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[–] 133 points 3 weeks ago (70 children)

I genuinely don't even know who that demonstration was for other than 12-year-olds. None of these cars have any practical or road applications. Where are you going to need to flip your cap off of a ramp or over some cars? It's so fucking stupid.

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  • [–] 71 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

    Okay, I know I could look this up indvidually, but for those of us who missed it, what happened today?

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  • [–] 130 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    They demoed a car that was loaded with a shit load of compressed gas, then they had it do a kick flip over a line of cars and a semi truck. They also drove it up a massive inverted ramp and then had it flip over and land smoothly.

    Looked cool as hell, but has absolutely no practical purpose other than allowing Nazi Musk to get headlines saying they have a flying car.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Supercars in general have no practical purpose, and people buy them. Being cool is the entire sales pitch.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Maybe this has been explained, but how was the car able to drive upside-down before the thrusters had been activated? It's not like it was going fast enough for its momentum to hold it there.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I saw something about suction using a vacuum on the bottom. Not sure how the hell that could hold up a heavy car.

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  • [–] 37 points 3 weeks ago

    They did a demo of the new roadster model; they've strapped a suction fan and HPA thrusters to it so it can do 0 to 60mph in under a second, drive up walls, perform a running jump over a semi-truck without a ramp, spin and do a standing flip.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago

    Elmo faked a tech demo showing a new car that can drive upside down thanks to vacuum suction and can fly thanks to compressed air rockets.

    Fine print: the car that goes on sale is not able to do that, only a very limited run that is sold to select customers at an unknown price (read: they don't sell it)

    It's like if a robot company does a tech demo where a dancing robot is actually a human wearing a costume, or a bartending robot is actually remotely controlled by a human with a VR headset

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
  • [–] 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    The frothing, uncritical comments from Musk stans on that video are insane. I hope they're mostly bots and don't represent real humans - nobody is acknowledging how impractical, unsafe, or illegal any of these moves are, nor how it's a just a stunt that will never reach real-world production or on-road use.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    Wow it watches like The Onion News Network, especially towards the end.

    Looks like they failed to make Roadster have any impressive parameters so they mounted an air jet to cheat, and then get carried away when preparing a demo.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 weeks ago (34 children)

    Very stupid investors?

    EV sales are flat or shrinking in the US (but growing extremely quickly outside the US, partially thanks to the Hormuz situation). Tesla's sales are flat. He's doing anything possible to show that Tesla has a future.

    So, he basically told his talented engineers to take the stabilizing parts of a SpaceX rocket, put them in the body of a car, and pretended that what was demoed is actually vaguely related to something people might be able to buy at some point.

    There isn't a chance that a vehicle with those kinds of thrusters would ever be road legal. You're basically driving a pretty large bomb around. You crash that vehicle and you don't just kill yourself, you kill everybody within a pretty large blast radius.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    There isn't a chance that a vehicle with those kinds of thrusters would ever be road legal

    Tesla sold a car for years with no way to open the back seat doors in the event of an emergency.

    US regulators allow Tesla to do anything.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

    There is a way. Not practical, but if you pry off the speaker cover, there is a release cable.

    I blame regulators.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    The Model X had it under a speaker cover. The model 3 didn't have it listed in the user manual. Fans discovered under a rubber door pocket cover, you could remove a flushed mounted plastic tab and fish out a pull wire to open the door.

    It wasn't until 2024 that Model 3's got a door release.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

    Strange. Maybe it's a Europe thing, but my 2020(?) M3 has a little mechanical lever you can pull to open.

    E: both front and back like nop'a 2018 model 3 in the response below

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    In the front seats, right? Everyone (even I agree rightfully so) got mad about the rear passengers not having one.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    My 2018 has them on the front and rear. I love that car. I wish Elon want a Nazi because I wouldn't have the shit EV I bought when my wife took over the Tesla.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Here is a German YouTuber showing how you should add emergency pulls to the model 3 because it doesn't have them.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/QFLq7-wIGCo?is=xzWnVqoox6WpqGrE

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Crazy, but that is also not a 3/Y, probably an X, maybe an S? The trunk of the 3/Y doesn't open into the cabin.

    Agreed it is/would be stupid to make a car like that. But my 3 is the best car I have ever driven.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    You are misremembering.

    Here are two more German videos specifically labeled Model 3.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/4_nlw-hk-8A?is=XE5xl9olG1h1zLvy

    https://youtu.be/itiE8rhQSng?is=xtkl6YXCelQ54Cmu

    There is no manual rear door release on the door handle like the front doors have.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Wow you are absolutely right, no emergency release in the back. I had to actually go touch it.

