Doctor. Go to the doctor. You need to see the doctor. This is not in anyway normal. See the doctor. You need to see the doctor. Go see the doctor. This is a medical issue and you should see the doctor. See the doctor.

The last thing you should be doing is consulting Lemmy.

See a doctor.

"I’m sleeping very well"

People cant assess themselves for sleep issues, you are asleep, you cant tell whats happening. If you have central apnea you might be 'waking' 30 or 60 times per hour and never have a clue its happening. But the side effect is you never get to the recuperative level of sleep the body needs.

Do you have a carbon monoxide monitor? If not, get one ASAP.

See your doctor. This is not normal aging. Getting a Hypothyroid diagnosis can take years if you are one of the people for whom the blood test is garbage. Insist that your doctor get the full T4, T3 testing done. Sleep apnea is also one that can be hard to diagnose but leave you feeling fatigued.
You don't have a husband or live in partner that might be drugging you? In this day and age, it isn't as far fetched an idea as it once was.

This identical story was posted months ago. At the time OP argued with everyone saying a doctor can't help. Just argued with every suggestion.

As someone with massive sleeping issues - no, that is not normal.

As @alienzx@feddit.nl mentioned, it might be sleep apnea. make audio recordings of your sleep - it should be pretty obvious the moment you are able to get the first breath in again, it will probably be a pretty noisy event. If you have apnea: DONT DELAY SEEING YOUR DOCTORS. This condition causes brain damage over time, you dont want to wait this one out.

If it isn't that, get your bloodwork done, there's a load of things that might be an issue.

Honestly, talk to a health professional if you can. That doesn't sound normal.

Have you tried a pregnancy test?

Seriously, go to a doctor. That's not normal.

Did you have covid? Long covid has made people lethargic and I have some friends who only recently fully recovered.

Either way this is serious issue and you should see a doctor. This is not normal aging.

Are you absolutely certain no one is drugging you? Do you consume something every day that ANYONE else prepares for you? Try going a week living like Madeye Moody, only eat and drink things you make yourself, from groceries YOU buy, from a store you don't normally visit.

Do you have a gas water heater, oven, or furnace? Do you have a carbon monoxide detector? Is it mounted low on the wall? Have you tested it recently?

Do airplanes fly over you often? Do you or anyone you know use firearms often? If yes to either, when is the last time you had a blood lead level test?

It could be a vitamin or nutrient deficiency. A routine blood test at the Dr. can rule this out.

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People have also noticed that I’m moving slowly. I don’t drink alcohol, so this isn’t a hangover. It started rather gradually but is getting worse.

This symptom here is the most concerning. There's no way doctors are hearing that symptom and telling you everything is fine.

Are you the same user who posted about feeling this way and chalking it up to being over 30 years old and a woman a month ago or so?

This is not normal, and you should definitely go see a doctor. Soon.

Keep trying with your doctor, get another doctor if you need to. Doctors, even female doctors, are notorious for dismissing women's health complaints.

No, this is not a normal part of ageing.

Nope! I'm older than you and that doesn't happen. You probably need blood work done? I went through a time when I was exhausted constantly and was like "this must be middle age" but I had low iron and vitamin d.

Apnea tests immediately.

At the very least get or borrow any kind of smart device that can measure your SpO2 while you sleep. If it dips anywhere under 90, get the apnea test IMMEDIATELY.

As someone with sleep apnea, you have sleep apnea. You feel like that because your brain is not getting oxygen.

No that is not normal at all.

I saw replies saying you got a TSH test done. While this is the "gold standard" used for testing thyroid function, it's easily misleading. TSH levels are somewhat relative and do not tell the whole story. Doctors often label subclinically low TSH as "normal" but you may not feel normal.

The way hypothyroidism is diagnosed is dogshit these days and it's quite common (1/4 women, more common as you age). If you have only seen an MD and one who is not specialized in endocrinology, I would get a second opinion. My experience is that nurse practioners and DOs are more likely to take this seriously than MDs.

While it's possible it's something else, I wouldn't rule out hypothyroidism strictly from TSH. You can also request a wider thyroid panel that tests free/total T4 and T3, plus thyroid antibodies such as TPO. TSH only tests for the hormone telling your thyroid that your body needs hormones, it does not test for the hormones themselves. Additionally, it does not test for whether you have a thyroid autoimmune disease. This could lead to all your symptoms.

I've been through this struggle and known plenty of others who have as well (Hashimoto's, began in my mid/late twenties). Modern doctors underdiagnose the disease because of they leave it at a TSH test and will often shrug you off with a vitamin D prescription. Go to someone who specializes in this, check your symptoms against those of others and pay particular attention to how they describe how they feel. Trust your intuition about your own body and what feels normal.

Brain fog, body aches, feeling cold all the time, lethargy, waking up feeling like you can never get enough sleep or like your brain is awake but your body isn't, depression, hair loss, weight gain, poor appetite...these are all signs to look for, but unfortunately are shared with many diseases. You thyroid hormones control so much of your energy and everything surrounding it.

