latch key kid so they were a little nostalgic. but once I realized I never felt full after eating one and making some more money I started meal prepping for the whole week. i know how to cook and I can make some banger meals but my main problem is cleaning up everything afterwards. I'm learning to enjoy cooking and i always try to make a meal for any guest I have over.

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  • [–] 6 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

    I'm a millennial who's just learning to cook, definitely not gen Z lol. I dated people that cooked but mostly it was out food, microwave food, and extreme basics like spaghetti that's noodles and jar sauce.

    My parents both grew up extremely poor with both parents working. They didn't really get taught how to cook. And being poor meant, no extra money for anything with flavor. My parents spice cabinet had salt, a 5 year old container of pepper, and a probably older container of Italian seasoning. That's it.

    For most of my life I thought I just didn't really like food until I moved out. We didn't have a lot of money either so we didn't really go out. Having my own job and living with other people meant I had money to go out and holy shit, out food was delicious! Never occurred to me until years later that, this could be made at home much cheaper if I just take the time to learn how.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 22 hours ago (3 children)

    "Didn't like food" 😭

    I remember thinking that instant raman noodles were delicious cuz mom was terrible at cooking and dad who knows how to make a few decent dishes was busy at work often times, and so the "good food" included

    1. The Mcdonalds around the corner (kid-me loved it, its basically my impression of "American food" at the time lmfao)
    2. Roast Duck/Chicken or Cha Siu from a nearby Chinese American restaurant + rice from the rice cooker at home
    3. Of course the aformentioned instant ramen
    4. Some weird canned fish thing from Asian Supermarkets, i dont think its very nutritious and its not very good to taste but its just that you eat it with rice and the rice is what fills your stomach
    5. "Fermented Bean Curd" + Rice

    Average childhood in a poor immigrant Chinese family with parents that worked all the time

    But um yeah I sure¹ can cook. Um... lets see:

    • I can pan-fry eggs and then just cook rice and eat the fried eggs with rice and call it a meal...

    (¹No I cant really cook unless you call these pathetic meals "cooking" 😅)

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  • [–] 3 points 18 hours ago

    I preach the gospel of the Instant Pot (stand alone pressure cooker) whenever I can. Can be had for <$50 on Marketplace. Stews, soups, ribs, and more. Make a big batch, eat for 3-5 days, then make something different. Kimchi Stew is my favorite thing ever. So many recipes for it are: dump a bunch of stuff in, set the time and press start. Crockpots are good too, but the Instant Pot cuts down on cook time substantially.

    Burrito bowls: Airfry (a feature some Instant Pots have) boneless skinless chicken thighs, chop it up and put that over rice. Add corn and beans (from cans), some shredded cheese, taco sauce, prepped pico and guac, and sour cream. One of my fave things. Eventually you can make your own pico and guac.

    Experiment with different seasonings on the chicken thighs to make it work in other dishes.

    You can do this!

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  • [–] 3 points 21 hours ago

    Rice and eggs are the start of a million meals. You can toss veggies (whatever you like) in whatever sauce (soy, hoisin, teriyaki, oyster, etc) and throw it with the rice. You can add broth. You can add crunchy garlic or green onions.

    Learn to hard boil eggs and you can marinade de-shelled ones for a few days in soy/onion/chilis and it pairs with it as well.

    Our Asian supermarket has very large bags of Bok Choy for cheap, and that can be made in a ton of ways.

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  • Relatable! I'm learning, slowly lol. I picked up a Betty Crocker cook book, this one specifically (not sure why the cover art is missing it's the red cover with a spoon shape) and that's been pretty good so far. Lots of things in there about HOW to do things. And The Food Lab which if you like science and really understanding what you're doing, you'll love that book.

    I've also subscribed to !cooking@lemmy.world, !homecooking@lemmy.world, and !baking@lemmy.world as well as a few alts of similarly named communities.

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  • [–] 11 points 23 hours ago

    My boomer mother can burn water, so wtf are you on about the kids for?

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  • [–] 5 points 17 hours ago

    I'm gen z and everyone I know cooks elaborate meals. We love it

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  • [–] 5 points 19 hours ago

    I call myself a cook, and my son a chef. I have a few dishes that I know so well that I just wing it on measurements. He creates dishes on vibes. He has this intuition about what he does. Part of that does come from his mom and I, but I think a lot of it comes from his maternal grandma.

