When demand goes up, the price goes up.

When demand goes down, the price goes up.

Making those little toys of a bird that drinks water.

It is decided.

Or turn it into a nice balsamico. Better profit margin than ethanol which can be made from way cheaper ingredients.

What is this? Civilization? JK

Something tells me that younger generations simply don't give a shit, it maybe have been a luxury for older generations.

I'll be honest in high school or college we all would buy the cheapest shit. (millennial). As in the two gallon jugs on the bottom of the shelf. Oh boy the hangovers were intense. And maybe I can't really tell much of a difference, but I remember I had a seven course paired with wine. All I could think was, yep tastes like wine and sloshed it down and ate the food.

Yeah they could trick the consumer in selling under a decoy name like… wait a minute

Mad Dog 20/26

Wine is like $2-5 a bottle in Europe and they also sell more of it there lol

I saw a lot of really good wine on steep discount recently at Fred Meyer in wa state.

I was very suspicious, bought a bottle, and it was legit.

Maybe people are moving wine at lower price points into markets that don’t normally overlap to move product while minimizing brand damage?

It’s America wine. Famous for the Californian “Two Buck Chuck”. On the other hand, the Europeans I know complain that wine in the US is overpriced and most of the domestic market is too sweet.

That’s fundamentally missing the problem- sales of wine are down 1/5. They have a supply chain that isn’t moving. If you offer cheaper wine you likely won’t move enough more to make up the shortfall and the costs of production/storage ect.

Nah, you're fine. Most American farmers voted for Trump anyway.

wine grapes are different varieties than eating grapes. Just like cider apples.

No need to apologize. The whole American farming industry needs a redo anyway.

That was one factor. It is more about the general hostility and aggression the US has shown toward Canada.

Also because the US Government is trying to destroy our country by any means. They still threaten to annex Canada, call our Prime Minister "Governor", claim Canada isn't a real country, interfere with our politics and elections, support Alberta and Quebec separatists, and do their best to crush our economy. Then they whine that we're being mean to them. It doesn't make us very inclined to send our money to the USA, especially when we can just buy Canadian wine instead.

The boycott was because of a threat to annex Canada, repeatedly by the US Ambassador Hoeskra, who is an even bigger asshole than Trump, if that were even possible.

No. It's because of the annexation threats.

It was because of the bullying

Trump implemented tarrifs the last time he was President as well, the difference being that he wasn't (at least openly) doing it to try to annex our country. This time it is very much that, to the point that accepting the last trade deal would have made us a de facto protectorate of the United States.

Even the “sell it to Kirkland” California wine is still 20 bucks.

In California they have maaaaaaaaaaaaaaassive tax breaks (i.e. negative land taxes) and subsidized/free water. The labor is all oppressed undocumented workers below minimum wage. How are European producers able to hit $5/bottle at the same quality level?

It’s just greed and “brand reputation management” that keeps prices high in California.

And it's hilarious because they basically destroy their own market completely by doing that. People's habits will change if you are gouging them, especially in a recession.

Look I agree Rombauer Chardonnay and everything like it is over oaked. There’s not a ton of truly sweet wine but plenty of mid to poor red blends.

Sauv Blanc from Lake County (just north of Napa) can be pretty darn good. A lot of Napa houses blend with Lake County grapes because the land is so much cheaper. They also produce some great Zinfandel, the California varietal that has fallen out of popularity.

My favorite is the central coast Pinot Noir. It’s hotter and more peppery than a classic Burgandy but I love that shit.

Damn, I'm french and good wine here is in the 20-30€ a bottle for some saint Joseph or Croze hermitage. Life is good here

The best wines are wines that almost no one can afford.

but Mondavi succeeded in making all wines taste the same.

Over-oaked wine is bad for cooking, which is exactly what a lot of bad Cali labels do.

At the very least we can assume it was good around the time that one Orson Welles commercial was made since I'm pretty sure he is getting increasingly pissed in-between takes based off the bloopers. Ahhh the French.

Extra fun math problem. 1 liter of Brandy often requires 2 to 3 liters of wine. How much wine is needed to make 1 fuck tun of brandy?

They are the same in the fact that both have been priced to unafordbility.