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[–] 27 points 2 months ago

I am under no obligation to pay for your games, so I won't!

Feels good man.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    When sony, nintendo, and xbox were charging more money for tarrif reasons , i stopped buying from them and only bought games on steam.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    Gotta pay those money bleeding LLMs somehow

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I'd boycott them but I'm already not buying their enshittified nonsense 🤷

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago
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    [–] 100 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Just to highlight the good actors too:

    For one thing, Arctic announced a price rollback after securing its refund, saying this will continue until "every single dollar Arctic received [...] has been paid back to our customers."

    Panic, maker of the Playdate handheld, has taken a bolder stance, offering refunds to those who bought its console and were charged extra for its tariffs. Company co-founder Cabel Sasser said last month, "It's just not our money to keep."

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Playdate handheld

    That thing is so hilariously overpriced in the first place, that a few bucks don't make any difference neither to the seller, nor the consumer.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Nice of them regardless, but I totally agree. The playdate is a neat toy but it's wild how successful they are considering it costs $230 and most games on it are paid. You could buy a similarly neat retro handheld for only $50!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    It's a trait of a certain market of quirky and unique high-quality devices. E.g. the Dirtywave M8 music tracker was sold at 650$. But they also provide the software freely, and one can diy it on a Raspberry Pi.

    Teenage Engineering, who designed Playdate, have most of their products rather ridiculously priced. E.g. the portable synth/sampler OP-1 costs 2000€.

    TBF I have a Chinese handheld for emulators, and discovered online that the screws on it are positioned such that the heads can pierce the battery when it swells. This was after the battery completely died in a year of disuse, so I was looking up replacements.

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  • [–] 162 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    And they’re not.

    And you’re not obligated to buy their products

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Is piracy a thing on modern consoles?

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Use emulation. Can't play the latest, but there's no shortage

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Look into the bounty on a PS5 firmware crack.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 months ago

    Guess I'll continue pirating their shit.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    If the government wanted the people to have it they could have stipulated that or, better yet, given it directly to the people. You need a complicit government for 'privatized profit; socialized loses'

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Not surprising considering most companies have no plans to refund the consumer for the tariff costs they passed on because there's no regulation forcing them to do so.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    did most companies pass it on though? some didnt and in those cases why should they?

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Ha ha ha ha. It was a fucking griffffttttt!!!!

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    This entire scheme was a combination of market manipulation along with a universal price hike. A lot of very rich people got a lot richer. They got to engage in insider trading while massively increasing prices while pretending they had no choice.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    And we have no obligation to buy their products. Bodycott is the only language companies understand

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    why?

    because fuck you. that's why.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    And that's a surprise to.... absolutely no one

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    If some people haven’t woken up to reality yet and this other nail in the coffin doesn’t do it, I don’t know what will.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Obligated? No

    They're doing it for the love of the game

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    People are butthurt about this but don't have the willpower to not buy or use their products.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Sucks but it's true. I've been trying to de-microsoft my household for over a year now. My partner won't switch away from Windows, despite how fucking bad 11 is, and we're still paying for office 365, even though I haven't used MS office on a non-company computer for about 15 years at this point.

    I haven't had anything sony in decades. Everything I got from them was overpriced trash that broke under very meager circumstances.

    Next on my chopping block is Google. Once the my phone is paid off, I'm switching to Graphene. Currently trying out open street maps, and trying to spin up my own email server so I can ditch my Gmail account.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I really hate that companies being hostile to their customers has become normalised such that it's really expected.

    There's very clearly a right and scrupulous thing to do. Not having an obligation to do that is not an excuse not to.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Companies always has been hostile when they are so big that they are only fathomable as market entity. Privatise gains, socialise losses.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I disagree.

    Yes companies have privatised profits and socialised losses since forever, thats not what I'm talking about.

    Its not that long ago that you could talk to an actual person in customer service who at least had a supervisor with the authority to do provide an appropriate resolution.

    Now the standard mode of operation is to simply close ranks, and make a PR statement like this... "we're not going to do that simply because you can't make us".

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    yeah fuck you too

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I believe UPS and FedEx are required to make refunds as people were explicitly charged tariff related fees.

    Because Sony and Microsoft just baked the price in, its a little hard to get them to refund since theres technically nothing to refund (as shady and fucked up and goodwill burning as it is).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    They know who purchased a new console in that time frame they could give them at least gift cards or something. Or like the one company reducing cost till the money is gone. It might not be the same people but your customers at least git it.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    No one could have possibly anticipated this

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    Because they don't have to. This is business. This is psychopathy. They will only give when they are compelled to do so.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    We over charged you and you can suck it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Sony already don't want me to buy their games, so at least they've ensured they don't owe me a refund.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You literally can’t buy a game from them. They argued as much in court yesterday.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Maybe not, but they should anyways.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago*

    They make it so much easier for us nerds to tell the normies that these companies suck and to not buy shit from them. Broken ad infested OS, no disk Sony drama, and now this.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    The same obligation we are under to buy them or not.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Yes, that's correct, they are under no obligation. Obviously. It would be nice if they did that, but there is obviously no obligation.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    microsoft is trying to pass the AI cost to customers, via windows 11.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Ok so profits are through the roof but there's no one to buy your products.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    They must just need more time to do the right thing naturally without being legally obligated?

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  • We do (in the USA) have a legal framework for this already? There are at least a handful of industries where, if it is found that they've mischarged, they do have to provide a refund.

    Also the thing that annoys me the most is: They didn't pay the tarrifs, the consumers did. Those price changes were 100% passed onto consumers, and it should be consumers of those products seeing the refunds. If they can prove that they lost revenue based on the price hikes, sure, give some recompense, but they shouldn't be getting refunds on something they effectively didn't spend money on

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    MS has other more concerning things they will pass on to.

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    [–] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    TBF, I'm not getting one from Linux, either.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    greedy fucks have no heart nor soul for anyone but themselves

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Haha stupid consumer.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I can't really blame them. I wouldn't expect a check in the mail from Starbucks because of their coffee bean tariffs were refunded.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Starbucks doesn’t require you to have a verified identity, contact information, and credit card on file to buy beans. The companies in question could do this with the click of a button.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And yet game developers will keep fellating Microsoft, requiring Windows to play their PC games, giving those of us who left Windows the finger.

    They're all basically in on the grift.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    steam+proton is a better software distribution method for games than anything else linux has got going on. Game devs hate having to build their games six different ways for different distros with 0.5% market share each.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago

    Unpopular opinion I guess, but sure. Why should they? They sold good for a price they deemed worthy, calculated their dues and risk, and customer bought it for this price.

    Companies have to maximize their profit.

    People should not be mad at those companies. Proper targets are: Those who created unlawful taxes, capitalism or the specific rules within capitalism or the (in this case) the USA.

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