What kind of craziness would cause a person to think that it might?
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"Parents have been concerned about this potential circumcision-autism connection, but hopefully these findings may help allay their fears," says senior author Monica McGrath
Dear Dr. McGrath,
Which parents?
Sincerely,
Sane people
...did people think it did?
can we still like, stop doing it though ?
Obviously. Nowhere to hide the Tylenol.
(why am I like this?)
hmmmm no. Making a jokes about hiding autism inducing OTCs in your foreskin defs comes from different place than that for me
Ah, personal experience!
Nothing beats the personal touch, true
If you can try it with tylonol. I call it the rattle snake
just don't toss it in your salad. made that mistake some time ago... it ain't good!
Still genital mutiliation and child sex abuse
Agree. I’m from Europe and I find it very weird how common it is in the US
It's SO common in the US that while growing up I felt ashamed and incredibly self concious of being uncircumsized in high school showers. Life's so strange.
It's not really a thing outside the USA? At least not in Canada anymore. I'm one of a bunch of kids and about halfway through my siblings they stopped recommending it.
Confused the hell out of 8 year old me tasked with giving my 3 year old brother a shower.
Thankfully the millennial generation has started doing away with circumcising our children. Last time I checked, which was admittedly 10 years ago, the circumcision rates were closer to 50/50 in the US.
Update: It's dropped below 50%!
“We reviewed over 1.5 million U.S. hospitalizations of male neonates, ages 0 to 28 days, during the period 2012 to 2022, and found that the overall prevalence of hospitalizations where a neonatal male circumcision was performed decreased significantly, from 54.1% to 49.3%,” says study co-senior author Aaron Tobian, M.D., Ph.D., professor of pathology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. “Decreases were observed across most patient and hospital subgroups, including whites — a group with traditionally high circumcision rates — where circumcisions dropped 5.3% over the decade studied.”
My husband started out with the "he should look like me.." and then quickly came around after a bit of reading. The Adam Ruins Everything on circumcision is great!
It's good to know it's moving toward not maiming kids. I'm afraid to ask about vaccination rates because my sister's kids are of questionable status on that front, and my sister won't talk about such things. Very alternative hippy type.
Yep, I got teased for it
I’m from the US and didn’t circumcise my son. It’s really simple. Who doesn’t want more penis? I’d take more penis. Penis is all good. Why subtract penis?
When my older brother had a son he DID circumcise him. When I asked why, he gave me this head shake as if to say “huh? what?” and all he said was “that’s just how they do it at the hospital we went to.”
I mean labor and childbirth are a whirlwind so I don’t blame anyone for losing a detail or two. Unless that detail subtracts a part of my penis. Then we gone fight.
I have a hard time faulting people for following a doctor's recommendation if that's what was going on.
The first time I saw an un-circumcised penis was in porn when I was in my early 20s, I think. What little sex ed we had in the rural US in the '80s and early '90s didn't even have an image of one that wasn't circumcised so far as I recall. I thought it was some kind of birth defect or something.
you beat me to that exact phrase 👍
I accidentally replied under the wrong comment and deleted within seconds :) Not sure how you managed to reply twice. I see replies sometimes persist in messages/notifications despite being deleted from the thread. Anyway.
Who... how could... what?
... ah.
"Parents have been concerned about this potential circumcision-autism connection, but hopefully these findings may help allay their fears," says senior author Monica McGrath, research professor in the Bloomberg School's Department of Epidemiology...
Ah ok I understand now.
"Parents".
Bigotry against autists is so extreme that idiot religious extremists will actually consider one of their more barbaric, senseless, cherished traditions as negotiable, relative to the utter 'horror' of their children potentially being autistic.
You needed a study to know that circumcising doesn't cause brain structure differences?
This IS idiocracy.
Tell the religious people that circumcision causes trans women. At least that one could make sense to someone who's afraid of trans people.
The brain bone is connected to the..... Dick skin bone?
You're against circumcision because you believe it causes autism.
