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[–] 60 points 3 months ago (9 children)

me shily walking over to my timeshift snapshots after running

sudo chmod -R 775 /

Instead of with a dot...

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Plot twist: Your snapshots were mounted when you did that and are now also very accessible.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    shudders

    But no I use an externall HDD docked with a... Usb dock thing whatever it's called

    That's accessible from a USB Ubuntu... Right?

    Right?????

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    TimeShift was probably one of the most important teaching aides I had when I first started on Linux.

    I've been on Bazzite for a couple years now, so I have no need for it anymore.

    But I learned sooooo much by breaking my EndeavourOS install and then rolling back.

    I've only had to rollback with Bazzite once so far (it's hard to break), and it was literally just one rpm-ostree command. Love it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    (seriously asking)

    Why even use ./ if you can just use . and are not executing anything? Am I missing something? It seems like a bad habit.

    (OK on my case of course the incentive to use dot is higher than slash because it needs shift contrary to dot)

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  • [–] 99 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I mean that's the whole deal for me. I can take it if I know I can fix it

    There is no fixing microsoft

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  • [+] -32 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    There is no fixing microsoft

    But there is. People create their own fixes, configurations and utilities all the time.

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  • [–] 57 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    By reverse engineering black box shit, then providing binaries everyone is just supposed to trust don’t also contain malware?

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  • [–] 47 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Linux Inc. does not spend billions of dollars ensuring you have no options but Linux.

    It also doesn't exist, so that helps too.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    The goddamn page required me to enable JS to see the list, after which Firefox immediately pushed the system into swap.

    Anyway, makes sense since the foundation afaik funds and coordinates development of some important low-level stuff, and these dudes are invested into that (since Fuchsia apparently went nowhere, hehe). Although idk what the foundation wants with React or Neo4j.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    One of the reasons I love Linux, actually.

    Nobody to blame but myself, so let's start figuring this shit out I guess

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    You can dig as deep as you care to, all the way down to source code. And if you can't read code, you can learn to. If you don't want to spend the time, that's completely reasonable. But it's your choice.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Tbf the biggest problems i had with linux were caused by some Windows partition so the first image may as well apply to the second case sometimes.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I weirdly got a problem after blowing away my windows partition

    Shutting down the computer (mint) doesn’t fully shut down anymore, so I gotta physically hold down the power button til it goes off

    Internet says something with grub is probs wack, but I’m lazy so I just made a shortcut to “shutdown -f 0” and called it good

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Afaik grub should not have any effect on shutting down. Grub is the bootloader, after it has loaded the kernel, it's done.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Hell if I know, I recall some discussion involving grub no-splash but maybe I’m conflating the forum posts I read. The main idea is that some process is running and preventing the graceful shutdown but I haven’t read the posts in a while.

    I do find it odd this only happened after a reinstall where grub is realistically the only change (shifting the install drive + boot options, deleting windows)

    I know I gotta do some digging if I want to fix it but I’ve got other fish I’d rather fry

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Eh, not always. For months after I started using Bazzite, Dolphin's Windows EXE thumbnailer didn't work. Should it have worked? Yeah. Why didn't it? Who fucking knows. Did it get fixed? Yes. How did it get fixed? New Plasma version I guess.

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    [–] 17 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Yeah every issue is basically a mystery that will lead you down a rabbit hole, be prepared to learn a lot of things and copy and paste code you do not fully understand, well if you are a layman like me

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Or just keep back ups and reinstall the OS.

    Honestly I've been using Linux for like 15 years and there have been times that just reinstalling which takes 45 minutes would have been the fastest and easiest solution to a problem I will likely never encounter again.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I recently switched to CachyOS. While I don't have the same hard-on for it that most users seem to have, I like how it's set up by default to create a btrfs snapshot of the root filesystem before and after each update. Grub can even boot into individual snapshots directly. I'm almost looking forward to the day it saves my ass after an update breaks my system.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    When you go down the rabbit hole a debate starting from scratch again:

    45 minutes to re-install the OS.

    Another couple of hours to get all of the common programs you use downloaded and installed.

    A full month or more of customizing everything to your preferences and downloading the programs you rarely use.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Because:

    1. You pay for windows ("supposed to pay" atleast)
    2. You cant be mad at a community effort. Don't like it? Fork it or help fix it.
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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Indeed, last time I paid for windows was like windows 7. Only free upgrades since then.

    But fixing a bug is not as simple as "fork it or help fix it", those are by far the most complicated options that only a tiny faction of users (can) take.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    "help fix it" can be opening a good issue with instructions on how to recreate and details, it can be testing new features and fixes, or even paying someone some money to fix it for you and contribute to upstream. (Gitcoin, upwork etc.)

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    How to recreate it? There are SO many variables. I am not going to set up a new system just too see if I can replicate some bug... unless it is a really big issue with something very important, at which point someone already did that.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Still new, trying Linux Mint Cinnamon. I don't think I can break it. It's super user friendly.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I put mint on My laptop at work and it took 3 months for anyone to ask me about it. My laptop is frequently used by 5 other people with zero Linux experience lol, and barely any real PC experience.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Mine breaks on its own once I sit down with my food to watch some videos.

