"Because of tariffs, we are taking in hundreds of billions of dollars of profits," he said. "It's one of the reasons I can offer, if Republicans win the House and the Senate, $5,000 to every adult. And we can do it and the Democrats can't, because the Democrats don't have any income, and they're gonna drive us in[to] a depression. They won't have any money."

Bitch you already promised us a tariff refund check.

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[+] 138 points 1 month ago (14 children)
  • [–] 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It's also against the law to rape children but here we are...

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Don't shoot the messenger. Just paraphrasing the analysis done by Legal Eagle.

    So, technically speaking, this isnt actually illegal. It is illegal to pay someone in exchange for voting a specific way. As in, if you vote for X, I'll pay you money. But it is not illegal to suggest you will implement a policy, including rewarding cash/a cash value item to everyone, in exchange for an outcome. If he offered only to pay republican voters, he would be buying votes. But since he is offering to pay everyone, regardless of how they voted, for the election outcome he wants, that is not actually illegal. In fact it has been litigated and protected by the SCOTUS before. It is not dissimilar in legal terms from campaign promises like "if I win, I'll cut your taxes by X%." Or "Vote for me if you want a Universal Basic Income." That too is a promise of monetary reward, independent of your vote, in exchange for an election outcome. And you hear stuff like that all the time.

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  • [–] 70 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    "They're going to drive us into a depression"

    ...Unlike the depression that's already forming because of his fucking stupid and disastrous economic policies?

    Yeah, I'll take my chances with the party that has consistently brought economic stability, rather than the party that is ruining the economy (again) and flagrantly trying to buy votes (after they've already made similar promises and failed to deliver).

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    The only party that actually reduces or has ever done away with deficits to the point of surplus, and the only party that has done so nearly every time elected, with the exception of those inheriting a pandemic and a nation with an economy crashing thanks to it.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Bro, tariffs are paid by us.

    You’re promising to give us our money back? Like you can do that? Maybe just fucking do it right now?

    Nobody should vote for republicans this guy screws everyone over all the time. If republicans win they will tariff harder and take even more away because their policy approach is fuck you that’s why.

    But hey maybe we’ll get some more asshole racist ai video entertainment or whatever.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago

    Don't forget the massive chunk he added to the national debt. He stole America's wallet, ran up the credit card, and now expects forgive and forget because he handed back $5.

    And the sad thing is, it'll work on a sizable chunk of the US electorate.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Yes, tariffs are paid by you, but do you believe that someone stupid enough to vote for the orange-haired monkey would understands this? For them, the farm shop or Walmart just raised prices because things got more expensive.

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  • [–] 94 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    "Because of tariffs, we are taking in hundreds of billions of dollars of profits," he said. "It's one of the reasons I can offer, if Republicans win the House and the Senate, $5,000 to every adult. And we can do it and the Democrats can't, because the Democrats don't have any income, and they're gonna drive us in[to] a depression. They won't have any money."

    His so-called logic is so bad it makes my head hurt.

    1. You already control both chambers. You could pass it now if it wasn't an obvious bribe to get people to vote for your party.
    2. Nothing about the Dems winning midterms stops the tariffs being in place. Literally your entire legal argument is that you don't need Congress to approve them, so logically the Dems controlling Congress wouldn't stop them if that was true. So they'd still have the money.

    How do people actually fall for this shit? How?!

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  • [–] 74 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Measles have returned because people believe vaccines cause autism. That's your answer.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Will this be the first infectious disease to be both eradicated and reintroduced? Damn, we're good.

    Anybody know where we can get ahold of some small pox? /s

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  • [–] [S] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Oh we have us an optimist here. We aren't even lucky enough to have a president Dwayne Elizando Mountain Dew Camacho.

    Idiocracy would be a step up. We are in a full-on kakistocracy.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    At least in that fictional narrative they knew enough to reward someone smarter than them.

    The way it typically works is to have the dumbest declare that their vibes overrule expertise.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    How do people actually fall for this shit? How?!

    Many people "Reason" emotionally. The words don't matter so much as the feelings.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    It's like the people going on vibes toward the end of 2024 and deciding that voting for donnie would improve their lot. Even though virtually every economic indicator was pointed in the right direction at that point.

    Meanwhile, lots of the chattering class kept flogging anyone pointing this out, saying it negated people's feelings to point out the facts of an economy that was on the right track.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Also, Dems winning does not make this supposed money go away. If they are taking in these "hundreds of billions", that belongs to the government, not the Republicans.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Exactly. He cannot grasp the idea of the public trust. In his blind that's his money, he stole it so it's his to do what he wants with.

    Never mind that actual tariff revenues are a tiny fraction of the 1.3Tn this deranged bribe scheme would cost.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Ignoring everything else wrong with this, it's government money. If it actually existed it wouldn't just vanish when a democrat gets elected.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I mean, if it were from tariffs it just might because Democrats would actually follow the law and stop the tariffs and refund the illegally collected money. Unfortunately that would go back to businesses not individuals.