    I did not know how to do much “grown up” stuff when I moved out 20+ years ago. I don’t think this is a generational divide. If anything, Kids These Days™ have short form videos that they can lean on for cooking and even basic home maintenance. Car repair videos on YouTube are ubiquitous. They’ll be fine.

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  • [–] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

    Gen Zers that i know all cook way more than i did at their age

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  • [–] 8 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

    I'm a millennial and I know how to cook, but I absolutely hate it, and food is so expensive. I live alone, so either I eat the same meal for a week straight or seem to waste half the ingredients for a meal. I started using a restaurant that does a meal prep service and I can buy 10 dinners for ~$75. They're all healthy-ish, give me dinners for 2 weeks, and all I have to do is take them from the freezer and heat them up in the microwave. In contrast, last time I went to the grocery store I bought 2 limes, 5 lemons, a loaf of bread, a cup of soup, and a bag of pretzels and it cost over $30.

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  • [–] 1 point 15 hours ago* (1 child)

    I'm in an extremely HCOL area and the prices aren't that bad. Weekend meal 4 servings was <$15, three dishes + rice mix and match, including ribs, eggs, fresh veg (tomatoes, imported gai lan cuz I missed the stuff), etc. I am shopping discounts a lot but there's always something on sale which brings down the cost. Didn't take long to cook either. Gai lan took 90s to cook, eggs and tomatoes were around 5min, and the ribs were braised for an hour while I was doing other stuff. Meanwhile, the portions for something like Hello Fresh seem awful price-wise and they never have what I like.

    Could it be the stuff you bought were all premade? That tends to rack up the price. I avoid the hot aisles unless its close to closing and there's steep discounts on everything.

    Uhh... I mean I'm a fish. "Blub blub".

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago

    I got exactly what was listed, and I don't shop at a high end grocery story either. The only thing "premade" was the cup of soup and that wasn't hot, it was potato soup out of a refrigerated section and I only got it because that particular potato soup is banger.

    Unless you want to consider a loaf of bread premade :)

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  • [–] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 child)

    I'm 27 and perfectly fine at cooking! But yeah, just like someone else here mentioning it's because I have a sibling who's 10 years younger than me so I basically raised them. I was cooking for the family by like age 12.

    I don't know many people my age who blatantly don't know how to cook. My husband isn't the greatest at cooking with no recipe, but he can absolutely keep himself fed with the dishes he does know. He can even fry an egg, despite the fact I only let stainless steel pans in our kitchen.

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  • [–] 2 points 18 hours ago

    My husband isn’t the greatest at cooking with no recipe

    Ha, this is basically me. I count myself as a passable cook so long as I have a recipe to follow. I'm MUCH more limited if I have to improvise.

    Fortunately for me, there are a lot of recipes available online.

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  • [–] 4 points 21 hours ago

    This is actually a problem at my work, that gen z do not know how to cook at much higher levels than others.

    I work in residential mental health, so we have some cooking to do. The overwhelming majority of gen z co workers seriously struggle with anything more than heating up. It affects how we divy up job duties and caused issues when we tried to save money by doing more cooking in house.

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  • [–] 3 points 17 hours ago*

    Time is also an issue, people are working 2 or 3 jobs now that include weekends who don't have anyone to help.

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  • [–] 3 points 23 hours ago

    I wouldn't qualify it as a Gen Z thing. As a Xennial, I have a quite a few Gen Z coworkers and most of them actively talk about recipes and meals they're making and they are not just slapping some Mac and Cheese together and calling it. Some of the meals they're talking about cooking are fairly advanced. At least two have dedicated pizza ovens and make their own dough. A number of them are cooking involved multi-course meals I'd never have tried until I was in my late 30's... Hearing their recipes and such I'm fairly impressed on a regular basis.

    I think it's more related to experience and available time and CASH. One of them has fallen a bit back into hello fresh, a few times a week, but they just had a kid, so no blame there.

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  • [–] 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    As far as I know cooking (and no, shoving something in a microwave is not cooking ) isn’t an ability you’re born with, you need to learn it from someone.

