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[–] 140 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Gotta be ragebait.

I sympathise with having "nightmare tenants" who trash the place, but fuck any Landlord who says you can't work from home because god forbid you use your home that you pay them for because you'd cause a bit more wear and tear than they would like.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    fuck any Landlord who says you can't work from home because god forbid you use your home that you pay them for because you'd cause a bit more wear and tear than they would like.

    Landlordism is in itself unethical. If you’re not using a home it belongs to the person who is making use of it. You shouldn’t have rights to leech wealth from them in perpetuity.

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  • [–] 62 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's that dog meme which I'm too lazy to even search for because I'm busy working to pay the rent: No Living! Just Rent!

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  • [–] 54 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

    Holy shit. I hope the top post is just satire.

    Edit: lmao, jury still out on this one

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I've seen some insane restrictions on what you can and can't do in apartments.

    Like in my apartment I'm only allowed to put an AC in 1 window of my apartment (the furthest from the bedrooms BTW), it can't be anything other than a portable AC, and any gap around the hose needs to be clear (glass, polycarbonate, acrylic, etc.) yes even the window insert that comes with the AC has to be clear. When I moved in I thought the insert around the hose that came with it not being clear would be fine, it in fact was not. It also has power draw restrictions so I can only basically get the smallest kinds on the market.

    I'm also required to have all windows and doors closed and locked when nobody is at home. Yes that means I have to pull my AC hose out of my window when I'm not home. I figured that out again the first year I lived in my apartment. (they rang my bell when I wasn't home, then sent me a certified letter informing me I had 72 hours to fix the problem or they would serve me notice to vacate.)

    Yes every summer it easily clears 90F (32C) inside and sometimes even breaks 100F (37C). And due to being an upstairs apartment that means the heat stays almost in it's entirety overnight.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    IANAL and I know not everyone can afford one to fight bs like this, but none of that sounds legally enforceable.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    That's the big problem really, affording the ability to fight shit like this.

    I'm unfortunately in such a situation where I wouldn't be able to fight it if they tried to evict me for it.

    Though my home state now makes it so they have to allow us to install one, it doesn't mention them being unable to put restrictions on it's install. One of those fun things where it's better than it used to be it's still not perfect. But steps in the right direction is always a plus.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago (18 children)

    Do landlords not understand that pulling this shit is why tenants poor grease down the sink😭

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (17 children)

    Pulling this shit is how you get bad tenants

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    There are no "bad tenants", because that would imply inconveniencing landlords and costing them money is morally wrong. It's not, it's funny as hell😭

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    100% they’re bad tenants. They’re also people who never want to own, they’re people that will never be able to afford to own. There will always be a need for land lords

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Well... No? You're assuming a system where you have to pay for housing.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Which is essentially every where, that’s life.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Sure, under our current system. But you said there will always be a need for landlords, which I take issue with. But housing doesn't have to operate the way it does now. There's a variety of ways to pay for people to have housing under a money-based system, like through taxes. The soviet union had housing cooperatives. Hell, you don't even need to go that far, housing prices are currently so high because we allow massive real estate corporations to buy up property to artificially inflate price. Government regulation on real estate as an industry would serve to lower housing prices. At the very least, make it so they can't just sit on vacant homes.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    But that’s IF the government would build said housing. Or it takes it away from owners which is fucked. I’m all for government owned housing if they will build it and maintain it. It could lower housing prices and rents, your right if they build enough of them where needed

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Only within a relatively recent stretch of history, before that you only needed to pay for fancy stuff (think pyramids or castles or whatnot)

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (5 children)

    Nah that's stupid. Why do you presume to know that there will "always" be a need for landlords? People thought there would always be kings until democracy developed, people thought there would always be nobility until capitalism emerged and rendered the land-based social relationships that defined feudal nobility meaningless. You lack imagination.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    Ok, in our life times we will always need landlords. I know future generations could have a different setup. We can’t product the future. Maybe AI will lead to government built housing and UBI. We don’t know.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Are you 80? I absolutely plan on living past the end of (at least most) landlordism.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    I think you don’t realize how slow it will be to get to that point. I am a land lord, what’s the government going to do, take my land and property?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Individual landlords would not be a priority for me, I would start by prohibiting LLCs from owning residential property, convert existing apartment complexes into residential co-ops/condos, and force existing corporate landlords to sell their properties to individual buyers at a cost determined by the state.