    I apologize for my ignorance, thank you for forcing me to know, I will figure out how to add these release handles.

    Still the best car I have ever driven. Fucking Nazi ruins everything.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I think you are misremembering. I triple checked and there is nothing in the German Manual for rear door release in a 2020 Model 3.

    Here is a German YouTuber showing how you can make your Tesla safer by adding a pull to the hidden door release.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/QFLq7-wIGCo

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    I've been planning to go down to the basement where the car lives to check, but haven't been that way yet. I'll let you know. I guess it's possible that I just assumed the back would be like the front because why the fuck wouldn't it be. But then again, Elon.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

    It’s a shame because my wife and I are saving up for an EV but I’m worried by the time we’re ready the models won’t be there. They’re already cutting the Hyundai Ioniq 6. Our top contender.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Companies are scrambling to start making more hybrids and EVs now with gas prices so high and EVs in such high demand.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Y'know if they hadn't killed off all of their fuel efficient sedan models they'd have a fuel efficient small car to offer the people shocked by gas prices...

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    People really weren't buying those though. It's a hot take, but I think they made the right choice on that one. They followed it up with the wrong choice to not develop hybrid wagons/cross overs. I don't think anyone saw the return of the minivan.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    People stopped buying sedans because the car industry made a concerted effort to demarket them. They've been pushing SUVs for nearly 30 years, trying really hard to get people to stop buying sedans and were too successful. Now there's a fuel crisis and no sedans in production (from American brands at least) so the manufacturers are getting caught with their pants down again

    I do wonder if the fleet market is sufficient to keep both sedans and vans in production, since each makes a very competent fleet vehicle platform for different usecases, see the venerable Crown Victoria for example

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I'm not sure. I think they were reacting to buyers, not the other way around. I remember the late 90s and early 2000s. SUVs and crossovers were relatively new and exploding in popularity. Partly as a back lash against the "soccer mom" minivan stereotype. I never liked them, but I also never liked sedans. I'm definitely a wagon guy. It's sad that they all became crossovers.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    The last 5-10 years have been primarily reacting to buyers (and choosing not to market sedans more) but there was a specific concerted push to change market opinions toward SUVs and SUV-like vehicles, so I'm inclined to instead blame marketing with a healthy sprinkling of availability.

    The last time I bought a sedan I really had to go out of my way to find the only one on the lot that happened to be in my budget and in my desired age/mileage/mechanical shape, and I happened to test drive all 5 sedans that they had on that lot. If I were indifferent towards the body/chasis style I probably never would've looked at the sedans just by pure math of there being easily a hundred or more SUVs, a smattering of trucks and vans and that was about it

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  • [–] -4 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)
  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    Don't be a prick dude. The person mentioned having a wife, that might include kids, and at least they're looking into getting an EV instead of a 4 door short bed V8 pickup truck that will never see a day of work. Pick better targets

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    It does include kids. And the in-laws are a highway away.

    I don’t drive daily to work and use public transit and walk when I can, but we do every now and then need to drive somewhere. The E-Bike doesn’t work there.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Are you fucking kidding?

    Targets? I lightheartedly suggest someone get an e-bike, and suddenly you think they're a "target"?

    The fact that someone has a wife means that they can't buy an e-bike on the off chance that they might have kids?

    Fuck, man. What the hell is wrong with you? What the hell is wrong with your country. People are so car-brained that merely light-heartedly suggesting an e-bike is considered an attack? You have some serious fucking issues.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I have an e-bike adapted for carrying 2 kids that I use daily for kindergarten commute. Can't recommend it enough. I live in Belgium though.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Even if they don't replace a car, they're great vehicles. They're fun to ride, you rarely have to worry about traffic jams, they're cheap to operate, and you can do a lot of your own maintenance.