    Yes, I do know Gen Z who cook. I even know Gen Z who meet up with friends to cook together. Not because “cooking is so easy”, most of them learned it from their parents, but that’s to be expected because where I’m from most people cook on a daily basis.

    I guess it depends on where you’re from and whether cooking is a regular thing there, then you just learn it like you learn how to use the washing machine or the hoover.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 14 hours ago (1 child)

    Cooking is different than using a washing machine. A washing machine is basically a "microwave that cleans your clothes"... as mean as in "put the stuff inside, press some buttons, and wait", well with just one extra step of adding detergent but yea the point is you dont have to actively monitor it through the whole process, and have some leeway after its "ready" (cuz food just gets cold, and your clothes dont start rotting unless you leave it in there for like 5 hours or something)

    As for "where I'm from" oh yea kinda reminds me, my parents are from China and I think Chinese cruisine is just complicated as hell, cuz like one time I tried like stir-fry some beef dish already marinated and ready to cook, and like I try to do it from memory of watching dad cook, but it ended up like tasting a bit "off" vs how he normally cooks. And yeah I have no clue how the marinating works, they just put a bunch of weird sauces and its done too fast I cant even remember which bottles of sauces and I was standing too far away to see the label on them.

    I could roughly make a Tofu dish thingy but its like barely 50% of how my dad made it, then I think he got older and in like a few years, food quality started to deteriorate too, I lowkey think he was just like omg why is my son so stupid, eh I dont even feel like cooking and so less effort got put into it cuz he was tired, tired of having kids lolol 💀

    I think Asian households just creates a "distance" that makes it hard to be like "omg dad teach me how to cook" cuz if you mess up they're gonna have the Tiger Parent Death Stare.

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  • [–] 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    I'm gen z. Cooking is difficult. I do it sometimes. My trick is throwing things I like into a pan and hoping they get better. It's easier with some things.

    One tip I have is: Do not do thing concurrently. You will fail. Everything I do takes very long, and if I do two things at once it will be a Desaster.

    A trick to make it more fun is listening to music or a podcast while you do it.

    Also, many things you can get at the supermarket have instructions or suggestions about how to prepare them.

    You don't have to do a whole range of things. It's okay if you can do one recipe and that's it for a start.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago* (1 child)

    Multiple times as a child I had the sudden urge to cook something for fun, got up to prepare, and realized I don't know where my parents put which ingredients.

    I did learn a decent amount when I lived away from parents for a while and could actually experiment daily now I knew where everything's stored.

    But the gen Z housing crisis has hit me too and now I only know how to cook very basic stuff off the top of my head again.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago

    My niece and nephew are young but can both cook. if you don't know you learn the same way you learn any other skill. When I was figuring it out I looked up simple recipes and mastered those and then moved on to more complicated ones. If I didn't know how to do something I watched someone on Youtube do it first. Even when I was starting out it was rare that I ended up with a meal that was inedible. There's nothing to be afraid of.

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

    I don't think it is a "idk how to cook" more than "i don't need to cook" problem. You don't need to know how to cook to survive when food delivery services is just one click away and if that is not your thing you can always takeaway or dine-in at the restaurant/shops instead.

    I can cook, i enjoy cooking, i prefer cooking but sometimes i am lazy so i do takeout or dine-out instead. Most of the people i know don't know how to cook (by that i mean anything more than reheating precooked food, frozen food etc) if anything i am in the minority.

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  • [–] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 child)

    Is that a serious suggestion? Wouldn't that cost a fortune?

    I hate to cook as much as anyone but when I look up food delivery, it's just way too expensive

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago

    Depends on where you live i guess. Over here cooking is only cheaper if you are eating the same thing for the entire week or if you are cooking for 4-5pax++ otherwise dine out/take out is the cheaper option.

    As for food delivery it is free with a minimum order. (Can easily hit with main+dessert or side or just order an extra main for later) and every shop is on the app.

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  • [–] 2 points 18 hours ago*

    maybe the ones that are still living at home and parents are cooking all thier meals? its a notable increase thats for sure.

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  • [–] 2 points 18 hours ago

    Gen Z is not specific enough to be a useful demographic cluster. You have to overlay it over another specification or it's trying to pretend someone who is somewhere in an ill defined age range, living in Shanghai as the child of a politician is going to have something relevantly similar to someone of a vaguely similar age, though with possibly a full 10 years difference, from Nunavut, put into the foster system.

