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Unpopular take: dumb, non-targetted, ads could create revenue for server providers which may increase service quality and availability
It could also alienate your audience when you inevitable shift towards the more profitable side, which is beeing business friendly and not human friendly.
If ads started to come on Lemmy, I would just stop using Lemmy itself and do everything through RSS.
If RSS would not work anymore, I would probably just leave.
Remember: eventually YOU pay for the ads. And ads are ALWAYS targeted , there is no such thing as non-targeted ads.
By targetting, I'm talking about serving different ads to different users. Of course when an ad is created it targets a specific audience but thats not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about collecting user data for the purpose of targeting them with specific ads.
Ie- User is a young male, so show sports betting ads vs this is an ad for a vpn, serve it to everyone
Any kind of algorithm that determines what I see. I get to cultivate my own experience by collecting what I like and muting/blocking what I don’t. I don’t need a script that says, “Oh, I see you stopped for a moment to check the comments on a single post on c/roombaswithfeet. Here’s a nonstop barrage of everything else in that community and all related communities.”
I dislike this only because algorithm has a bad name now. New is an algorithm. Top is an algorithm. Hot and active are both more complex algorithms.
You don't want personalized algorithms or tracking.
I know it's pedantic and words change over time but after taking the class on Algorithms it just bugs me. Any math equation is an algorithm.
I was a data analyst/engineer in the government when we got told our government wanted a list of all algorithms used across government.
We had to seek clarity on that one, in the end it turned out there was media attention around computer decision making in application processes and they were wanting to track that.
I would like to stand up for the real meaning of the word "algorithm" - there's a sorting algorithm which shows you the most recent posts, for example. Indeed, the default "hot" sort is already a more advanced algorithm which uses votes and time to show you what is likely to be "good" as decided by users. It's just not driven by AI or subtle data about how you navigate the page.
I actually think Mastodon could use a better algorithm to help old but interesting posts get a chance since I'm not checking it every minute... But how to do it in a way that doesn't suck is hard. Of course, there's an easy way to avoid it becoming a dark pattern, which is to keep it fully optional.
I think you mean hidden or secretive algorithms with malicious agendas and dark patterns like how the corporate social media systems work. Yes, those would suck.
I like the current list of algorithm options that work as described.
A 1:1 redesign that copies New Reddit.
I don't see how one more shitty frontend for lemmy would ruin anything. Just add it to the pile.
If it became mandatory, I feel like it kinda would actually.
But you could only do that on the instance level, so people could just switch or setup their own instance that uses a different frontend. There is no way to force a specific UI on all of lemmy.
Round corners, purple background, you know, "new" design.
A button which makes a random person on the planet paralyzed.
A one-time button for only one person at a time. If you press it, someone you don't know will die, but you will receive ten million dollars.
Then the button moves on to the next person. Someone you don't know.
[Ominous music]
That would fast lead to humanity extinction. There are also people risking a 50/50 chance
I'm not an authority on the story, but I interpreted it to mean that those who reject the button/refuse to press it are not eligible to be killed by it. The first person to use the button might kill a random person (although I like to think that it just doesn't take a life then), but after that, it just kills the previous button presser.
Ahhh, got it. Well then someone would press the button and use as much of his money as needed to find the next person that is supposed to press it. And right in the moment kills this person and stops the game forever.
Still, would be a really terrible feature
The app kicks you in the balls every time you scroll past a post without reading it.
Karma, a full JavaScript interface that is flashy, and an AI auto moderator. We must imitate reddit if we want to destroy Lemmy properly /s
Dick pic sharing button, believe it or not was shot down.
Embedded MIDIs
I was there, Gandalf. My speakers still forgotten near full volume from my earlier Napster binge.
*Actually I remember one single time this was awesome.
I was into this webcomic called Life of Riley, and it was finally hitting the series climax where the main zeitgeist had broken free from Lillith's mind control and turned on her releasing a burst of his aura at her with the sfx noise, "SHA!"
And on that single strip they embedded Initial D's crazy for love just right so that just as you're reading that panel (probably hopefully), the song goes "SHA!" and starts building to its crescendo as the fight is ramping up.
Shit was fire
Mbin has karma, so while not Lemmy specifically, it does exist on the fediverse. So karma farmers are possible here.
Why do you think so? I don’t believe it has such an impact. Karma is nice for some people because of whatever reasons they have and everyone else just don’t care about it.
Only impact I can see is communities requiring Karma to post. But that shouldn’t be too much of an issue for most users.
well because of farmming
They can already do that by populating an account with regular comments over time.
And who cares? You can’t buy anything with it, so let them farm it. If they are successful it means they post things people upvote/like. Could be worse for the community
Karma systems invalidate someone's way of thinking. You may not realize how much people will say or do anything to feel better about themselves seeing a stupid number go up. And the more meaningless points that a user has, they get a god complex by thinking they can say or do no wrong.
A lot of the people I've confronted on this platform and in the past, are assholes with lots of points.
I don't see the point in karma systems at all. It isn't about making posts the most seen. It's about people chasing validity.
As long as the karma isn’t linked to any decision making power, how would it influence me if someone feels like a god and becomes an asshole? Assholes are everywhere with and without karma. And being an asshole with lots of karma fast leads to losing all of it again through downvotes.
I couldn’t care less about karma, but if it makes someone happy or more attached to use PieFed/Lemmy, go for it.
Cool, cool.
Enough people do care and attribute value that it leads to negative outcomes. On reddit having higher karma numbers was treated as a user being 'worth more' for decisions. After a decade or so not having karma on a new account led to negative experience for new users by being gated out of popular communities until they farmed some karma.
Yeah, but you didn’t answered my question. How would it affect me without being linked to such restrictions?
However, I can see a point communities trying to set a low limit to decrease spamming a little bit. And I also can see communities that would like to have people involved in comments first before they are allowed to post. Sure, most communities don’t need such a rule, but (community-based) karma could be a way to make something like that easily achievable.
The good part compared to Reddit is: in Fediverse its way easier to copy a popular community. CommunityXY@piefed.world requires Karma now to post and you don’t like this rule? Start communityXY@piefed.zip without that rule and let the people decide what they prefer.
Why add something that provides no benefit but requires workarounds if people misuse it?

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