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[–] 54 points 4 months ago

Not only will I not buy us booze if back on the shelves but I actively avoid buying any american products if possible and I will never travel there again in my life time. Fuck the pedophile and all who support him and the others who are full of apathy and avarice and sit idly by.

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  • [–] 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

    This like all the other trade that is disappearing to the EU is going to become a permanent change. Prior allies now view the US as an enemy and aggressor and are forming alternative routes of trade. This will not be returning just because the president is changed in the future. The relationship is over.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Yeah that's what I think as well, because Trump is just a symptom of a larger issue, he represents a large percentage of americans, especially amonght the rich, he did not get to this position without the backing of these greedy fascist pigs who know they can use him to make a lot of profit at the expense of the common people, even when he's gone, these foreign nations still have to deal with these greedy sociopaths and their meddling in foreign affairs, not to mention the dumb voting public who might just back another little Nazi who makes them feel good about themselves

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    I was thinking the other day how funny it is that the Untied States has had such wide influence that multiple IPs from other countries got movies made in America (Harry Potter, Smurfs, LEGO, The Handmaid'sTale). Now that Trump has ruined America's relationship with the rest of the world, I wonder if we'll see less of that

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I can only hope that the US snaps back hard managing to show the world that there are still good people here...maybe after civil war 2 electric boogaloo

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Unless there is a Nuremberg style trial for the current administration, I don't know how America can gain back it's trust.

    Even if Americans elect a president that is super helpful/generous to allies, there is always the chance that they elect another Trump in the following election who basically has almost free reign to do anything they want with no consequences.

    The constitution that Americans beat over everyone's heads has been revealed to be republican toilet paper.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, Trump has exposed how broken the American system is. He's exposed American as completely incapable, or unwilling, of preventing a criminal enterprise from running the country into the ground.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I can't believe Russia somehow won the cold war after all this time, for all the red scare anti communist shit this country went through, they now resemble Russian style oligarchy run by criminal barons more and more, how soon before Trump starts another war to justify why he needs to remain in power

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Most of the good people that don't just flee would be dead after a Civil War 2, leaving only proficient killers and crooks, or just cowards who keep their noses down. Large swathes of the country would be, for decades at least, one of "those places" that you never travel to and hear tales of barbarism from every now and then. Civil war would be a degradation, not a redemption arc.

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  • [–] 121 points 4 months ago (32 children)

    Maybe being a bag of dicks to the rest of the world wasn't such a great idea.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (31 children)

    It's not California being a dick. But the boycott is justified all the same.

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  • [–] 63 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

    Californian here, and I would agree that US-CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is and that’s why the bourbon boycott is effective. But, hurt US-CA and you’re hurting the US, so I support that. And the elephant in the room is that are more Republicans in US-CA than any other state, and I’d wager a high percentage of winery owners skew Republican.

    It’s a shame, but the boycott is warranted. I just hope that when we get back to sane times, other countries remember that California largely tries to do the right thing. The way you look at the US, us Californians look at the rest of the US the same way.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is

    Reactionaries in California outnumber reactionaries in Kentucky 10:1

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    And sane people outnumber "reactionaries"/republicans. Your point?

    You're willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter. See Mitch McConnell. Credit where due, however, their governor is pretty good.

    All of that isn't to say I object to the boycott. I most certainly do not.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter

    I've seen enough evidence to believe Gavin Newsom and Dianne Feinstein have committed atrocities. Nevermind Kamala Harris.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    "Atrocities", really? Did you bring that evidence to share with the class?

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I think you need to go look up what an atrocity is.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Right, because the trouble is that boycotts become meaningless when you start trying to justify buying from certain states (no state is homogenous) or by C-suite political support (also not homogenous). At the end of the day, the tax money all funds a government that threatens Canada with economic warfare and annexation. I hope US businesses run by good people do well, but right now it has to be Americans themselves who support them.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I would agree that CA isn’t really the problem

    hurt CA and you’re hurting the US

    Republicans in CA

    I just want to point out that in the context of multiple countries, "CA" would refer to Canada, as it's literally the worldwide recognized 2-letter ISO-3166 country code.

    And yes, while most people would understand what is meant from the context, using US defaultism in a thread about another country boycotting US American products kinda bumps.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    That is an extremely good point, and does expose my bias (I live in California, but ironically dual Canadian citizen). I'll lightly edit the comment using the ISO-3166 code for California (respectfully for you, because as much of a fan of ISO standards as I am, I'd not heard of 3166. Thanks).

