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[–] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

Email affected the USPS far less than people think it did.

EDIT: I should say the ADVENT of email.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Mail/packages sent via the United States Postal Service have more constitutional protections than those sent via commercial carrier or email.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Then Capitalism gave us delivery services, and the US government made the USPS bankrupt and obsolete.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The US government had a legal monopoly to "carrying letters and parcels arround." Then it decided to remove that law, and then capitalism created delivery services.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    In exchange for the monopoly there was flat rate service to every address in the country. Now they’re expected to do the flat rate service without the monopoly, while other companies targrt the most lucrative business.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    And then Congress required them to take out loans to come up with 75 years worth of employee health benefits in just 10 years. That put them in massive debt, when other companies have such requirements.

    Now, the same politicians that imposed those rules on them, are complaining that they're no longer "profitable", since every single penny they make is going towards paying off that debt.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Email was never a threat to mailed letters or magazines. It was some nonsense thunked up by the same caliber of technophobe that called it the webbernet and thought it really was just a series of tubes.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Email was never a threat to mailed letters or magazines

    Excuse me? You didn't put a /s in there, so I'm genuinely puzzled by your comment. If it was sarcastic, then well played.

    Granted magazines have died out because of websites, but letters?

    As a Dane unless you have an exemption, because you're very old or intellectually challenged, then you're required to have a special digital inbox for government and banking. When that was in introduced, letters died in less than a decade. To such a degree that the postal service stopped delivering letters last year.

    A private company took over the letter carrying responsibility, so you can still send a letter. But there are no mail boxes left, you have to go to a store that does packages as well and standing in line to send a letter. The private company btw did a splendid job of making the postal service seem competent in comparison. Something no Dane would have found possible in years prior.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    The post specifies USPS which means the time would be around 30 years ago in the US.

    I'm sorry to heat about your postal service. It's a sad accomplishment to out-suck the US.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    I have a buddy who works for the USPS. The package delivery portion of his job sounds nuts.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    And USPS still got shanked by the government anyway.

    I don't think I've ever seen a proper post office in at least a decade because even the main shipping/processing offices look like a hurricane blew threw and they didn't even bother to replace the postal workers that died.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I bet actual personal letters are less than 1% of what USPS delivers these days

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Back when my brother was in jail, I was personally boosting that percentage by writing to him every week. Sometimes, he'd even write back. (some/most jails are wicked restrictive on correspondence and Internet access, and a letter is much cheaper than a jail phone conversation.)

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    It sucked being the kid at summer camp that never got mail. I figured jail was similar, so I made sure he had mail. I didn't always have much to say, so often I'd send a greeting card filled with writing or sometimes just a post card. The act of sending/getting mail was the important bit.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Until the internet can move matter we will always need matter transport options of which the USPS is one of.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    A mail straight from my living room to your living room, delivered instantly??? That'll never work! Some kind of electronic mail??? The post office won't stand for it!

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    There are postal organizations outside of the US.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It's the same when you ask an American where they are from when you meet abroad and they reply with a state name like Texas instead of a country.

    They're abroad so they must know that other countries exist yet still reply with their state name.

    I don't think knowledge is the problem anymore, it's ignorance.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If someone is from the UK and you ask where they're from and they answer Scotland, do you roll your eyes?

    If someone is from Paris, do you get mad that they didn't say France?

    People expect others to know a little geography, so if you're from one of the bigger states, you can assume most people have heard of it. After all, there's a pretty big difference between the average person from California, and the average person from Arkansas.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm in the USA and I have talked to multiple people who are also from USA who have never heard of RI lol. Asking if it's part of New York. I'm sure there's European countries I would have no clue about and I can't tell u every country in africa or Asia either. Most people don't memorize 180 counties and their locations, one hemisphere is enough lol.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    So the man said “that’s a good thing” and the zen master said “we’ll see”

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Mailman here. I still deliver thousands of letters a day

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Man, I remember when people used to write letters. The internet just wasn't a thing on anyone's radar at the time, except maybe science folk, and personal computers were very uncommon and costly.

    There was something special about writing a letter, sometimes bit by bit over days or even weeks. And getting one in the post was exciting. Especially when it was from a relative who might slip a £1 note in there.

    I think somewhere I still have a folder of letters from old girlfriends - and they would be old now, one is dead. But you'd keep letters, because they were somehow more personal.

    Interestingly, this form of communication had its own viruses - things called chain letters. I got one once, and participated in spreading it. Some just wanted maximum dispersal, others were fraudulent or malicious.

    Then home computers and email came along and it was just so much easier. Letters pretty much died out. I only really get them from companies now trying to sell shit. And bills and traffic fines often send them. Fuck knows why traffic fines can't use email. And my doctors, again - why?

    And now email is sinking under the weight of procedurally generated crap and scams. A lot of work related stuff I get is pages of shit generated by AI. I take the view that if they couldn't be arsed to write it, I can't be arsed to read it. At best, I'll get AI to summarise - which is a ridiculous use of all this compute power and its attendant environmental harm. And so, so many 'click this link' scams. Makes me wonder if email will soon be superseded by something else.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    Google Wave tried to replace email with a come-and-go / bulletin board / long-form chat kind of thing. I'd still like that for occasional things, like organizing holiday get-togethers with the family, but that has been the only time I think about using something like that.

    For most personal communication that isn't biz-to-biz, it's chat nowadays. And the rooms/teams/channels concept (like IRC) is the main medium for what I used to want Waves to be. At least on Teams, it still supports more than just a "tweet", and people can come and go on those threads, and depending on the service, you can pin messages, associate a wiki for persistent content, etc.

    But all those still require people to be on that particular chat service.

    Perhaps that's the end result for personal and group communication. The format feels pretty right for the job, to me. I just hope it eventually morphs into a federated system like email and Lemmy, as I just don't imagine everyone agreeing to sign up for yet another chat service every time someone else wants to start a group chat. Then instead of "did you add so-and-so to the group chat", we'd just pivot the problem to "oh, we were discussing this on the Slack group, but on the Teams group someone else said blah blah...". Same problem--fragmentation.

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