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[–] 274 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Nah fuck the usa corruption shit too. And the shit usa put visiting countries through

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  • [–] 62 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    I would have expected people to be more angry at the US's actions than Argentina's.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Trump%E2%80%93FIFA_red_card_controversy

    During the 2026 World Cup, FIFA suspended the implementation of a one-game suspension that United States men's national soccer team player Folarin Balogun had received after he was sent off in a round of 32 match victory against the Bosnia and Herzegovina national team for a foul on Tarik Muharemović. Balogun's suspension was delayed for a probationary period of one year under the Article 27 authority of the FIFA Disciplinary Code. United States president Donald Trump had directly called FIFA president Gianni Infantino asking him to review the red card decision. The decision allowed Balogun to participate in the United States' Round of 16 match against Belgium despite the red card remaining in effect. Belgium won the match 4–1, with Balogun playing almost the entire match

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2026_FIFA_World_Cup_controversies

    Another controversy, similar to when the events were hosted in Russia and Qatar, involves host countries immigration policies. The controversy during the 2026 FIFA World Cup, United States immigration and visa policies under the second Trump administration, which have affected players, officials, journalists, and fans from several qualified nations. A travel ban affecting citizens of 39 countries—including World Cup participants Haiti, Iran, Ivory Coast, and Senegal—has prevented most ordinary fans from those countries from obtaining visas to attend matches in the United States, though exemptions were granted for athletes, coaches, and essential support staff, as well as dual citizens, permanent residents, and valid visa holders. A separate visa bond program initially required fans from five African nations to pay deposits of up to $15,000, a requirement that was temporarily suspended in May 2026 for ticketed fans. Iraqi striker Aymen Hussein was detained for seven hours upon arrival at O'Hare International Airport, while Somali referee Omar Artan was denied entry and was unable to officiate at the tournament.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I think it's because football fans have been dealing with this crap from Argentina basically ever. They are a dirty and underhanded team at all times, and that generates hatred from championship to championship.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I'm sorry but the way they played was the way everyone played 30 years ago. It's up to the referees, with more tools than ever, to implement the rules, and they did. Playing rough, or even playing negatively, are not against the rules or any less valid. It didn't work for them last night and yes for neutrals it's never as good, but this is sport not sports entertainment.

    If everyone played exactly the same it would be boring. And as international transfers homogenise everything, we don't have Brazil playing jogo bonito, we don't have Ireland playing I-cant-believe-its-not-gaelic-football, we don't have Germans playing elaborate sweeper systems. At least Argentina are pretty much the same as they were when Maradona played, and Sivori before him - tough, ugly and liable to produce individual magic. They have an identity. I don't know why anyone is surprised at them retaining it, or it nearly being successful. Again.

    There's a reason people watched Mike Tyson as much as they watched Muhammad Ali.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    That is simply not true, no one has played like this, not 30 years ago or ever, things like this (https://imgur.com/nEfw1Tr) are not acceptable on a football field and never have been and things like this (https://imgur.com/tuvOdJ1) are not acceptable on a stadium and never have been.

    There is no coordinated campaign against argentina either out of envy or strange unknown interests, It is an accumulation of years playing outside the rules, playing "roughly" does go against the rules, the rules are explicitly for that, scoring a goal with your hand is illegal and should embarrass whoever scores it if the referee does not realize it, It's not something about "smart people" it's something about cheaters and obviously the rest of us don't like anyone to win that way, I don't think it's anything surprising

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    The racism is disgusting and I happily cheered Spain to win because of that and other factors like Spain's support for Palestine. There is plenty of racism in Spanish football too but it is not overtly adopted by the squad itself.

    Your first screenshot could be from any 80s Serie A game, any 90s Premier League game, any 00s League of Ireland game, and any game in South America yesterday. As someone who actually goes to football matches, what happens on the pitch frequently fails to make it to the screen. It's just unavoidably televised at the World Cup.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    There are no examples of top-level teams doing anything similar; yes, there have been bad or mediocre teams doing things like that, but it's something that tournaments have been trying to curb for a long time, it's not something to boast about and take to the highest level, as Argentina has done so many times.

    The same goes for racism; many Spanish fans chant nonsense believing it's justified in the stadium. The difference is that the press, institutions, and society are ashamed of it and try to shame those who do it, instead of justifying and defending it with things like "Well, it's just the game."

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Not "the USA", the government of it run by stupid psychotic criminals. Or do you think every Russian citizen living day to day on the edge is responsible for what Putin does too?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I mean, did almost 50% of the voting population elect Putin twice? Cuz personally that’s where I draw the line for blaming the entire country vs just the government for the government’s actions.

