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trans woman, not "transwoman" (piefed.blahaj.zone)
submitted 3 days ago by to c/mtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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It makes me sad when I see people in community describing themselves as a "transwomen" instead of trans women.

It's a word made up by TERFs and other transphobes to differentiate between cis or as they would say,

'phobic language
"normal"
women, and transgender women.

"Trans" is short for transgender, an adjective modifying the noun "women." Hence, it should be two words, trans women. Same as tall woman or short woman, not tallwoman or shortwoman.

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[–] 31 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You wouldn't type blackwoman.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    But that does bring up an interesting question, in order of adjectives, should it be Black Trans Women or Trans Black Woman? The first sounds better to me but what do I know?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    There is a standard-ish adjective order in English:

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/grammar/british-grammar/adjectives-order

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    • [–] 21 points 3 days ago* (3 children)

    Who cares my past, my agab, deadname and such. My goal is to be woman, just woman, girl, lady, miss, chick, bitchqueen, mistress... oh... We all are women (or uncracked eggs, not pushing anyone into anything).

    Trans, is a path, not the destination.

    *This still stand even for some nb and fluids and alike folks, swapping between old and new is the path, not the goal - be self is the goal.

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    • [–] 20 points 3 days ago

    I appreciate posts like this because now I know to never phrase it that way.

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    [–] 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    You say this, yet your username has no spaces. Curious.

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    • [–] 13 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    i happily call myself transfem because i think it applies to many more people than "trans woman". you can be feminine without being a full woman, if you get what i mean.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Do you call yourself "a transfem," though? That's the usage OP is talking about. Regardless of how you add detail, I'd guess that "a trans person" is more comfortable than "a trans"

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago*

    Waow you're a trans?!? Me too! Though I prefer the more formal form, "an transgender."

    Seriously trans people can call me anything up to and including the most vile possible slurs so long as its said with a friendly intonation. Cis people, not so much.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I dunno, it always seems weird to me. Cis men can be feminine. A trans guy can be feminine. Masculine/feminine describe gender expression, not gender identity.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    Transgender is also has the problems of implying that you are changing your gender rather than just saying society (and perhaps yourself) were wrong about their initial guess at your gender. Regardless Meanwhile, using transsexual can imply it has something to do with sexual orientation even if you mean your are changing your sex to better match your gender (and the type of people who want to emphasize that tend to be transmeds, poisoning the term enough that I wouldn't personally use it).

    Transfem is useful for indicating you are trans in a way that is more in the direct of woman without necessarily being a woman; it intentionally avoids giving a specific gender identity, but instead rules out one. There are certain experiences that are much more common among transfem people than non-transfem people, so its a useful word for indicating whom a meme or question might be most relevant to without unnecessarily excluding NBs whom they are relevant to.

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    • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    What about trans-woman or (trans)woman?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 days ago

    They both have the same issue, of othering the subject rather than including them. The former is no different from using transwoman and the latter is a weird corruption of bracket usage which implies the word transwoman. Neither is necessary when you can simply separate the words appropriately with a space so as to be clear the subject is a woman who happens to be trans, not a separate category.

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