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  • [–] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    Gen Z is 14-29 year olds. Most of these probably still live with family so yeah, how often do you expect them to cook?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 19 hours ago

    Problem is, the idea of "moving out" becomes an even scarier thought (I mean on top of the cost of rent issue), like the first thought that comes in mind is just "omg could I even survive in this world solo?"

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  • [–] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    Gen Z has a basic competence issue apparently because everyone complains about their ability to do everything. Weaponized incompetence or whatever they are calling it. The good news when it comes to being able to cook is that anyone can figure it out for themselves. If you can make instant ramen noodles then you can cook.

    I highly recommend anyone who wants to learn to cook get a hold of the Fannie Farmers CookbookFannie Farmer Cookbook find a used copy somewhere because $50 for a book first published in 1869 is friggin ridiculous.

    This book is basically a reference book as well as a recipe book. It explains just about everything from measuring to prepping to storing things in your pantry. It is stuffed with recipes for basic things and then a bunch of recipes that build on those basics.

    My mom was a lifelong food lover and taught herself to cook because her mom couldn’t. She had a library full of cookbooks from all over the world and through the ages. The only cookbook she gave me when I moved out was the Fannie Farmer Cookbook which is a tome to be sure. She told me it was the only one I would ever really need. Everything else is just recipes.

    Gen Z, millennial, Gen X it doesn’t matter who you are it is flat out cheaper to cook your own food. If you are single then soups and casseroles are your buddy. If you make a different one every other day and freeze the rest you will have a constant supply of a variety of meals you can reheat at will so you don’t get burnt out. If you are a couple just about every meal feeds four which is dinner plus leftover lunch for the both of you.

    I live in Houston, TX which is one of the most diverse food scenes anywhere with some of best restaurants for every kind of food and I can’t find a steakhouse that consistently makes a better steak than me. The closest I’ve come was from a guy selling steaks at a bar I used to go to 15 years ago. No one makes better pancakes than I do. I’ve never been hesitant to order pancakes when I’m out but I’m always disappointed and feeling ripped off. The difference is staggering. Pancakes are cheeeap and making them better costs next to nothing. The only restaurant food I buy is food I don’t make yet.

    Stop giving your money to people who really don’t deserve it. Learn to cook. One thing at a time. Every success leads to more success. The knowledge you gain is for life. You pass some of it on and one day far in the future every human will be a master chef because what else is there to do?

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  • [–] 1 point 18 hours ago

    If you are a couple just about every meal feeds four which is dinner plus leftover lunch for the both of you.

    That's how my partner and I do it. Dinner tonight and leftovers for lunch tomorrow. Occasionally we make a larger batch of something and end up eating leftovers for dinner again.

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  • [–] 1 point 42 minutes ago

    My son is 22 now, when he was 14 I started giving him “serious” cooking lessons, as in not just helping mom in the kitchen but making whole meals with only guidance from me. When he was ~19 in college all the boys on the floor of his dorm decided they wanted to do a 4th of July cookout. My son was the only boy on the whole floor who knew how to cook. They winged it on the grill and that was fine but even like potato salad was too much for anyone else to make. He called me to tell me how proud he was of himself for essentially running the whole thing because it would have just been meat and chips without his cooking lessons. Obviously this is just one kid in a dorm for a mathematics/computer science college so big grain of salt of course but both my kids (20 and 22) are the only ones in their friend groups who can cook

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  • [–] 1 point 19 hours ago

    They're fine. We talk about cooking before class on occasion and my students tend to be pretty on top of that, and baking. This is especially true of women who take care of their siblings. Honestly, it's on par for the age, but there is one more unique aspect and that's reliance on Tiktok or IG for recipes.

    That means that I'll sometimes run into people who love cooking but they're often making what's popular at the time. But... my cohort, millennials, aren't too different in using our online recipes. They're just a little less... creative, compared to what you see on Tiktok. Plus, video format is trash for cooking, but that's my own opinion.

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  • [–] 1 point 19 minutes ago

    It's not that hard and can be a mindfulness exercise with the washing, cutting and other prep, and then cook it and smells delicious and enjoy the food when it's ready. It can be as healthy as you want. Ina Garten videos/books explain well and she's like a kind and helpful aunt! Mr. Money Mustache also has some good advice on food and nutrition and cutting costs too.

