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[–] 29 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Openstreetmaps

Android app OSMAnd+

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  • [+] 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    No android auto support though..

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  • [–] 45 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    I’ve been using CoMaps for a while as my only map app and I’m very happy with it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    My main issue with it is that often it cannot find the street/city I'm searching. That's why I don't use it all the time.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Contributing to OSM is the best way to give yourself and others freedom from Google. It's very easy to do through StreetComplete, which is a gamified system that updates the map as people complete quests.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    My issue with OSM is that i need an account which may potentially contribute to leak my identity

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    The city exist on the map, it's the search that doesn't find. Not sure what I could do in that case.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    This is a real problem. Search on any OSM app is not the same as GMaps or the other mainstream map services. Contributing to OSM through EveryDoor or StreetComplete in your area will definitely help improve this but as a stop gap I use an app called GMaps WV. It loads Google Maps in an isolated web browser, which allows you to use their search and once you find what your looking for it has a share option that copies the coordinates to the clipboard which you paste into CoMaps and let it take over.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    Cartes is probably the closest thing that I've found (besides Apple Maps or Bing Maps).

    • You can share links with anyone, and they don't need a particular app to open it.
    • The interface will be familiar to Google maps users.
    • It supports leaving reviews for locations.
    • It will pull up Wikipedia information and photos if any have been uploaded to Wikimedia or Panoramax.
    • It's really good for public transit routing.
    • It's okay for planning driving routes, but for turn by turn directions you'll want to use CoMaps (which Cartes has a link to open up the route there).
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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Interesting. I really need one that does public transit.

    Funny how this one has random snippets of French in the UI.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    It's a French project, I guess it's translated in French before English. Non-English speakers are used to seeing snippets of English in translated UIs but I understand the other way around is unusual

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    If it meets your requirements, try Vela Maps which is a degoogled Google Maps.

    " A degoogled maps & navigation client for Android - what NewPipe is to YouTube, for Google Maps. Open vector tiles for the basemap, the device itself scraping Google's public web endpoints (per-user, no backend) for the things only Google does well: POI quality, routing, and traffic-aware ETAs. Built to run on GrapheneOS and other no-GMS ROMs. "

    I think it's a fairly new product and seems to be rapidly improving performance with quite a few updates lately. (I have discovered some glitches but they seem to be addressed as soon as the app updates the next time.)

    It might meet your requirements because it's not Google Maps.

    It might not meet your requirements if you want a truly no-Google product, because it uses a few Google things anonymously in the back end...

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  • [+] 13 points 1 month ago (1 child)
  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago*

    I was using organic until CoMaps forked it, now CoMaps is the way. It's open street map so you can sign up and fix whatever you want, pull down the next version and it's there.

    I do miss street view, voiced street names, and really miss cowdsourced hazards from waze but it's worth it if you're not on a long high speed trip.

    edit: turns out you can turn on tts street names

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    From my own recent tests, Maps.me is good for finding businesses, citymapper is good for public transport, and TomTom is good for driving directions with live trafic.

    OSMAnd is amazing, customisable, can do everything (I use it for hiking, saving locations, and topography) but for things you'd use google for (finding businesses, driving, street view) google does those things much better.

    And PSA for those who don't know, Waze is owned by google and maintained in Israel.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Waze is my Achilles heel when it comes to degoogling. I use OSMAnd~ frequently and love it (even considering getting a lifetime license), but with the multitude of options it has it's missing a dedicated way for community driven police reports when driving. Absolutely essential feature in daily commutes for me. And not to mention I have to often find a location in GVmaps and manually input it to OSMAnd to be able to navigate to it since it's missing so many.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Comaps is what I use because it is free, Osmand+ is what you should use if you are willing to pay a bit, but don't use Organic Maps.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Whats wrong with organic? I've used all of these and it felt almost identical to comaps

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    https://itsfoss.com/news/organic-maps-fork-comaps/

    Despite being advertised as a community-driven project, key decisions, including financial management, partnerships (with Kayak, for instance), and the inclusion of proprietary components in the code were made by a small group of shareholders, often without input from the broader contributor community. These shareholders have reportedly used the project’s donation funds for personal expenses, like holiday trips, raising serious concerns about financial transparency.

    Which is why they forked CoMaps.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    If you listen to the CoMaps developers’ perspective, they’re naturally going to talk up their competitors at Organic Maps. In any case, Organic Maps another open-source map, free and open to everyone. And new features are added much faster than in CoMaps (public transportation, hiking style, alternative routing). Try both options and choose the one that works best for you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Organic Maps is also technically committing tax fraud by paying the owners dividends but no salaries. They're making quite a bit off the donations too. All of which was pocketed.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    MapQuest is a perfectly reasonable commercial alternative that has all of the things you'd expect - dynamically-loaded map tiles, turn-by-turn nav, etc. If you want to look at options that use OpenStreetMap data, I've found CoMaps to be very good. The biggest drawback is that you have to download maps (~100-300MB per geo area) all at once, which can be a problem if you're on the road and don't have great signal strength.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Co-maps generally works good for me, bht the bjg disadvantage is it has no traffic data (I think this might be inherently incompatable with standard foss, would love to be wrong though). So my go to when driving is HERE wego, which works well and is up to date (and not evil as far as I know)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I love Organic Maps. Works on Android and IOS. Fully offline (maps predownload at first run) and all route calculation is locally computed so it's especially good for hiking or where signal is poor.

