Unfortunately, Congress will end up doing whatever its paid to do.

Yeah…no. This is going to the Supreme Court and there’s zero chance their right wing, Trump-choad-gargling asses don’t rule in favor of AI companies.

It’s almost like rules are just made up

Not really. We had collage and training any kind of AI was fine before all this. There's blood in the water and copyright companies can smell it.

OpenAI is happy to give them a piece of the pie if that means they are the only ones allowed to sell it to consumers.

You are right about the penalty being pennys compared to their profits. It's not meant to punish them but help them build a moat, the one that got destroyed by China a few months ago.

Agreed... the problem is that the damage is already done and there's no way to really make it right to the copyright holders so mandating that all AI models and their weights should be treated as public domain would at least help a bit.

AI companies are burning money pits... don't make me the tax payer the patsy who pays off the unimaginable debts of AI companies.

The AI isn’t very useful, that’s a problem. The government will make them public, then the public will own their huge dept. the oligarchs will receive golden parachutes in the form of a buyout and we will get stuck with the bill. Fuck that, make the technofeudalists liquidate at reasonable prices. Give people their homes back. Make them pay to supply clean water everywhere an open-loop DC was constructed. Jail them for terrorism after polluting our skies and attempting to corner the market on information in order to control the populace.

Don't you mean "could be the reasoning"? AI companies aren't profitable, they would want to be "publicly owned" so that everyone else will be holding their bags. They're already trying to hedge it into everyone's retirement funds etc. It would not be in our best interests to be even more exposed to this.

Best case scenario but that's not the one we will be getting.

Copyright juggernauts and data brokers, the ones that actually own all the data like Reddit and universal records, will get paid.

Open weight models won't be allowed in business contexts or to be served online, OpenAI and company get a fat monopoly which suits them.

People are cheering for their own doom. The handful of big AI company are going to end up owning a solid chunk of the economy. It's basically going to be an AI tax.

You will be replaced by an agent, OpenAI will only sell them to your employer in bulk at a stupid price so you can't turn around and compete. That bulk price per agent will still be cheaper than your monthly wage.

Find me one politician that even mentioned forcing these models public. It's a fantasy.

Thanks for the hint.

I think LLM code output is already copyleft because non-humans legally can not hold copyrights.

For those (like me) who don't know what Betteridge's Law of Headlines is: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines

AI is way more out of control than copyright.

There's simply no way to justify what the AI compies have been doing. As that one Microsoft exec said, it's the "largest theft of labor" in modern history

I hate them too but AI is more of a threat to all of us. Any chance at stopping the madness is good enough for me.

Wouldn’t be funny if disneys fuckery did in AI?

As long as we live under capitalism, copyright protects small artists, writers, and creators as much as it protects large shitty corporations who weaponize it.

I’d love to be rid of all intellectual property, but we have a lot to fix before that can become reality without punishing people who rely on it.

I’m down with some huge reforms though.

Only in the US. EU has teeth and occasionally uses them.

This is why the court MUST be packed. FDR threatened to do it 90 years ago, and the Dems better do it this time or else face another Trump again.

It very much is not. It is in effect until the end of the United States. This will be long before most of us die.

The future will be getting very bad very fast and most nation states will collapse in a few decades.

So there's that I guess.

If it's any comfort, there's a good chance the sunlight won't be reaching the suface of the earth for much of 2027, so we won't be alive for too much longer.

I’d kinda prefer both lose…

I want both sides to lose and for it to really hurt.

So they take one extra step. Create a forum. Have a different company mine all the data and repost it to the forum. Then the AI company can mine the forum.

A rule like “forums are ok” is a goatse-sized gaping loophole.

I still see a future where we end up with legislation that forces royalties from AI-gen materials, which are funneled directly into the pockets of large corporate copyright holders. Meanwhile private individuals will get nothing while also not being allowed to use these tools anymore.

Not to be a downer about it, but this means they will pay a small fee in the large scheme of things, allowed to keep their products up and running and continue to profit off the theft of literally everything, and prevent others from creating new models. Basicially they can steal the whole library of Alexandria and lock away the key, but Disney wants to see my ass in a federal prison with a life sentence if I pirate a shitty 360p vhs quality torrent of the little mermaid.

If we where smart we would make it so if you are caught using a model that was trained off of stolen work the fine doubles each time. So the first time Claude or chattpt get a fine its only 25k, but the longer they keep it up and running the more it quickly exponentially grows. It doesn't take that many instances before it becomes a unobtainable dollar value.

This ensures everyone has to play by the rules and that if we had smaller third parties trying to make models by the rules and ethically then they have a fighting chance too. Also those businesses would likely be able to actually stand on their own two feet because it would be hyper specialized fields, or research funded through charity. Likely medical groups researching cancer, or something in robotics where they actually have a goal to achieve that's not just absorbing all capitol and building giant monoliths (data centers) for wealth and control.