    Does yours have seats on the back? A trailer? I've seen a variety of solutions for transporting kids. The trailer is the solution I see most often, and it looks like the most luxurious option for the kids. They often look like they're some aristocrat being carried on a palanquin, sprawled out and enjoying the ride.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I mean, for me they effectively replace the car. We own one, but since we have the e-bike, I don't drive at all. I use the trailer for shopping if needed. And yes, we used the trailer + the small seat behind my seat. Basically all three kids could ride with me, but the battery depletes fast and I am not sure about the general strain put on the bike's structure with so much weight. The bike is not technically ours but leased from the company my wife works at. In Belgium, at some point the taxes get so high that people choose untaxed benefits at work (like a bike leasing or vouchers, even a company car) instead of salary hikes. We now own a second e-bike with two separate seats so we can have family trips. We'll see how it works. To clarify: I do NOT believe that you can always replace a car with an e-bike. But in the rather wealthy area where we live, the bike infrastructure is great and everything is very walkable, so it is possible to greatly reduce your reliance on cars. The Netherlands are far superior to Belgium in this respect.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    There might be some niche situation where it's helpful but that's not even relevant because there's no way it would be legal on public roads in most places. I also strongly doubt that it would be able to do it safely and compensate for different weight distribution of the vehicle with different passengers and such.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I doubt they'd be able to even sit still safely, that amount of compressed air sitting in the undercarriage is much more dangerous than even the 10 gallons of gas sitting in a car.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    That's what I thought, the pressure vessels to get lift for a heavy electric car for just one second is a bomb extremely sensitive to crashes.

    That could not be legal on the roads.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    I genuinely can't wait for a fat cat to buy one of these, try and do the flip with him in the driver's seat, it partially roll, end up careening sideways into the side of a building, and finishing with a lithium grilled pancaked executive 😙 👌

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Then there's the "range issue" of being able to do that maybe a few times, at best, for a few seconds. Cool demo, but you'd think just a revamped Roadster would be enough. Do it with a Cybertruck without showering everyone with shrapnel and I might be impressed.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    It is actually a pretty cool stunt. Completely pointless from a commercial point of view, of course. But Tesla has been disconnected from market realities for a long time, so that's just in character.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Right, if they could build a race track and have a bunch of these in a race, that might actually be kinda cool. I see no other reason for this.

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  • [–] 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

    Apparently their Q3 earnings report comes out next week, so I guess they tried wheeling out the vaporware car to make number go up before whatever's in that earnings report hits?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I was wondering why they're announcing something for 2028 production.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    it was originally supposed to come out in 2020. But they've been taking $50,000 reservations for it since 2017. So who knows if it'll exist in 2028

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  • [–] 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    As soon as I saw this thing boost forward using rocket thrust both my bf and I said "if this is ever on the road everyone near this thing dies."

    Because some fucking brain dead idiot is going to rocket boost, kill himself from the speed, everyone behind him from the backblast, and everyone in front of him from the giant expensive bullet that was just created.

    This is never going to get on the roads, and if it does, it'll be only for police and military, if it's not relegated to an expensive toy for the ultra rich they can't even drive on the road.

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  • [–] 71 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

    Tesla drivers I see fall into 3 categories:

    • 2017 or older: fair enough, and credit for moving to EVs so early!
    • 2018-2023: er, Elon seems like kind of a twat. Are you sure? The whole Thai cave thing? But, you know, some benefit of the doubt.
    • 2024+: You are supporting a literal Nazi.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

    That is not quite true though. While they indeed still make (2) good car models there are alternatives on the market that can rival them (eg Kia EV4 or Renault Scenic E-tech 89kWh) and those alternatives can do so while actually having real buttons, that you don't have to take off the eyes from the road just because you want to adjust the A/C or whatever. If you really wanted to leave Tesla, you could. That said, I don't see the point in selling a perfectly good car in working condition for such reasons. What difference does it make if someone else is driving it and if no one is driving it it is a waste of resources.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    The lack of real buttons is hardly the problem with those vehicles. Maybe for some/many people but I find that argument excessively nit-picky. You can adjust temperature perfectly fine in a Tesla without looking. Not that I normally need to touch it at all.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    That argument carries enough weight that EURONCAP safety rating requires physical buttons for key features:

    "Under the Safe Driving section of Euro NCAP’s safety rating, the key driving controls – indicators, windscreen wipers and washer, hazard warning lights, horn and eCall emergency button – should be operated by a direct physical input rather than hidden within a menu on a touchscreen. "

    https://www.euroncap.com/press-media/buttons-are-back-for-basic-functions-euro-ncap-confirms-in-testing/

    The "it doesn't effect me" crowd is of the same kind that says, that controlling a phone during driving, doesn't effect them or that they can drive just as safe after non-excessive alcohol consumption.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I bought my Tesla in 2022. After 4 years with it, the lack of real buttons and burying controls under touchscreen menus is the primary reason why I’ll never buy another Tesla. When I do replace my Tesla it will be with another EV, but not a Tesla EV.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    It seems Chinese vendours are almost as bad as Tesla in this regard. However, European (maybe also South Koreans, I don't know) largely coming back to physical controls for key features (and also real haptic buttons, not cheapo-touch buttons) though.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    So what? Most people aren't driving a Ferrari either. Just get a normal car instead.

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