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Can’t really selectively target a nations dipshits so unfortunately you all get punished for not stopping it

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (4 children)

    I was talking to my bro a few weeks ago, after an edible and a joint mind you, and I had the idea that the best thing the rest of the world could do is to stop acknowledging the US as a whole and ONLY recognize individual states as independent nations.

    This would cause so much chaos

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    That would mean the EU or various other unions around the world would have to expect the same treatment in return

    Also most countries like the UN rules

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I mean there are many reasons that would prevent it from happening. But thinking about the ramifications if the international community just had enough of the US's bullshit that they decided to do it that way would be very interesting.

    It's not without merit either, as the "states rights" people in the US might even support it, which would be absolutely wild.

    Just a thought experiment, fueled by an altered state of mind, produced happy thoughts

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago*

    Well it's not Mr. Peterson from Wyoming either. But we can't individualize how we treat USA. USA is making threats and has started a trade war, so we have to respond to USA as a whole. Both Canada and EU.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Some of California votes consistently Republican. The whole state is not exempt.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    It's not a la carte dicks of America. It's United States of America. At a certain geopolitical level there is no good vs evil. Just politicians vs politicians.

    This is why having normal human beings in the driver's seat is important and not just entertainment.

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I'm from Maine and took a road trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia recently. I stopped in a licquor store (the LC) and jokingly asked the cashiers where the bourbon was. They got a good chuckle out of that one.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Rideau Whiskey may not say it's Bourbon on the bottle, but there's bourbon in the bottle. Because of some dumb laws you can't call it bourbon unless it's made a certain region in the US, sort of like champagne. So we actually do have bourbon, even if it's not called that.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It’s kind of like how sparking wine must come from the Champagne region of France to be termed Champagne.

    Bourbon is just a naming convention for corn whiskey. I’m just finding out based on your post that Rideau Whiskey is in my neck of the woods, and I will have to try it! BRBN from Okanagan Spirits has been our recent treat - my husband really loves bourbon and this has hit the mark

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Oof, it's $60 now, it was $40 when I bought a couple of bottles of it. It's kinda weird because I can't find it on the LCBO site, I had to order it online.

    I like it better than Wild Turkey or Maker's. Not sure if I'd consider it to be high end tho.

    Clan Colla (from Ireland tho, not Canada) is really good, better than Booker's (which used to be my favourite) IMO. But that's super hard to get, I happened to pick up a bottle of it at the Dublin airport and now in my circle we consider it to be the best. Which is kind of a problem since it's so hard to get.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Too bad you didn't take the opportunity to drink some Legendario, my favourite (so far) Cuban rum. Had my buddy in Nova Scotia bring me some a few months ago when he was coming out. Wish they sold it it my area but sadly they do not. Happily however I have friends

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago

    "Put our booze back on your shelves! Also we don't care and we don't need you."

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  • [–] 41 points 4 months ago*

    Good. Boycotts work. If any of you Americans out there are wondering how you can fight...boycotts work.

    My neighbourhood grocery store and liquor store have both decided to stop stocking US goods.

    I don't miss anything. As a Canadian, this is more important to me.

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    A lot of the wines are out of California. Both the state as a whole and the wine-producing regions in it tend to not be too keen on Trump.

    searches

    https://wineamerica.org/policy/by-the-numbers/

    California makes 85% of all US wine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_Country

    Wine Country is a region of California, in the northern San Francisco Bay Area, known worldwide as a premier wine-growing region.[1]

    There are over 1,700 wineries in the North Bay, mostly located in the area's valleys, including Napa Valley in Napa County, and the Sonoma Valley,

    https://www.pressdemocrat.com/2024/11/08/an-early-look-at-the-trumpharris-vote-in-sonoma-napa-and-other-bay-area-counties/

    Sonoma County voters, with 52% of votes counted as of Friday morning, firmly supported Harris with 72% of the vote, compared to 25% for Trump.

    In Napa County, which had counted 32% of votes, Harris had 64%, compared to Trump’s 33%.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago

    In either of those counties the minority percentages are the wealthy land owners who put huge Trump signs along the fences of their vinyards and orchards. They're also the ones who hire the undocumented workers every season, but that's a whole other discussion.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Won't someone think of the poor poor drug dealing capitalists with their measly 40 billion dollar industry!

    The valley itself may have split in Harris' favor, but how do you suppose the private owners and the shareholders of the publicly traded wine companies voted? Do you think the people who actually pick and ferment the grapes would be that much better off if Canadians had never left the market? As if any downsizing and job-loss wasn't already in the chamber and waiting for a convenient excuse to do what the ownership class was always gonna do anyway.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    Canada did not cause anything..the usa did.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Good, that’s the point.

    Fuck Gretzky wines in particular.