    I fucking swear it knows when I'm eating.

    I probably have a faulty CPU, though. I wish there was an easy way to tell (after several flawless RAM tests and two different GPUs),

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Start dmesg when you're eating, put it in the corner. You can cancel out murphys law with a watched pot never boils.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks, I'll try that! Does it even save if the PC freezes solid? Because that's what usually happens.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    It was a joke, but actually, yeah, it has a good chance.

    When if freezes, whatever was going wrong will likely be all over the dmesg log. as long as it's just frozen, you'll likely see what was going on. there's usually at least some brief inkling before it explodes.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    If I pay 100+ dollars for something I expected to ship with basic drivers. If it’s free, I’m un surprised if and when it rarely doesn’t have the drivers I need

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Yes, when something is forced on a person, that tends to lead to resentment. Meanwhile if a person freely chooses something, they may wonder if they chose properly.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    Other Linux users to you: RTFM you fucking donkey!

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Hot take: user-friendly system shouldn't require the manual to operate normally.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Some things are just inherently complex. And especially if you're going to use CLI (not user unfriendly in any way imo), you're gonna want to make sure you're typing in the right stuff.

    Linux has the manuals built-in, they're called "man pages"

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    People in these parts will throw shade at macOS, and I get it. But whatever you think of Apple, they've traditionally done a pretty good job of making their OS such that you don't really need a manual unless you start doing more complex stuff. Someone who's not particularly computer literate can buy a cheap Mac and have it up and running in no time, without ever really needing to seek help.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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    For desktop useage, fair enough; though, keep in mind that linux started and still is a server os primarily. DEs started out for the developers to have the ability to have some GUI on the side as well, no reason to hate themselves for no reason. I use arch for desktop useage, not server useage, and I'm aware that I'm the insane one, and linux being the even more insane one for actually working for what it's not even designed for. DE's are a GNU thing and all that, but still a bunch of packages made to be modular by default rather than well integrated for a specific experience. So while it is up to the developers to develop their packages, it's the distro maintainers to make it user-friendly for desktop useage; where if something is really needed, someone will make it - if noone makes it, the suggestions of popular demand will be enough motivation for someone to make it sooner or later. I often feel bad for relying on the "someone", which is why we donate, to show appreciation and support the things we love.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    keep in mind that linux started and still is a server os primarily. DEs started out for the developers to have the ability to have some GUI on the side as well

    Absolute nonsense. Unix GUIs and workstations predate Linux. The X Window System was first released in 1984, the Motif widget toolkit in 1989, and both were alternatives to existing proprietary GUIs. The workstation landscape was a Wild West before Windows prevailed.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago*

    Years ago, coming from Windows 7, I decided Linux Mint was simple enough to dip my toes into Linux. Some jackass had posted a guide to manually install a cool looking desktop environment and I fell for it faster than an idiot born yesterday.

    Sure, the DE worked and looked cool for a day or two. But it was massively borked after the first security update. Looking back, I wouldn't do anything different. I am grateful for that tough first lesson. After spending the subsequent days reading about the different distros, I picked one that was notoriously un-shiny and I read the documentation. Whenever I think about adding shiny, unsupported thingies, I think about how fast foolish decisions can tank the OS.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    "Oh maybe I could fix it by trying this thing."

    "But what if it messes things up?"

    "Ah it'll be just fine if I mess around here just this once."

    "It'll work don't worry."

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Definitely true when learning Linux, but to be fair, things do break on their own. Example: just yesterday I updated fedora and it broke my network connections for my vms. I certainly didn’t do that, and it seems to be a repeating issue.

    But you wanna know what the difference is?

    1. A 30 second web search identified the problem and a quick edit of the network.conf text file fixed the issue.
    2. even if I couldn’t fix it, I could very easily roll the updates back
    3. this issue will get fixed for good and won’t still be lingering around for 10 years

    Compare that to me updating win11 on a faster more capable computer a couple weeks ago:

    1. It broke like a bazillion things, well documented on the internet, no solutions other than “we’ll maybe fix that someday”
    2. the computer rebooted THREE times! 3! I’ve seen two-three was a new one
    3. it took 40 minutes on a 32 core threadripper, 64gb ram, plenty of free hard drive space, and a 4090 card. No, it wasn’t years of updates, and it wasn’t a major version update. It was maybe 1.5 months since last update.

    Linux is great, not perfect, but great with great communities.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    honestly wth is windows update even doing? takes my thinkpad from 2020 about 30 min to recompile my ENTIRE nixos setup from scratch. FROM SCRATCH, freshly formatted drive, 30 minites later an entirely functional DE with all apps i need installed.

