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[–] 86 points 3 months ago (15 children)

What kind of craziness would cause a person to think that it might?

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  • [–] 72 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Probably the same craziness that causes people to think vaccines cause autism.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I would hazard a guess, which obviously I don't know if this is what they're really thinking or not, but I would guess that since there are behavioral overlaps between ASD and CPTSD, that somebody might have made the connection.

    That being said, there's no evidence that circumcision gives people CPTSD on its own, at least none that I am aware of, and if somebody else knows more than I do, (which is quite easy to do), feel free to educate me.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Yeah but c'mon, no even halfway-functional adult that doesn't need a constant "breathe in breathe out" soundtrack playing to explain breathing would suspect vaccines of causing autism. That'd be absurd, we all learn their basic workings in middle school or even earlier, they're a very known concept.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I could maybe see how the pain and/or trauma of it could alter how the brain might develop, but even that’s a stretch…

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago

    No but it is cruel as fuck and rooted in religious bigotry

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    "Parents have been concerned about this potential circumcision-autism connection, but hopefully these findings may help allay their fears," says senior author Monica McGrath

    Dear Dr. McGrath,

    Which parents?

    Sincerely,

    Sane people

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    ...did people think it did?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    It's such a weird thing to do a study on in 2026 given how many thousands of years of data we already have. Like if it made any difference at all it definitely would have been spotted by at least Roman times.

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  • [–] 143 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    can we still like, stop doing it though ?

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Obviously. Nowhere to hide the Tylenol.

    (why am I like this?)

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    hmmmm no. Making a jokes about hiding autism inducing OTCs in your foreskin defs comes from different place than that for me

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    Nothing beats the personal touch, true

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    If you can try it with tylonol. I call it the rattle snake

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    just don't toss it in your salad. made that mistake some time ago... it ain't good!

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  • [–] 171 points 3 months ago (19 children)

    Still genital mutiliation and child sex abuse

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  • [–] [S] 81 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    Agree. I’m from Europe and I find it very weird how common it is in the US

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  • [–] 51 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    It's SO common in the US that while growing up I felt ashamed and incredibly self concious of being uncircumsized in high school showers. Life's so strange.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago*

    It's not really a thing outside the USA? At least not in Canada anymore. I'm one of a bunch of kids and about halfway through my siblings they stopped recommending it.

    Confused the hell out of 8 year old me tasked with giving my 3 year old brother a shower.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    Thankfully the millennial generation has started doing away with circumcising our children. Last time I checked, which was admittedly 10 years ago, the circumcision rates were closer to 50/50 in the US.

    Update: It's dropped below 50%!

    “We reviewed over 1.5 million U.S. hospitalizations of male neonates, ages 0 to 28 days, during the period 2012 to 2022, and found that the overall prevalence of hospitalizations where a neonatal male circumcision was performed decreased significantly, from 54.1% to 49.3%,” says study co-senior author Aaron Tobian, M.D., Ph.D., professor of pathology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. “Decreases were observed across most patient and hospital subgroups, including whites — a group with traditionally high circumcision rates — where circumcisions dropped 5.3% over the decade studied.”

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/2025/09/johns-hopkins-study-newborn-male-circumcision-rates-in-us-dropped-between-2012-and-2022

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's good to know it's moving toward not maiming kids. I'm afraid to ask about vaccination rates because my sister's kids are of questionable status on that front, and my sister won't talk about such things. Very alternative hippy type.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I’m from the US and didn’t circumcise my son. It’s really simple. Who doesn’t want more penis? I’d take more penis. Penis is all good. Why subtract penis?

    When my older brother had a son he DID circumcise him. When I asked why, he gave me this head shake as if to say “huh? what?” and all he said was “that’s just how they do it at the hospital we went to.”

    I mean labor and childbirth are a whirlwind so I don’t blame anyone for losing a detail or two. Unless that detail subtracts a part of my penis. Then we gone fight.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I have a hard time faulting people for following a doctor's recommendation if that's what was going on.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    That’s overstating it. There wasn’t even a conversation about it let alone anything as strong as a doctor’s recommendation. More like a default hospital protocol. Which I’m sure you’d agree should be open to question.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    The first time I saw an un-circumcised penis was in porn when I was in my early 20s, I think. What little sex ed we had in the rural US in the '80s and early '90s didn't even have an image of one that wasn't circumcised so far as I recall. I thought it was some kind of birth defect or something.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    you beat me to that exact phrase 👍

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  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Who... how could... what?

    ... ah.

    "Parents have been concerned about this potential circumcision-autism connection, but hopefully these findings may help allay their fears," says senior author Monica McGrath, research professor in the Bloomberg School's Department of Epidemiology...

    Ah ok I understand now.

