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[–] 296 points 3 months ago (6 children)

If 40 year old consoles can resume back to normal, so should 10 year old consoles.

However, it should be noted that the PS3 is now 20 years old.

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  • [–] 108 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    the PS3 is now 20 years old

    OutRAGEOUS misinformation...

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  • [–] 175 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    Uhh.. Yes I do expect it to resume back to normal. Why the fuck wouldn't it?

    Sure, if I connect it to the internet I expect all sorts to updates to be missing. But offline? 1 day or 100 years shouldn't make any difference. OK the CMOS battery might be flat.

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  • [–] 111 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    OK the CMOS battery might be flat.

    Arent they mostly flat to begin with? Sorry.... I couldn't help it.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    YOUR MOM IS MOSTLY FLAT TO BEGIN WITH.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    The case in the tweet wasn't a hardware problem. Apparently the person's PSN account had gotten deleted during their 10+ years of not using it, and downloaded games attached to the account didn't work any more.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Imagine if some Sony executive broke into your house and stole the games off your shelf because you hadn't played them for a long time. Thats what happened here.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    And

    1. the account shouldn't have been deleted

    2. the account being deleted shouldn't stop the downloaded games from working.

    Both are Sony's fault

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    especially considering your account takes up..what..a few dozen megabytes at most? its nothing but a database with what games you bought digitally.

    its 100% purely an attempt to get customers to double dip on buying shit by exploiting changes in life that take people away from their recreation.

    have a elderly relative take a bad turn and suddenly need 24/7 care? According to Sony, thats a great, monetizable event.

    suffer a terrible injury that takes you years to recover? Sony's Salivating over the potential of taking everything away from you, so you can buy it again to relive the "good days"

    have to join the military and spend years from home? Your trauma is dolladolladollar signs for Sony's executive department.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Even for accounts that haven't gone inactive, I'm sure they've considered disabling games for older generation games. "Continuing to play PS4 games rather than buying a PS5 is theft!!!"

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  • [–] 88 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Still have a slim PS2 and wouldn’t you know it, it still plays all the games I bought for it.

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  • [–] 58 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Amazing. Maybe we could reverse-engineer it and figure out how the ancients achieved this technology.

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  • [–] 87 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Who wouldn't? It's such a weird thing to assume it shouldn't just work (assuming no hardware failure at least).

    If I turn on a PC from 10 years ago it'll boot up and run the applications installed on it.

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  • [–] 66 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Gen Z grew up in this broken world. They don't know any better. They don't understand what it means to own something.

    That's the plan, actually.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Many Gen Z grew up with Wii's and Xbox's which used physical media. I was never allowed to own an Xbox, but I did have a Wii. I think a lot of us have memories of putting in game CDs. The cutoff for that might be Gen Alpha.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Could be.

    Specific age boundaries aside, the younger people are, the less experience they have of owning physical things, and the stranger the world as it used to be sounds to them. They live in a curated world of continually obsoleted technology they don't own fed a diet of propaganda pushing technology and its proponents as saviors and not oppressors.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Yeah, there's definitely a range. I'm gen z and we never really had game consoles, so I grew up mostly gaming on a Mac (do not recommend, although I think the translation layer situation has improved since then). I also have memories of putting in tapes, cartridges, and floppy disks to my parents' old Atari and Commodore computers (both of which actually worked great after having not been used for like >30 years)

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Because we’ve been conditioned to think that putting in a disc means a quick 5GB update to install…come back in 20 min

    It’s been incremental but the landscape of gaming is now a casino with games, not games with betting.

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  • [–] 73 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    "You expect the things you paid for and bought to still be there later?"

    Yes, you corporate nut sucking fuck nugget, I do.

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  • [–] 63 points 3 months ago

    Haha, I was selling a whole racing chair/wheel/shifter combo for my partner's dad and he got it for the PS3, so it came with around 10 games. I used dirt to test it, ended up deciding to keep it for myself in the end.

    BUT my account and downloaded games also worked, because I didn't hook it up to the Internet (which after reading this I shall never do).

    That shit should be illegal. They should be charged with theft and treated accordingly, or at the least get the shit kicked out of them; the way we used to treat thieves in the good old days.

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  • [–] 63 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Sony should fucking refund me for every one of my games that I bought that stops working

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  • [–] 58 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    | You expect a 10yr old console to resume back to normal?

    Yes? I recently considered trading in my old Xbox 360, but when I booted it up I discovered I still had around a hundred games still stored locally.

    After the wave of nostalgia subsided, I realized how lucky I was. Keeping that bad boy forever.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Weeelllllllll... until it red rings at least.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Luckily, it's one of the cases which can be fixed with a little oven time

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    thats a temporary bandaid that can shorten the life of other things on the board.

    its been years, but IIRC the only actual fix for the issue, besides getting an xbox 360 slim, was to have someone with the tools and know how remove and reball the CPU and GPU with good quality leaded solder.

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  • [–] 51 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I've been using my Hotmail account since 1998. I can log in right now and go back and read all the stupid emails my friends and I were sending each other in high school 28 years ago. And I've never paid a cent for that Hotmail account. And my cartridge games still have my saves.

    So yeah, I do expect that.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    And my cartridge games still have my saves.

    they might not much longer, batteries and finite life and all that.

    but at least you can slap new batteries in them and the game will still fucking work, and not permanently taken away from you because you took to long to go back and replay it.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    also, cartridges are repairable.