I'm against circumcision because I believe genitally mutilating non-consenting infants is an atrocity.
We are not the same.
Well, better than not being against it...
Agree and all, but to add - I road bike and run ultra marathons. When doing super long distances, you're gonna end up chafing a bit (probably). I would much rather my foreskin get the rub as opposed to THE SENSITIVE TIP OF MY DICK.
You know what really hurts? Water hitting raw skin that's been rubbed in shorts or a bike bib for 4+ hours.
I'm sure it will have negative long term impacts to my ability to be stimulated.
Yeah, something a lot of people don't realize is that circumcized dicks lose a lot of sensitivity due to the excessive friction they go endure throughout each day just by moving around normally.
I read somewhere that intact dicks are basically a mucus membrane underneath the foreskin. That's wild, my dick skin is more like the skin on the back of my hand. No wonder people are so obsessed with sex, it must feel so damn good for uncircumcised people. Something I'll never experience. Damn religion.
i’ve always compared it to eyelids
skin flap helps keep a semi internal organ lubricated and protected
technically not immediately necessary to function but results in major issues after prolonged absence
people get super offended and upset because removing an eyelid would clearly be abuse
lmao fucking americans
This is not even close to the same thing. Your argument is invalid. Stop being so upset about other people's genitals, it is fucking creepy.
It's not the best analogy, sure. Your reaction is worse though. It's like reacting to someone who takes offence at hearing about a knife attack by saying "stop being so upset about other people's internal organs, it is fucking creepy".
hey here’s one in the wild! lmao lmao
So your fine with female circumcision? Or where do you draw the line?
I heard if the doctor doesn't click his heels 4 times after cutting the umbilical cord or if it is a woman doctor the baby will get the autism.
What? Who are these people that were even linking these two things? I'm actually shocked I can still be surprised by stupidity.
They should still stop doing it though.
OK but it is still a barbaric practice and I don't see why we allow it. Just because it is culturally accepted does not make it OK.
Can we spread a lie that it does ?
Idk what else will stop people from mutilating their child's genitals.
Culture needs to be developed where parents are explicitly asked are they mutalating their kids and feel the social pressure.
In the UK, the way they made it go out of fashion is make it so the national health insurance didn't cover it anymore.
I think that could work here.
Wait one thing american insurance has no problem covering is penis mutilation? Looking at this more - it is true though not covered by medicaid or if you're an adult. How fucking weird. I genuinely don't understand this but my bad here for trying to rationally explain this.
How fucking weird. I genuinely don’t understand this
Jeezus said so, that's why.
If you keep digging and playing an adult game of "why?" you eventually come to that "reasoning." It's ultimately why we can't have nice things because religion falls to critical thinking skills, falls to history, falls to literature, and falls to the scientific method.
It's like any other group of people: it's held up by people who've "paid their dues" and need younger people to buy into the system and feed it so the older folks can coast through the end of their life. The system is brutal to people who don't conform. They usually end up expelled from the group and left without resources to build back up again. It's why there are whole other support groups, as an example, to get people out of the LDS sphere of influence.
And by the way, to you good people helping folks escape from the LDS: you would do well to read all the stories about whole chinese police departments working in North America, and what's going on with Flock, and LLMs gathering up data, and it all being available for purchase. I hope your OPSEC is up to having that light shined on you.
They should make it illegal
It "going out of fashion" didn't stop my Jewish parents in the UK mutilating me
That's a good point. It won't stop Jewish parents. I feel like it would be hard to make it illegal without making a religious exception. But that's what needs to happen.
I don't see it as any different than female genital mutilation, which is banned and illegal in most countries. Most people seem to be in agreement that it's not acceptable. Regardless of religion or cultural views of the individuals doing it. Why is this not applied to boys?
I mean, I personally think allowing harm based on religion is just opening the door for any crime.
"12 year old girls have to first have sex with an older male in their family because it's part of our religious beliefs"
You can literally make up any horrors and say your religion requires it.
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