    Although Trump was already ordered to pay back the money so either he ignored the courts or the money already doesn't exist.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    "Because of tariffs, we are taking in hundreds of billions of dollars of profits," he said. "It's one of the reasons I can offer, if Republicans win the House and the Senate, $5,000 to every adult. And we can do it and the Democrats can't, because the Democrats don't have any income, and they're gonna drive us in[to] a depression. They won't have any money."

    He's flat out saying he considers the tarrif money "his" if a Republican government has access to it but a democratic government wouldn't...

    And obviously ignoring that the "profits" are from a tax on Americans buying shit

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    We're already in a recession you dumb fuck

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    "Because of tariffs taxes, I think I can bribe the stupider among you with your own fucking money."

    --donnie dumb dumb

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Impose tariffs, make all of us pay it, then dangle some refund in front of your poor white trash voters to get them to vote again.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Hey, c'mon… They can't read. They aren't curious. They have no intellectual ability. Give 'em a break for being stupid fucking morons who condemned us to this shit, y'know?

    Sarcasm. Fuck those people. I enjoy knowing that they keep getting fucked by this admin as much (or harder) as the rest of us. I only wish we didn't have to suffer with them.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This statement is literally unconstitutional. Plainly, unambiguously, no mask, no nuance, just unconstitutional.

    The Treasury handles all of this accounting and congress directs spending. The Executive does not just get to use revenue received from its activities as a slush fund. Basically all of the US Government's revenue is collected by agencies under the Executive. Claiming that they can simply take tariff revenue and turn it into dividend checks is the exact same constitutional argument that he could take IRS revenue and turn it into Bitcoin.

    It's so plainly illegal, and it demonstrates exactly why the current SCOTUS obsession with extremely strict standing requirements is a flawed concept.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    It’s so plainly illegal, and it demonstrates exactly why the current SCOTUS obsession with extremely strict standing requirements is a flawed concept blatantly shameless, corrupt, depraved, and traitorous support for dictatorship.

    FTFY.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    He 100% thinks he gets to keep the tariff money.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    I know that this is all Trump's blowhard bullshit, but the logic (and we know there isn't any) could easily be: If we have the money, and it's not his money, but money made from tariffs, then there's nothing to stop the Democrats from also giving everyone a $5000 check...

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    So, here’s the deal….

    Everyone here can opine on how ludicrous this is, agree with one another about how fucking stupid he is, and circlejerk over how annoying it is that he does this dumb shit-

    But he does it because he knows people are going to believe it. It’s not about wether or not he will make good on the promise- it’s only about getting the idiots to dance when he commands them to.

    He is buying votes with our money, and it’s going to work like a fucking charm.

    Think of it like this:

    You know how during trials, some lawyers will say shit that is objectionable, and then stricken from the record? This is entirely on purpose. The jury can’t “unhear” it. Once it’s said, it’s done and it’s effect is now in play.

    So, the moment that vapid disgusting bag of child-raping gelatinous flesh opened his shithole of a mouth, all the mentally challenged minions that fall at his feet bought it at a premium.

    He’s not paying them shit. But they believe he will and as a result, will do exactly as he says.

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    “Profits.” what a POS.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    It's the government's money, not republican's money. A different party inherits the government and therefore can do what you're proposing. They'd be in the same situation.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Ah yes tariffs, the Republicans personal revenue stream cumulating in a very accessible slush fund to burn whatever way that specific party wishes, up to and including bribing voters.

    Makes me wonder why no one else has ever thought of this? Oh, because it's not a political loophole, just blatantly fucking illegal.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    LOL somehow only Republicans are capable of this because Democrats bad.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Aside from it being false, that's not at all how you stimulate an economy. But he's never been good at growing a business, so...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    $5k sounds awesome as an incentive to let you murder people and grift and destroy everything. Where do I sign up?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    It's a rambling of a senile old man, why the media is reporting that instead of ignoring it.

    You say "yes yes", nod and put away the cameras...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Next thing you know, only select people will receive the money and he’ll complain about who is technically considered an adult.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Prediction market odds are 5% for this happening. You can double your $5k, by just betting $250 on it, if you believe.

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    I’m going to buy soooooo much iced coffee, eat hot chip, and lie

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Donald Trump Gives Update on $5,000 Dividend Promise

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Mmmmm those sweet sweet taxes for profit

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Since the tariffs are a tax on American people purchasing things, and since rich people purchase more things, and the promise is to pay every person the same amount, this is classic socialist wealth redistribution.

    I mean, it would be, if it ever came to pass.

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    [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    So, because they're supposedly bringing in hundreds of billions of dollars from his tariffs...he's going to pay out 1.3 trillion to everyone in the country?

    Aside from the obvious problem with adding that much more to the debt, his math doesn't even math.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    The amount promised is the amount Wayne and Garth each got for selling their show to pralines and dick.

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