    Battery dies?

    Easily replaced.

    save ROM fails? Easily replaced.

    board eaten by corrosion? 98% chance someones reverse engineered it and posted the pcb design files online for you to get made via one of the PCB companies.

    Hell, even if the chip holding the game itself dies, you can replace it and flash the new game from a rom file and be back to playing on your console again, at relatively minimum cost.

    But modern disk gets scratched? Hope it still works.. If it doesnt, well, you're only hope is modding the console to boot a burnable disk or buy a new copy.

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  • [–] 102 points 3 months ago (23 children)

    SNES/GBA game saves erasing due to batteries 😭

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  • [–] 69 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    You’re telling me I’m going to have to replace the batteries and replay chrono trigger and Pokémon emerald again? Oh the horror

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Pokemon Emerald's battery is only there for real time clock functions. Saves remain intact even after the battery runs dry.

    Gen I and II games used the battery for save data, however.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah you’re right. Bad example.

    Looking at the list on Console Mods I’m actually surprised how many GBA games do use a save battery when a lot of games clearly didn’t need it for saves. Did the battery allow for faster saving, or maybe just cheaper cartridges?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago*

    It was a cost/availability thing. SRAM was used all over the place prior to the GBA (and for some early GBA games) because FRAM and flash memory was expensive at the capacities needed.

    Funnily enough, most games that use SRAM can have the chip swapped out for an FRAM chip, and they will no longer need a battery. (Actually you move the ROM chip from the SRAM board to the FRAM board) The two types of RAM present identically to the game's software, so it just works.

    The Pokemon games use Flash RAM with 2x-4x the capacity of the SRAM and FRAM chips most other games used. There was also EEPROM for games with small save files.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Just play on an emulator. Save states anywhere you want.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    If you have VR, I highly recommend EmuVR for all console emulator needs.

    Plopping yourself on the ground in front of an actual CRT is such a different and incomparably better experience than playing them on flat LcD screens, it really pleasantly suprised me.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'm guessing the VR applies some type of CRT like filter to the virtual CRT? Or is it just a nostalgia thing?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Kind of both. It's basically a frontend for emulators, where you are in a most archetypal 80s room, with a large CRT TV that runs the emulator, and you get all your roms as physical discs/cartriges on your shelf, with emu cores being actual consoles you connect to the TV, put a disk/cartridge in, and then you can sit in front of the TV and play.

    It's extremely immersive, the games feel so much better on an "actual" CRT TV.

    https://youtu.be/73XVOeRuu9A?t=237 It's not as apparent in 2D without VR, but you can get an idea at this timestamp.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    And with how small most save files are, you can even store them in a folder on a cloud service without taking much space. So if something happens to your computer for drive with your legally backed up personal cartridge and disc images... You still have those save files.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    GBA? The kids these days. I have an original Zelda cart for the NES that still holds save data.

    My Atari VCS (this was before they were calling it the "2600") was manufactured in 1978. It's 48 years old, and if I slap E.T. into that son of a bitch, it plays.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    the og atari and nes were video game consoles.

    a 'modern' console is just a required hardware device to access a subscription service and game rentals falsely advertised as purchases.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If I drop an RPG for a month I have difficulty picking back up my ongoing savegame. I can't imagine how hard it would be to continue a 30 year old savegame.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    I'm mostly referring to completed saves of Kirby and DKC-franchise. The first is a collection of games you have to unlock, so if you just wanted to play in the arena mode, then you'd have to play through a whole lot more just to unlock it.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Oh, saves are saved on the cartridge, not the console? Or am I misunderstanding something?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Nearly every cartridge-based system up to the 3DS saves to the cartridge. But many older cartridge games from that era (SNES, GBC, sometimes GBA) used volatile SRAM that needs to be constantly powered with an internal battery. When the battery dies, the save is wiped and it can no longer hold a save, though you can always open the cart up and replace the battery.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    And what people will do for a save game they really care about (like childhood Pokémon carts) is back up the save onto PC, replace the battery in the cart, then put the save back onto the cart. Very clever. I want to get one of the readers that lets you back up carts, they're not that expensive

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  • [–] 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, I expect that.

    Just shake out the mouse turds and plug that fucker in

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  • [–] 37 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    it's weird how the same console would have still worked fine if it were modded and had pirated games on it

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I bought my NES with my own money in 1988ish after saving up for months. If I go downstairs and power it on right now, I'm certain Tetris will fire right up.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I am less certain. Cartridges dont exactly age well. I had enough trouble with them in the 90s.

    I dont mean to defend not owning our games, just saying cartridges were not perfect either.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago

    tfw i turn on my ps1 to play final fantasy 7 and my save where i go on a date with barret is still there.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago*

    Sony is legit the only company I know of that stores shit you bought on their servers and will delete your shit if you're not active on the account for over a set period of time (in their case it's 3 years, if I am remembering right). Nobody else has a time limit for inactivity.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    My Sega Genesis from 94 boots up and plays the games That were purchased back then whenever I want it to…

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I just bought Shadow Dancer and whaddayaknow, it just started after I plugged in the cart. Great game btw.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I’ve never heard anybody else talk about this game. But on Sega Genesis, there’s this puzzle game called zoop. It takes a second or two to teach yourself how to play it. But it’s crazy Addictive

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