    How does windows manage to take longer, on better hardware, with something that should by all account be an easier cpu task? im baffled

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    100% agree. The windows fanbois always come out in force and defend Microsoft, they act like the abused in bad marriages defending their dirtbag husband who beats them /shrug

    It’s not a problem with my computer. I didn’t do anything “wrong”. I clean installed win 11 on its own hard drive because 1) I own a retail copy and 2) my daughter is taking the lsat test and it requires windows or macOS. The install took hours. And the part that slowed it down was the update process. Ok no big deal, it’s a new install, i mean fedora fresh installs in like 15 minutes (and most of that is me clicking buttons), but whatever. So that’s it, it’s just a clean install of win11. Every month or so, I boot it up and hit the update button. It’s painful, every time. Yes I get it’s designed to slow roll in the background but come on - if I open up settings -> windows update and hit the update now button - then get to work already. It’s always a 20+ minute process. This last one was exceptionally long, but you get my point.

    And these updates are always terrible, stuff breaks right away. After the last update the lock screen was all Asian characters. The rest of the OS was fine, just the lock screen changed. Dafuq? The recycle bin contents were all like hash file names. A year or two ago an update on my wife’s laptop wouldn’t proceed because the recovery partition that win11 itself created during install was too small. All other further updates wouldn’t go either because that one was stuck. Like grandma is going to resize partitions - granny’s computer is heading towards bot ville.

    Anyways ya, windows sucks big hairy donkey balls now. 50% of that suckage comes from windows update. The other 50% comes from them shoving poo in your face every chance it gets.

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  • [+] -12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Update your Windows PC weekly and reboot once a week and that will resolve 90% or more of your issues. Updates are frequent, delaying the install can cause several problems. 1.5 months since last update is regularly an issue even in the enterprise space.

    Not saying that is acceptable to most people. But best practice is to allow updates and to apply them at least once a week.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Microsoft only ships updates once a month. Did you fall into a time hole from 2001?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    I guess it may be smaller updates like .NET and some drivers. .NET and most of the other smaller updates shouldn't even need restarting, they just eat your CPU and take ages because Microsoft is silently compiling them in the background on your computer.

    Nowadays, Microsoft Defender's definitions are, for some reason, also shipped through Microsoft Update. You can get those daily or every few days, but they're fast and won't affect your system in any way.

    Drivers usually shouldn't be common after installing the first batch, so I doubt you'd get a lot of those in 1.5 months.

    Indeed, Microsoft only ships system updates on patch tuesday, the second tuesday of the month.

    So this user could only have had a max of 2 system updates, 1-2 driver updates maybe (unlikely, though), and then possibly another 1-2 .NET updates. If the user has Defender activated, add a definitions update. Keep in mind that this is basically worst case scenario. Those updates should never cause issues, be that slow, or require 3 reboots.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    Microsoft does only once a month sure, but OEM vendors push firmware, drivers, and BIOS updates through Windows update whenever they want. Windows is not the only thing that requires updating.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago
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    True freedom means responsibility. You should have the right to destroy yourself and your OS

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    ok one more joke...

    Linux Video Driver after an update repair starter kit

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    I never had issues on windows 11, but fuck that noise.

    Ive since moved CachyOS, I’ve put in 30-60 mins a week fixing or setting up things. The recent was a random “a wedged CEF cache in the Steam client”. Im happy to pay it and i learn more of a system im part of. Im in awe of all the work already done in linux.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    I just moved my EXT4 home folder off of my old Cachy install onto my new NixOS install on a different drive before deciding to stick with just installing a fresh CachyOS on that same drive meaning a reformatting. I had meant to just copy the files so now I basically just nuked all my data :(

    Mad at myself right now as I'm seeing if i can save any data using ddrescue and DMDE

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I didn't know you couldn't just move an encrypted partition a bit to the left. Ended up wiping out the headers without backing them up.

    All my data is technically still there, I guess. ¯\(ツ)/¯

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    See if the headers are duplicated somewhere else on the partition (at the end or somesuch).

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    My Nvidia drivers broke on my old rig I'm using as a server. I got lucky and fixed it running akmods and not doing an 8 hour blood ritual.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Oh look the fstab command I didn't fully understand has written all the NTFS indexes over the partition tables on all my hard drives... Whelp time to learn data recovery.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Ya I just went through this myself, long story short, never sync your home dir to nextcloud via the desktop client. Do the sub folders one at a time.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    That's most likely Nextcloud desktop's fault though. One time I was syncing my games folder and it had an error downloading some files and when I clicked retry sync it apparently decided that I had deleted the games folder so it just immediately removed the entire thing from my Nextcloud server. Didn't even send it to trash despite me having the option to put deleted files in trash enabled.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I've broken my desktop by running a pacman -Syu a few times. That was hardly my fault unless you consider my choice to use a rolling distro to be a fault in itself.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 months ago

    That tends to happen once in a while, usually because of Nvidia. One time happened because of GRUB update though I wasn't affected that time since I was using systemd-boot. That's not the reason I moved over to Void but gotta say I'm quite happy with the slower pace of rolling-release.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Ever trigger OOM in alpine Linux in aarch64?

    “Oh you broke weirdly…”

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