    For individual landlords, I'd just prohibit them from acquiring new properties they don't live in themselves, and make it illegal to transfer ownership of a rental property to anyone else unless they intend to live in it (eg via inheritance, sale, etc.).

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  • [–] 86 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    They cannot enforce no working from home. God damn those parasites are so fucking out of touch

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    "Where you work" is not a protected characteristic in the US. Plenty of places where a landlord could throw this clause into the lease, and if they can prove you violated it, they can start eviction proceedings.

    It would be very difficult to prove, and the ensuing legal battle may cost more than the "additional maintenance" that may be required, but in theory these bastards can do pretty much whatever they want.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I know, the where you work isn't protected, but bring a rental has the implicit use of being a domicile, with all the freedoms associated with it

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I guess it depends on what freedoms you associate with being a domicile. Plenty of leases have specific restrictions in the agreement that are enforceable as long as they don't explicitly conflict with local laws. No smoking, no pets, etc are all valid and enforceable clauses to put in a lease. I've signed leases saying "guests can't stay longer than 24 hours" without batting an eye.

    Requiring a tenant to be out of the house 8 hours per day is odd and difficult to prove, but if you sign a lease that says it, I don't see how you wouldn't be accountable to it.

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  • [–] 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Ooh, I actually know a little bit about this!

    A property owner can put whatever TF restrictions they want in the lease—and they often do! But just because it's in a contract doesn't mean it's legal (e.g. contract to kill).

    Let's say a property owner finds out their tenant is working from home. They claim a violation of the lease and start eviction proceedings. That's dumb AF.

    • This would only ever be used as an excuse for a tenant they don't like.
    • If it came before a judge, even they would be like, "WTF?" And would probably not demand an explanation, but instead would point to mountains of case law that say a property owner can't dictate what people can and can't do within a rental property as long as those activities don't impact the property (e.g. the value).
    • That's when the property owner would have to explain how Joe Schmoe working from home is somehow worse than retiree Judy Anywoman who stays at home all day every day.
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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh yeah, as I said, it's a very difficult thing to prove and absolutely not worth the money wasted trying to enforce it. But there's no rule saying dogs can't play basketball. If a landlord wants to put it in, and a tenant knowingly signs it, the tenant needs to be prepared for the possibility of this turning into a huge pain in the ass.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    This does depend on where you live. I have had pets in every "no pets" lease I've ever had because in my area its unenforceable and not an envictable offence unless under very specific circumstances, usually the landlord would have to be living in the same building and have an allergy to pets to be able to enforce a no pets rule.

    Theres lots of bullshit landlords will put in a lease because they think whatever they write is law but there are often certain standards that apply regardless of what the lease says.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Depending on the jurisdiction.

    No businesses from home is a relatively common condition in a lease and co-op ownership contract, especially if the business involves people constantly visiting the home or turns the mailroom into a warehouse.

    It is the equivalent of a lease banning a person from setting up an Airbnb in the unit they rented.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I don't want you to wear out my two-dollar light switch!! Waaah

    But also:

    Rent this month is $2,200, and you'd better not be late, or you're a dead motherfucker.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    That's illegal in my country.

    The only power a landlord has here is when people break stuff on purpose, cause actual disturbance or do not pay. Stuff like race, dogs, job and all that type discrimination is not allowed.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    While pet ownership and any sort of discrimination is not allowed in Norway, renters here view in envy at our neighbours regulated renting markets, especially the lowlanders in Denmark. But what hurts the progression here the most right now, is that up to 80 % of adults own their homes, so regulating for the lower 20 % will never be a priority, since that might hurt most people.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    This is why I treat it like a rental. When I was renting my deposit was 10 days of rent and I didn't expect to get it back because I knew from someone else leaving that the landlord was a wanker.