    Worth noting though, blaming the country doesn’t mean blaming every citizen like you’ve implied - obviously a lot of people have done everything they can and aren’t complicit in this, I just think when there’s better than even odds that a random American either didn’t vote or voted for trump that a few good apples don’t redeem the bunch.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Eventually it's going to come out that the majority did not vote for Trump. Right now they're in charge so they're able to define the narrative enough. Remember when he said it doesn't matter what the popular vote is because he had all the votes he needed? This was before counting even began. Musk was also meddling with the voting systems, or more accurately people he was paying were because he's a low grade moron. It was not legitimate.

    I strongly suspect that not only did Trump actually lose, it was by a very wide margin. It will come out eventually.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    This would genuinely improve my faith in humanity so much if true, so I really hope you end up being right. It doesn’t change my outlook until then, but a little hope never hurt anyone lol

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    According to their surveys Putin has enjoyed very high approval rating from Russians, almost since he came into power. Putin started with a 31% approval rating when he arrived in office in 2000, however the growing economic turn around of the 2000s rapidly pushed him to an 80%. Since then it has maintained a minimum of 60%, Trump however is at 38% most recently.

    Now keep in mind Putin was elected 5 times. 5.

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  • [–] 58 points 3 months ago (21 children)

    Didn’t watch it at all, what did Argentina do?

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  • [–] 84 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    With the exception of Messi, they all played like petulant, dirty thugs all through the world cup. Especially against Egypt in their quarter-final and against Spain in the final. They also politicized the semi-final against England with a stupid banner.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    They also started a fistfight after they lost the final and turned their backs on Spain when they received the trophy.

    Honestly, this team should be disqualified from the next world cup, but instead they're being celebrated.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Messi was trying to get Cucurella red card. Cucurella was showing him that the other player was hit in the mouth and Messi started telling the referee that he covered his mouth to insult him. Was arguing that Cucurella should get red card for this. Incredibly desperate and pathetic.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You can't say Messi isn't a thug when he is bribing the refs

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, if there's bribing going on there's no guarantee it's Messi doing it. Given his long career and the fact he's (as far as I hear; I don't watch football) the only one not playing like a thug, I'd say it's much more likely someone is bribing them for him.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    fc barcelona was bribing the second powerfull man in spains referee organisation for 20 years+, got caught by the guardia civils financial division and they're still debating if there should be some sort of consequences. meanwhile most of the charges became time-barred.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    The final wasn't a very good game. They didnt try to score at all in regulation and were clearly hoping to keep it at 0/0 to bring it to a shootout at the end.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I think you missed a few things out.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Pure ignorance I'm sure. I know nothing about FIFA and little about Argentina, just watched the game yesterday and was disappointed that it was in no way competitive.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Imho (not a huge football expert, nor enthousiast), it was quite competitive. Both teams were so active to give neither one the chance to score until in the last minutes they put all of their energy into it to surprise the other one. I know, that it can be seen as boring (I also kinda thought the same most of the time), but damn... the response to the opportunities where quite fast and saved most of the goals. But imo Spain had much better gameplay and opportunities. Shame of those offsides

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    I can tell you are not a football enthusiast, that game was ass. Spain should've won by 3 to 0, there were two goals annulled by skin of the teeth technicalities. Argentina did nothing the whole game, except try to injure Spanish players in the hopes of a penalty result. Everyone knew this was going to be the case, but the magnitude was off the charts. Argentina was humiliated from a pure sport technical ability alone. Spain dominated the way I would expect a premiere league team to dominate a group of disorganized amateurs. It was honestly a bit painful to watch. Argentina was not competitive in the slightest, that was not how a game between two equally skilled teams typically goes. Watch England vs. France semi-finals for a better example of what high level play between matched teams actually looks like.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Can you enlighten us? I didn't watch the game either.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    The whole competition they’ve been dragging the sport into the gutter. They’ve constantly been aggressively fouling as much as they can and they seem to have been getting away with so much there’s been a bit of a pattern. Lots of theories but I think FIFA saw this as an opportunity to break into the American market and wanted some drama, hence trying to get Messi into the finals for a dramatic finish. Early in the tournament Messi tackled someone and it should’ve been a red card but the ref didn’t even call the foul. The whole tournament for them has been overly aggressive tackles, pushing and shoving, shirt pulling, diving and general flouting of the rules and poor sportsmanship. It seemed like the ref in the final didn’t turn a blind eye quite so much and they finally got shown a red after literally hitting a player so hard he flipped upside down in the air.