If this ends up being the problem, you can take a simple and cheap thyroid hormone replacement daily and everything will improve. There are natural and synthetic replacements, if you are put on one type and don't like it, try the other one. Synthetic T4 and T3 or armor thyroid/natural pig thyroid (contains T1-T4).

Good luck and I truly hope you can find how to feel better!

You need to see a doctor and get blood labs to start figuring this out. I'm an old woman and I can say it's not just age. If the first doctor dismisses you, they may be suffering from Female Symptoms Dismissal Syndrome and you should try another. Could be anything, including something serious like MS.

Have you been tested for sleep apnea? Might also be long COVID.

It's not normal ageing, unless you meant like 92. Have you mentioned how bad it is to a doctor? Been sick lately?

1. See a doctor
2. [If outside of the US] See a physcatrists about why you posted this on Lemmy Instead of seeing a doctor
3. [If inside the US] demand Medicare for all

I don’t know if anyone has said this, I didn’t go through all the comments, but be sure to probe depression or mood disorders. If you’re not active also definitely try adding a little bit of activity early every day even if you feel like you can’t, just let yourself tap out if you want but at least show up and start to see if you actually want to continue.

I am definitely NOT saying to not continue to probe medical reasons by any means. But feeling tired all the time can be a characteristic of mood disorders and it can be easy to misattribute just how physically tired that can make you for a physical ailment. It can also be hard to see it when you may have coped well with it your whole life, but are only now reaching the burnout from it.

*Said as a human not an expert at all.

Do you have an anxiety disorder? Anxiety can manifest physically in many different ways.

It could be sleep apnea. It could be allergies (sometimes you acquire them later in life). Could be that aliens are abducting you late at night and taking turns batting your titties around and you have amnesia about it.

Are you living alone? Start seeing doctors.

Are you living with one or more people? Start seeing the police. (edit: and then doctors)

Others have provided good advice. I'll only add that you might also think about celiac / gluten sensitivity. There's a wide range of possible symptoms there. You could just try cutting out gluten for a week or two and see if the situation improves, because it's not always easy to diagnose.

But yes, do talk to a doctor, and be prepared to push back and advocate for yourself if they brush you off.

Shot in the dark here, but consider L-methylfolate supplements. It’s the methylated form of folic acid (vitamin B9). Your symptoms line up extremely well with someone who is suffering from non-methylated folic acid, due to a mutation on the MTHFR gene.

Your body can’t use folic acid as-is. It needs to methylate it with an enzyme in your bloodstream (turning it into L-methylfolate) before it becomes biologically available.

Your body uses this biologically available L-methylfolate to break down something called homocysteine, which is a byproduct of producing DNA during cell replication. So the symptoms are caused by a 1-2 punch of your body working harder to replicate cells (because it doesn’t have the folic acid available to break down homocysteine when it is produced) and having too much homocysteine built up in your system (because it isn’t being broken down over time with folic acid.) High homocysteine levels contribute to all kinds of potential health effects, ranging everywhere from cardiopulmonary issues to brain fog.

And there is a gene mutation that causes you to stop producing that MTHFR enzyme, the same way you become lactose intolerant when you stop producing the enzyme to break down lactose. It usually happens in your late 20’s or early 30’s, so you’re right in expected timeframe for it to happen.

It’s not on most doctors’ radars, and testing folic acid levels on a blood test won’t help, because you probably have plenty of folic acid. Your cells simply can’t access it. So it tends to fly under the radar. Properly diagnosing it requires a gene test, which most healthcare providers won’t even think about unless you request it. Or I guess you could always just try the supplement and see if your symptoms improve.

The gene mutation is especially common in people who are AFAB, autistic, or Irish. I know because my wife is all three, and has the mutation. You can buy supplements on Amazon. Most people with the mutation take about 15mg of L-methylfolate per day, but suggest starting with about half that in the morning. It will likely keep you awake (and maybe give you a headache, oddly enough) at first, so start with just taking it in the morning. Then once you’re used to it, you can take a second one with dinner. Then you can simply move up to taking the full 15mg in the morning.

Obviously don’t start taking supplements without looking into it first. But at least this might give you another thread to tug on.

Omg go to the fucking doctor?!? No "could be B12 but I've been getting supplements" NO. Wtaf are you doing? If it's not B12 you would know because the doctor checked and your b12 was normal. Wtf are you doing asking the internet?

Get your thyroid levels checked. When I feel like this it's usually that I need more Synthroid.

Echoing: talk to a doctor. Keep talking to doctors until you figure out the problem.

Someone suggested it could be low b12, but I've been having the sublingual spray for months and there's no improvement.

If you suspect a B12 deficiency, get tested for it. With serious deficiency you'd likely also see low hemoglobin, low hematocrit, and low neutrophil count in your blood work. Just to be clear though: I'm not a doctor.

The vast majority of "sublingual" B12 is absorbed in the gut. Very little is absorbed through the mucosa. If you have a b12 absorption problem, you may need a B12 injection. You can either get one from a doctor or do it yourself with an insulin needle, if you're comfortable. I've had a B12 deficiency that couldn't be resolved with any form of oral B12 supplementation.

Get a physical.

Not necessarily, go see your medical provider. Could be thyroid or other issues.