    I started homebrewing when I lived there, had a batch explode and splatter honey water all across the room. I quickly learnt to avoid the patches of carpet that were sticky. Knowing that the landlord wouldn't repay the deposit without me taking him to court anyway, I didn't bother cleaning it up.

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  • I've been in the same place for over a decade, the deposit I'd like back but the place is kinda infamous for nickle and dime issues to keep as much as possible. Also the new management company have been sticklers for keeping things "clean" without saying what the standard is. I wipe up when I make a mess, sweep and mop when it's worth my time. Still, they made a stink that I wasn't perfect. So now I pour oil down the kitchen sink.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago*

    Well maybe if the entire property wasn't done up with the landlord special of tippex on walls and the world's cheapest laminate floors they'd be able to hold up to the rigours of minor usage.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Lmao I literally spent $2 and 10 minutes replacing an outlet on my rental the other day to avoid having to deal with my landlord

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Come on people. Don't be so hard on the landlord. If you don't leave for work, when is he supposed to go through your underwear drawer?

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  • [+] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I knew a guy that planted horseradish in his backyard garden, and within a couple of years it had taken over his entire backyard, with these big, ugly stalks.

    He had plenty of great, sinus-clearing, eye-watering horseradish, though.

    Since then, I've always thought that surreptitiously sticking a stick of horseradish in an enemy's yard would be an excellent revenge strategy. By the time they realize there is a problem, it will already be way too late.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Ok, but can I still flip the switch on and off rapidly pretending its a lightning storm.

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  • [–] 46 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I’m a landlord and I don’t care, the house is meant to be used. I’m not using it and your paying me to use it so have at it, it’s my job to save enough of your rent to fix stuff as it fails

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, my tenants have got a dog and we keep the white goods in working order for them. I don’t need them to pay off my mortgage, just want to treat them with the respect I’d want my landlord to treat me with.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    Yes because rent is supposed to cover my investment costs as well as provide passive income. What do you mean my investment is bound to the property? This is only true when I sell it and cash out once again.

    Landlord 101

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    The term landlord dates back to feudalism. This is insanity.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago*

    Saw a video where a couple who rent their home as an AirBNB were bitching that their tennants used the beds. In the very next scene, they bitched that the guests didn't eat the snacks in the kitchen.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    Bold to out yourself as a landlord

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    Fuck landlords

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    And no teachers unless they teach summer school too

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  • Sounds like you shouldn’t be fucking landlording, then, because if I pay rent, I can do literally whatever the fuck I want that’s non-destructive and doesn’t disturb my neighbors.

    What a consummate tool, holy fuck.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    The new customer service protocols seem to be "Gimme your money, here's your thing, now get out. What? You want the thing to work, too? We got your money, you got your thing, now get the fuck out of here, until you need another one, then come back and see me."

    This landlord took the guy's money and gave him a lease, now the guy expects to actually LIVE there, too?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I’m currently going through this with Apple, whom I thought would care more about their reputation and repeat custom. I guess they don’t. Fuck you, Apple. Fix the faulty overpriced shit I paid for.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    What if I'm retired and don't work at all? What if I work but I have a kid who stays home all day? What if I care for someone who's bedridden, but I also have a job, and I hire a nurse to be here while I'm away. What if I hire a maid to work the whole time I'm away at work? What if I invite five friends over after work every night? What if I'm obese, are you gonna cry about me wearing out the floor twice as fast because I weigh as much as two people? What's your policy on pacing, am I limited to a certain number of laps per day? If I'm clinically underweight, can I get an exception since I don't wear out floors as quickly?

    What if I'm in a wheelchair, do I get a discount for not wearing out the floor as much? What if I work two jobs and am thus home only half the time, what about then?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    they're trying everything they can to greed the fuck out of people

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Time to dust off the ol’ guillotine

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    What the actual flying fuckmonkeyshit piss brain kind of assholery is this????

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