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  • [–] 41 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    Aw, are Americans sad that they're being collectively judged and punished as an indistinct collective group?

    ... first time?

    Maybe we should actually get our own house in order?

    Just, you know, that?

    That first?

    No whining, no conditional explanations of layers and degrees of ... nah, just... actually geting our shit together?

    Actually taking some accountability?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    No, we desperately need the whole world to boycott us to save us from the orange chomo-in-chief

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    we desperately need the whole world to boycott us to save us from the orange chomo-in-chief

    The rest of the world will do what we can to protect ourselves from your country's government, but it's up to American citizens to do the hard work of fixing their own damn country.

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  • [+] -9 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Americans sad that they’re being collectively judged and punished

    We're not being collectively judged and punished. Some number of American wine distributors are seeing a decline in their Canadian portfolios.

    Why would the rest of us give a shit? That's their problem, not ours.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Americans sad that they’re being collectively judged and punished

    We're not [...]

    Nah you guys definitely are being judged

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Everyone's being judged.

    I'm still judging you guys for inviting a real actual living 1930s fascist to your Parliament to applaud his work.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I mean, it was obviously a mistake but fair to judge even if it's on a completely different scale to half your country eagerly electing a modern day pedophilic fascist a SECOND time who has proceeded to fuck over most of the world and repeatedly threatened to annex my country.

    You could have mentioned Canada's treatment of indigenous peoples and the residential schools that went on as late as the 1990s which would have also been a fair thing to judge (I judge it too) but I'm still going to judge the USA harshly for enthusiastically electing a shit starting demented pedo nazi

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  • [+] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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    they’re so highly propogandized against

    Reading this in Alex Jones voice

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    I'm not judging every American individually, some did try hard to prevent this mess, but I am judging America collectively for allowing this to happen. I'm sick of being told the vast majority were against Trump. If the VAST majority are against him, he'd have lost the election by a landslide. I don't understand the weird political inertia in America that guarantees every major candidate roughly half the votes no matter what. And fuck those who say that a lot of Americans didn't vote, as though that exonerates them. Choosing not to vote means they didn't give a fuck if fascists took over.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    And fuck those who say that a lot of Americans didn’t vote, as though that exonerates them.

    The US disenfranchises voters with a variety of techniques. One of those techniques is to foster guarantee popular candidates aren't afforded a place on the general election ballot.

    If you've got nobody to vote for, I can't blame you for not voting. Demanding people participate in a ritualized farce of democracy when the race is uncontested is pure foolishness.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    If you've got nobody to vote for, I can't blame you for not voting

    Not letting them off the hook that easily.

    They could still vote against an obviously horrible candidate.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    Not letting them off the hook that easily.

    It's not your hook. They're dealing with their fascists. You're dealing with yours.

    When Canada stops putting members of the Ford family in elected offices and clapping for real literal 1930s Nazis, they can tell the Americans about how to do democracy correctly.

    They could still vote against an obviously horrible candidate.

    That's not how elections work. The seat doesn't sit vacant because enough people vote "I don't like you" to the winning candidate.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago

    Then stop being a shitstain of a country

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago

    false. the US administration is on record saying they don't need us.

    do you doubt dear leader?

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Who could have foreseen this?

    Oh, wait, we all could I'm sorry I have stroke nice doggy

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    California senators don't get to tell me what to buy. Framing it as a "boycott" is just wrong, at least where I live. We have American booze on the shelves. I just don't want to buy American garbage anymore so I'm not doing it.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Framing it as a “boycott” is just wrong, at least where I live

    I avoid most US chains and import foods simply because they're junk, so I know what you mean, but that doesn't negate the boycott movement of people who were regularly buying US products.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025-2026_Canadian_boycott_of_the_United_States

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Boycott - To abstain, either as an individual or a group, from using, buying, or dealing with someone or some organization as an expression of protest.

    For me those last words, "as an expression of protest" are important. For me there's no protest and thus no boycott. The upset caused me to try Canadian products. I like them better.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    Oh no, the boycott we initiated with the explicit intention of causing DEVASTATING HARM is causing devastating harm. Fie on intended consequences!!!

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Oh, nice glad it's working! ps fuck you

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    It's pretty simple. No complicated economic theory here. If you fuck around...

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Canada’s boycott of U.S. wines ‘causing devastating harm,’

    That's the point, dumbass.

    If you want it to stop, talk to the clown in the white house.

    This boycott wouldn't be happening if he didn't decide to threaten, insult and attack Canada.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I won't be buying a hovercraft either, so let them say I'm "causing devastating harm" to the hovercraft industry.

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