    Accusations of bias and terrible behaviour have folllowed them the whole tournament but they kind of became a talking point after they beat England and pulled out a flag saying that the Falklands are Argentinian which was a clear breach of the rules that says that political stuff isn’t allowed. Then it got really highlighted when they played Spain, who were disciplined and professional, against Argentina who were playing in their regular aggressive fashion, and the contrast just made Argentina look like a bunch of hooligans. Then when the game was over a substitute player ran onto the pitch to celebrate with the team and one of the Argentinian players punched him. The Spanish confronted him and the Argentinians escalated it multiple times.

    in the end the Argentinians more or less became the baddies of the World Cup. This came the day after the Bronze game between England and France which was basically an example of excellent behaviour and sportsmanship (I don’t recall a single yellow card). After the match the teams congratulated each other and hung around on the pitch chatting and joking with each other.

    Edit

    Also forgot to mention there’s a new rule where players aren’t allowed to cover their mouthes in an argument, in order to stamp out things like racism. If they do it’s an automatic red card. Messi tried to use it to get a Spanish player sent off for touching his mouth. It didn’t work but everyone saw Messi try it.

    Edit

    My English here was terrible. Unfortunately it is my first language; at least you know it’s not written by AI.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You watched a different game. Spain didn’t even let Argentina get the ball for the majority of the game.

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  • [–] 52 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Argentina hate is uniting the world

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    They really should play rugby with all that grabs and tackles

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago*

    I didn't watch, because of corrupt FIFA and Temu Hitler

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    I didn't like that the US and Canadian broadcasts always had to pan to the corrupt stooge Infantino a couple times every game, during play, but I did like that I could hear the stadium crowd or my local watch party crowd boo each time.

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    [–] 49 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Fuck the US though. In fact, fuck the World Cup too.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago

    Nah. Fuck the USA and FIFA both.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Why isn't Paraguay shunned anymore? They played like thugs against most teams, famously against France.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Probably because everyone generally hates the French more.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    They were scumbags against most teams not just the French. Mussiala, who I've never seen rilled up, had a flying tackle against Paraguay. I've watched Copa America and even for that competition this was over the top. Argentina just has a bigger profile but similar filthy players.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    I'm so glad the US didn't win like that with all the political bullshit. It would've looked like we cheated our way in had we progressed any further, once ol' shittypants waded in.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    As a non soccer fan, I don't get it. Why don't we like Argentina? Don't they have a pretty strong team?

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They played incredibly dirty, fouled nonstop, deserved even more red cards than they got, at the same time they played super lame football, debated with the referee nonstop, were disrespectful to the winning team afterwards and physically assaulted a Spanish player after the game without any provication from the other side.

    Rarily has a team in the finals misbehaved more than that.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    And on top of all of that, corrupt FIFA will look the other way and do nothing about it because they're currently the princesses of the football world. There's just too much money tied to sponsorships that depend on Argentinian stars, so FIFA will do everything in their power to keep the money flowing, even if that means tolerating a team that undermines sportsmanship and integrity. FIFA went through a corruption crisis in 2015 and learned absolutely nothing.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Everyone has always hated Argentina, and kind of argentinians (not based on racist motives, they are just incredible ass holes and sore losers). When I recently saw Swiss people hating on them, that was the last straw.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Fuck that shit, Qatar's behaviour in the match against Canada was deplorable.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Argentina lost the final match. And afterward, in its confusion, one of the players punched a spanish player in the neck.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I'm not denying that Paredes is an asshole, and that he should be shunned. Can't talk for the rest of the Argentina team, haven't watched any of their games. However, I am questioning classifying Qatar (and the US as well, as per the top voted comment) as a team being thank-worthy.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Argentina, Paraguay, and the USA ; should be banned from the next world cup.

    In a world where FIFA isn't the second most corrupt organisation on earth, that is (second to the United States government).

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    nah, I think it's pretty fucking embarassing for every country that took part in it. including my own.

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    Argentina did quietly what germany tried to do loudly, it exterminated everyone not white from it's country, but nobody hates on them enough because they are in south america and nobody looks there. I'm glad people are realizing how shitty they are

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    So they killed all people of color in concentration camps?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    No Love, they didn't even needed to be that loud. You should look into it. Educatio is always a win

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Is there an actual thing I can look up? Apartheid or racism in Argentina?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    There is a place called Google.com where you can find papers published by historians, researchers, sociologist and etc telling the story.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    So, here you are making claims that you don’t provide any concrete references for. You don’t provide names of perpetrators or victims, years or places. Not even a name for an event such as „the Holocaust“ or „the Napoleonic Wars“. All you did was vaguely hint at „the Argentinians did something“ that might be understood as genocide. In fact you didn’t even mention genocide or holocaust. It was just „what the Germans tried to do loudly“ which could be taking a shit for all I know.

    So, this way of answering my honest questions is giving me the feeling that you might believe a lot but you don’t know much. I‘m not convinced that whatever you’re claiming happened ever took place.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    No we can't. I hate football (soccer for you USians) with a passion greater than those that love it, and I can't avoid it, even though I desperately try.

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