Good to know we'll never have any new TV shows based in an emergency room ever again
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Listing the similarities between the two shows, the court cited the emergency room setting, the fast pace, use of medical jargon, graphic depictions of injuries, and younger doctors fresh from medical school being trained.
I hope she isn't going after Scrubs next they also meet all these standards too!
Every medical drama does these days. It's wild that this is even being considered. Next The Office will go after every TV show that takes place in an office.
grays anatomy:

Gray's wasn't/isn't solely based in the ER, a lot in the OR and patient rooms. There are also numerous other medical dramas before and since that haven't been sued.
As someone who never saw ER i wonder if these broad descriptions are enough for the claim to succeed with a jury. A key point is probably going to be that Noah Wyle was in ER and in talks for a sequel that the estate shutdown before The Pitt.
You ever been so out of the loop that this article is where you found out that Michael Crichton died?
I'll see your 'found out via article' and raise you a 'found out in a comment on said article'
lmao, I literally just said “Michael Crichton died??” to my husband when I read the bit about his widow. Apparently in 2008.
Listing the similarities between the two shows, the court cited the emergency room setting, the fast pace, the use of medical jargon, graphic depictions of injuries and younger doctors fresh from medical school being trained.
With the exception (maybe) of the younger training doctors, though I imagine doctors gotta learn, everything described there is a definitional part of a medical drama set in an emergency room. I understand the court letting this move forward because there may be good reason to explore the more detailed similarities. But the ones they listed there... that is baseless.
You cannot copyright a real world setting or genre. The subject matter of emergency room medicine is not owned by Michael Crichton, Warner Brothers, or anyone. Would be like saying the creator of Honeymooners owns the rights to domestic abuse. ER's copyright encompasses its characters, and specific stories. Not the entire concept of an ER or triage medicine. It did not create any of those concepts. It also doesn't own the style of narrative, pacing, editing, cinematography, etc. used, either.
With the exception (maybe) of the younger training doctors, though I imagine doctors gotta learn, everything described there is a definitional part of a medical drama set in an emergency room.
And the training doctors are an audience insert, so that characters can explain shit that would be obvious for anyone who is actually at home in the setting.
It's also shot in a totally different way that is obvious, even to people who don't understand tv production. If there had been no mention of ER, NOBODY would make the connection.
It sounds like they had this medical show with Noah Wylie, and someone had the bright idea of shortcutting the promotion by tying to a beloved old show he'd been in. There was really no connection, but if it could make the show get accepted faster, it would be worth it. So they float the idea, but move forward anyway, because the project doesn't rely on the ER connection.
Later, the Estate claims the ER connection was everything because of course they do.
Somehow I got The Pitt mixed up with The Bear and did grueling mental gymnastics for too long trying to figure out how any of this is possible.
He's a real surgeon with his chef's knife
Welcome to The Bear-Pitt! [distant roar and sound of clanking chains]
I mixed it up with The Knick and felt like they were missing the minor distinction of over a century
Oh no, not medical jargon and depictions of injuries in a medical show. It must be copyright infringement there's no other explanation for it.
They should probably sue Scrubs next.
Doesn't sound like it's about copyright infringement, just contract law.
The studio negotiated at first but then just went ahead without receiving authorization for a reboot from the estate holding that veto right.
It hasn't got any of the same characters as ER, it shot in the completely different manner, it's not even setting the same country as ER.
I have the copyright on "Stat!" I get $100 everyone someone says it.
This is the start of a dangerous precedent that may allow a circus to sue the court for copyright infringement on the grounds that it's full of clowns.
So does that mean ER could be found too similar to Scrubs or Gray's Anatomy? 🤔
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I always forget that Crichton created ER. He was so prolific.
He also racist asshole.
I can name 10 shows matching those criteria...
It's a standard medical show, that focuses on the ER, like a million other shows. The only connection is Noah Wylie, so he's now prohibited from doing a medical show because it will be considered a spin-off of a show he did decades ago? As a juror, I would find that to be stupid.