    Stay under 25 g added sugars a day, have them after/with fiber, good fats and proteins to slow the sugar hit to the brain and liver. Check fasting insulin and C-reactive protein along with the usual checks to look for metabolic and inflammatory issues earlier. Homa-ir and TG/HDL are useful to check your health for your gender and age, before you need treatment for something. You can eat great, spend less and be healthier!

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago

    I know a couple people at work who consistently bring trader Joe's microwave food, the rest bring stuff from home.

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  • [–] 1 point 19 hours ago

    I'm a young millennial (31) with some old gen Z friends (mid to late 20s) and the cooking thing is all over the place with us. The biggest cook is the oldest Gen z guy in the group who loves cooking. Me personally I don't care to cook. Cereal for breakfast, a microwave meal or sandwich for lunch, then a frozen pizza or frozen chicken for dinner is good for me.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago

    Learn how to cook a couple new recipes a week and eventually you will be good at cooking

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  • [–] 1 point 5 minutes ago

    I'm an elder millenial and my parents cooking consisted of 1) BBQ a piece of meat until it's real dry and 2) microwave a can of veggies.

    I moved out early and in a pretty unsupported way, so I had to pretty much immediately figure out how to feed myself. I don't remember who pointed me to Budget Bytes but I'm pretty certain Beth pretty much taught me how to cook.

    This is not paid, I just really love Budget Bytes. The recipes are generally pretty simple and approachable. They are obviously budget friendly. But most of all every single recipe has step by step pictures. if I don't know what a fine dice vs a mince is -- it's in the pictures. If I don't understand what spoon coating thick is -- also in the pictures. Last benefit: Beth would regularly make suggestions for additions or substitutions. Other commenters would say their favorite changes. There's a few contributors these days, but they all seem similarly good.

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  • [–] 1 point 53 minutes ago

    im ahhh. not proud but kinda a sterotypical guy in the kitchen and I live large on the largess of my wifes skill. When I was single pizza was a very common meal for dinner and fast food for breakfast and lunch. Freezer filled with microwaveable options and plenty of cereal on hand at all times along with bread, peanut butter, jelly, lunch meat and cheese.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    Maybe more broadly, consider that it's not always simply "kids these days" but often just the stage of life one is in. Don't worry, they'll come around to seeing most things your way - just that you'll again have moved on to a yet later stage and not notice that they're now in agreement with your former self

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  • [–] 1 point 21 hours ago* (1 child)

    The Zoomers i know are either amazing cooks or can cook 1 meal but eat out 90% of the time. But for every one that can cook there are 3 that dont cook. I dont know a single millennial or gen xer who cant cook or couldnt cook at 16. I dont think the problem is universal to gen z. Its just an issue in wealthy urban populations.

    Im not good with meal prep so I just heat up a frying pan throw some meat in, throw some veggies in and season it. Its quick, tasty and cheap. I rotate the meat and veggies so im always eating something different. I buy the veggies frozen and presliced so no prep or wastage.

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  • [–] 3 points 19 hours ago

    I don't know a single millennial or gen xer who cant cook or couldnt cook at 16.

    Millennials here, can cook, and pretty much all of my friends are capable of at least basic cooking

    But damn-near everyone I know who went to college and lived in a dorm has at least one story about the time the fire alarm went off because some kid who had never cooked for themselves didn't realize they needed to do something really basic like add water to Kraft Mac & cheese and smoked out the building.

    Similarly, my sister (also a millennial, albeit a younger one) had a friend who didn't realize that after she (successfully) made some Mac & cheese, that the leftovers needed to be refrigerated. She had a Tupperware container of it sitting in her desk or something, and it stunk up her room a couple days later until my sister helped sniff out the problem.

    Those are probably some of the more egregious examples, but you can pretty easily imagine that there were plenty more who couldn't manage or wouldn't attempt anything that didn't come out of a box or freezer with directions printed on the package.

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  • Is this more of a white people problem? I feel like most of the other Asian kids I grew up with learned how to help in the kitchen before they could really reach a stove top without a step stool. This might just be an immigrant family thing though.

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