    Only thing I miss is live traffic updates but for me that's an acceptable tradeoff for the ultimate offline privacy as far as a digital map can do it.

    The voice it uses is whatever's built into the phone's accessibility features so on some devices it sounds a bit janky, but on Android at least you can install different ones if that bothers you.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    good or better then google maps, no, they're are a trillion $ company with major resoirces

    I use OSMAnd+ its a little bit shit but ot gets me by. I also edit a little bit of Open Street maps in my area to help

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This right here; if I can ever manage to get my transmission fixed, I can start recording my DoorDash trips, again. OSM is painfully lacking info in my city.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Time to get some oil on your hands!

    Err probably not. But what transmission and what are the issues you're having? Might be something much simpler than you think

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    It's primarily an issue of getting the necessary tools to be able to drop the bastich in the first place, and then figuring out when to do it, because now is absolutely not the time in the southeastern United States.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    deflock Half joking

    I wish there was a way to export a pre-calculated route from deflock to CoMaps though that would just be the bees knees

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    Hmm. That doesn't seem to address what I'm after as it looks like just another app that doesn't let you export a route. Also I noticed that its routing algo is worse/doesn't allow fine grain control of the dodge distance. Also also absolutely proprietary. Ty tho!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Here Wego is proprietary and corporate, BUT it's non-USA and it has live traffic

    edit: to clarify, non-USA ownership, but usa roads and traffic data are available

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I've just started using MapQuest like many others since the lake ontario thing. It's been pretty good and I find it a lot more functional and accurate than the Foss options at the moment. It's not perfect but it's also not Google or apple.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    More accurate how? It's still OSM underneath isn't it?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I found when I typed in locations by name or even lots of street addresses to OSM it would often give wrong results or just say cannot be found. Haven't run into that at all with MapQuest, every address I type in has come up on the map. Type in company/business names and they pop up. Had trouble with that when I tried osm

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    If OSM isn't good enough, make it better.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I spent an hour improving my hometown but that's not where I need a map. I need it in places where I don't know if it's right or wrong.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    truth is OSM has proven to be more accurate in areas I frequent vs Gmaps. We've got into multiple "situations" because of Gmaps

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    like leading us the wrong way. Or completely ignoring existence oh our house.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Comaps works well for me. If it's not comprehensive enough, contribute! OSM is crowd-sourced.

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  • for basic things openstreetmaps based ones (comaps organic maps), for anything else no.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    CoMaps is good if you already know where to go.
    I use it in conjunction with GMapsWV: look for a place, copy the coordinates with the share button and paste them into CoMaps.
    Never missed an address and I use it quite a bit.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Trying to learn, what is the advantage of GMapsVW versus opening Google Maps in a mobile browser?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (7 children)

    Thanks for the recommendation for GMapsWV. I didn't know about that, and have always felt very uncomfortable when using Google Maps to find restaurants and such that aren't always listed in OSM.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I had this talk with a friend the other week, but I can't recommend enough that if something OSM based isn't showing correctly, you can always add it in once you find the right answer. For example, if it doesn't have hours listed for a business, I'll go to their website and copy that data in, or if the address doesn't show up right, I'll edit the building with the correct address. I found the other day that the address for my apartment was listed over a garage up the street instead of my building and I just removed the one and added in the other.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I completely fixed my neighborhood of 800 homes. took me a week. I drew in the house shapes and the heights, turned the row home blocks into individual linked blocks with exact addresses and accurate sidewalks.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    I've never added in height before. Does it just look for number of stories, or how did you find that info?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    When you make an area->structure in osm, you can add it in the height meta in meters.

    When an app uses the OSM data to draw a 3d structure, it can use your height data. (and most appear to)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I meant more how did you find the height of the structures? Is it listed in a property database somewhere or are all the houses roughly the size of yours so you just used that as a base?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I live in a neighborhood with 3 house styles; each has a fixed number of floors. The townhomes all have 8' ceilings, a basement, 1st, a second floor, and an attic or loft. All basements are walkout so i count them. I-joists are about 18 inches. So the townhomes are ~ 11 meters.

    The single family are basement, 1st, and second, with 10" main floor and 8" second floor, then they have 16' attics, which puts them ~ 13m

    The apartment complex has 5 fixed floors. It was trickier because I don't know the internal structure, nor the height of the decorative crowns, so I took a Google Earth look at the side of the building, drew a 45-degree line down from the top, and measured the bottom of the triangle

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