Isn't Michael Chriton's widow wealthy enough?
All I'm hearing is "They used the same actor! And it's more medically accurate!" which is about where the similarities end.
Next up Crichton's widow will be sued by the creators of E/R
Even had Clooney (and Mary McDonnell who played Carter's mom in ER)
Having not watched ER, is there anything that makes it unique? As far as I can tell, it's a show about an ER.
TiL Michael Crichton wrote ER.
No they aren’t. These two shows are about as close as Gilligan’s Island and Lost. Both shows are about a group of people lost an island but that’s about it. Same here.
This doesn't surprise me. We watched The Pitt and loved it. We'd heard the about the lawsuit and thought how empty it must be to just be a similar show about doctors in the Emergency Room.
Wanting more we went back and started rewatching ER (which holds up surprisingly well!). Episode after episode of ER we're recognizing nearly exact patient plot points in Season 1 in ER that were depicted in The Pitt. Each time we see one in ER, we're understanding the lawsuit more. It almost feels like the writers of The Pitt watched ER season 1 for its plot points.
How many of those plots have been done in other medical shows?
I don't know. Here's a couple of the very clear examples if you want to search for yourself:
ER:
Season 1 Episode 15 ("Feb. 5, '95"): Dr. Mark Greene treats a terminally ill cancer patient named Grace (or a breast cancer/lymph node cancer patient) who asks him to help her die. Mark increases her morphine dose to relieve her severe pain, which results in her death, sparking an ethical debate among viewers and staff about end-of-life care and palliative dosing.
The Pitt:
Episode 11 ("5:00 P.M.") of The Pitt, (dying terminal cancer patient, Roxie) Dr. Cassie McKay and Dr. Robby increase her morphine dose (invoking the doctrine of double effect, where the primary goal is pain relief even if it risks suppressing respiration) and Roxie passes away while the team deals with other emergency room crises.
ER:
The storyline occurs in Season 1, Episode 20, titled "Full Moon, Saturday Night" (originally aired in April 1995).
In this episode, the ER is chaotic due to a full moon. The nurse Haleh Adams informs Dr. Susan Lewis that a newborn baby was found abandoned inside a trash bag.
The Pitt:
The Pitt spans Season 2, starting with Season 2, Episode 5 (titled "BABY JANE DOE!") Baby Jane Doe is an infant found abandoned in the hospital's waiting room bathroom at 7:30 a.m..
I’m just restarting scrubs with the wife who hadn’t seen it and, already in Season 1 I’ve seen bowel disimpacting and needle draining a stomach with the same comedic spurt effect. I did not jump to the conclusion Pitt copied Scrubs, I assumed this was a universal type experience for med interns akin to other newbie tropes in other profession shows.
Wait, the Librarian is also a doctor?
Dude if you haven't seen The Pitt yet, do yourself a favor and watch it ASAP.
It's some of the best TV currently on. It's early to say, but I've seen some go as far to potentially put it up there with the likes of The Sopranos and The Wire.
Personally, I'll give it another season or two before making a claim like that. But the show is outstanding imo
All these comments, all you ignorant sluts, you're missing the silver lining. If this lawsuit is allowed to go through there's a chance that the 10 million procedural cop dramas that are on the air every goddamn second will all eat each other alive. We could have a paradise. They could all destroy each other. And we would be free. Hell throw in anything that has to do with Emergency Services, same fucking show.
Can we get reality shows to eat themselves too? I mean aren't they all the same?
Speaking of which, someone got me to try and watch the new Wonka game show. Couldn't do it. 2 seconds of action, followed by 2 minutes of each person sitting in a chair saying shit I don't care about. How do people watch this crap?
Youd have to be the Marvin Gaye estate to think that the pitt is plagiarising er.....
The Pitt was supposed to be a sequel and the bearded guy was supposed to play doctor Carter again but they didn't get the rights so they changed his name.
So yes, it was thought of as a reboot but it's not actually a reboot. This lawsuit is idiotic.
(also, The Pitt sux)

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