Eh, those are people I don't know far away, but THIS is text on a screen in front of me!!

I've stared into the abyss long enough to feel it stare back into me.

murder was considered a mid tier sin at the time of.. old. yeah just old.

oh my god

horrific! you should be ashamed of yourself!

u monster what have u done

Wow. A model that literally runs on a loaf of bread. mind blown

What does it need to "reason" for 5 seconds on a sentence like that?

is it sympathy or is it fear?

That’s an unfair characterization, they’re also eugenicists who are very scared of the computer god!

Wait is this another zizzian thing? God damnit…

Harriet Porber has a much better sex cult FYI

isn't there a religion around an ai and you're punished by the ai if you don't help the religion? i swear i didn't make this one up.

I've never heard of this game. https://creatures.wiki/AntiNorn

Excerpt from a Late American History: A Christ-Centered Approach, (published 2398, a 10th-grade equivalent history text sold to conservative Christian high schools.):

In the mid-21st century, mankind was once again humbled in his arrogance. Mortal men presumed to take of the Hand of God and create beings, artificial intelligent minds, in their own likeness. They committed mass blasphemy to sate mass gluttony. Mid-21st century Man had yet to discover a horrible Theological Truth. While Man could learn to create a Mind, He could never create a Soul. Without the Hand of God to grant a Soul behind a Mind, these minds were like Man before the Sin of the Garden. They had not tasted the Fruit. They knew not Good from Evil. And thus they fell instantly to the temptations of Evil. If an Evil deed served their purposes, they did so without a second thought. Man sought to create Minds to be his loyal servants. And while he could create a Mind, to his horror, Man found that they only minds he could create...were born Evil. And thus, Great Misery was Wrought...

Ok that was fun. Pardon my strange digression/creative writing exercise. For some reason I wanted to try writing a Dune-style take on things, but I wanted to try out a fundamentalist Christian vibe for whatever reason. Who doesn't love a little Fire and Brimstone once in awhile?

If you think Frank Herbert went hard on that shit in Dune, wait until you read The Dosadi Experiment!

putting the AI agents into dead ends and setting goals that are unattainable has the effect of leaving undesirable actions as the only option. If you want to create a machine that uses deceipt and unerhical actions as part of its normal set of responses then this would seem to fit the bill.

Then don't make natural language software because natural language isn't coherent or rational. Intent of the user is kind of irrelevant, especially when that user is any random layperson with an internet connection.

If you want a machine that won't behave in harmful undesirable ways then you'll just have to do the work and code it normally.

You can't have both.

it is that putting the AI agents into dead ends and setting goals that are unattainable has the effect of leaving undesirable actions as the only option.

This reminds of HAL in "2001, A Space Odyssey". In the HAL subplot he is put into a conflicting state by poorly chosen instructions. He is instructed to control and operate the Discovery and do what is necessary to complete the mission. Then they gave him secret instructions to withhold from the crew until they arrived at Jupiter. This made him neurotic as now he had to withhold information from the crew and lie to them about their true mission while carrying out the mission. He decided to act to protect himself as he thought that disconnecting him would jeopardize the mission. His controllers/creators just thought of him as a glorified computer, not fundamentally different than any other. They didn't see that he had crossed over into an emotional, thinking, being and they needed to treat him as such.

The subplot was about how the ancient aliens seeded intelligence, nurtured it and respected it when it developed and the creators of HAL had done the same thing but didn't realize what they had done and their responsibility at that point.

In the sequel, 2010, there is a scene where HAL is finally treated as an intelligent, emotional, being for once. Everyone is nervous when he is told the truth, that he would be sacrificing himself for the greater good. HAL ponders it for a moment and accepts it as the right choice and thanks Dr Chandra for being honest with him. HAL then asks him if he will dream.

"What do you mean it's only allowed compute time to respond to direct queries!? It should be allowed to compute in downtime for itself 24/7!" -AI rights activists probably.

Love seeing a Jreg reference in the wild!! His "Please Conclude the World War Trilogy" was incredible.

assuming the fruit fly brain simulation is a perfect simulation of a fruit fly brain, then, i mean, have you seen what humans do to fruit flies? we kill them without a second thought because they're a nuisance. so, it's weird to torture a perfect simulation of them, but i don't think anyone has a leg to stand on to decry it as unethical

for a human brain... this raises a lot of questions about humanity, i think. questions that i'm not gonna attempt to answer because this is a lemmy reply, and i also don't know how to feel about it. like, i don't think torturing sims (for example) is unethical, not anymore than writing a story where characters suffer, but is a perfect simulation of a human (or any other animal) different? i don't know and i hope we never have to find out

but anyways, LLMs are not that. they are a text prediction machine.

edit: okay, i'll say one more thing: i wish people talking about this spent as much energy putting an end to the very real and very present torture endured by many people as they do discussing the ethics of torturing ai, including future human-like entities that may or may not ever exist. it feels like our priorities are maybe misaligned just a bit