    "Parents".

    Bigotry against autists is so extreme that idiot religious extremists will actually consider one of their more barbaric, senseless, cherished traditions as negotiable, relative to the utter 'horror' of their children potentially being autistic.

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  • [–] 46 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You needed a study to know that circumcising doesn't cause brain structure differences?

    This IS idiocracy.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    Genital mutilation.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    Tell the religious people that circumcision causes trans women. At least that one could make sense to someone who's afraid of trans people.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The brain bone is connected to the..... Dick skin bone?

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  • [–] 75 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    You're against circumcision because you believe it causes autism.

    I'm against circumcision because I believe genitally mutilating non-consenting infants is an atrocity.

    We are not the same.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Agree and all, but to add - I road bike and run ultra marathons. When doing super long distances, you're gonna end up chafing a bit (probably). I would much rather my foreskin get the rub as opposed to THE SENSITIVE TIP OF MY DICK.

    You know what really hurts? Water hitting raw skin that's been rubbed in shorts or a bike bib for 4+ hours.

    I'm sure it will have negative long term impacts to my ability to be stimulated.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, something a lot of people don't realize is that circumcized dicks lose a lot of sensitivity due to the excessive friction they go endure throughout each day just by moving around normally.

    I read somewhere that intact dicks are basically a mucus membrane underneath the foreskin. That's wild, my dick skin is more like the skin on the back of my hand. No wonder people are so obsessed with sex, it must feel so damn good for uncircumcised people. Something I'll never experience. Damn religion.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago

    But it does mutilate the child's genitals.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    i’ve always compared it to eyelids

    skin flap helps keep a semi internal organ lubricated and protected

    technically not immediately necessary to function but results in major issues after prolonged absence

    people get super offended and upset because removing an eyelid would clearly be abuse

    lmao fucking americans

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  • [+] -15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    This is not even close to the same thing. Your argument is invalid. Stop being so upset about other people's genitals, it is fucking creepy.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    It's not the best analogy, sure. Your reaction is worse though. It's like reacting to someone who takes offence at hearing about a knife attack by saying "stop being so upset about other people's internal organs, it is fucking creepy".

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    I heard if the doctor doesn't click his heels 4 times after cutting the umbilical cord or if it is a woman doctor the baby will get the autism.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    What? Who are these people that were even linking these two things? I'm actually shocked I can still be surprised by stupidity.

    They should still stop doing it though.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago

    OK but it is still a barbaric practice and I don't see why we allow it. Just because it is culturally accepted does not make it OK.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    "Voting gives you autism!"

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Never thought it did.

    Still ain’t right.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Can we spread a lie that it does ?

    Idk what else will stop people from mutilating their child's genitals.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Culture needs to be developed where parents are explicitly asked are they mutalating their kids and feel the social pressure.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    In the UK, the way they made it go out of fashion is make it so the national health insurance didn't cover it anymore.

    I think that could work here.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Wait one thing american insurance has no problem covering is penis mutilation? Looking at this more - it is true though not covered by medicaid or if you're an adult. How fucking weird. I genuinely don't understand this but my bad here for trying to rationally explain this.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    How fucking weird. I genuinely don’t understand this

    Jeezus said so, that's why.

    If you keep digging and playing an adult game of "why?" you eventually come to that "reasoning." It's ultimately why we can't have nice things because religion falls to critical thinking skills, falls to history, falls to literature, and falls to the scientific method.

    It's like any other group of people: it's held up by people who've "paid their dues" and need younger people to buy into the system and feed it so the older folks can coast through the end of their life. The system is brutal to people who don't conform. They usually end up expelled from the group and left without resources to build back up again. It's why there are whole other support groups, as an example, to get people out of the LDS sphere of influence.

    And by the way, to you good people helping folks escape from the LDS: you would do well to read all the stories about whole chinese police departments working in North America, and what's going on with Flock, and LLMs gathering up data, and it all being available for purchase. I hope your OPSEC is up to having that light shined on you.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They should make it illegal

    It "going out of fashion" didn't stop my Jewish parents in the UK mutilating me

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    That's a good point. It won't stop Jewish parents. I feel like it would be hard to make it illegal without making a religious exception. But that's what needs to happen.

    I don't see it as any different than female genital mutilation, which is banned and illegal in most countries. Most people seem to be in agreement that it's not acceptable. Regardless of religion or cultural views of the individuals doing it. Why is this not applied to boys?

    I mean, I personally think allowing harm based on religion is just opening the door for any crime.

    "12 year old girls have to first have sex with an older male in their family because it's part of our religious beliefs"

    You can literally make up any horrors and say your religion requires it.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago

    Stop cutting bits off children, you complete wrong uns.

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