Reddit will start requiring people to be logged into Reddit to use old.reddit.com.

The new requirement will take effect “over the next month,” a Reddit employee going by the username boat-botany announced on the social media platform today. The person claimed that the change is part of an ongoing effort to “tighten how automated systems access Reddit.”

The Reddit employee wrote:

Old Reddit’s logged-out experience is a significant source of abusive scraping and automated traffic on the platform. It’s also an important interface for many long-time mods and Redditors. To strike the right balance between preserving your access to Old Reddit while preventing abusive scraping and automated traffic, over the next month we will start requiring everyone to log in.

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[–] 166 points 4 months ago (14 children)

Do I have to login to use Lemmy? No, no I do not.

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  • [–] 203 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Bruh you don't even have to be using lemmy to use lemmy. I seen @mastadon people all the time up in here.

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  • [–] 85 points 4 months ago (9 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    How do you like it? I'm thinking about trying it out.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I like it better than Lemmy. There’s more features, and, maybe I’m weird, but I like the Piefed web interface better than Lemmy’s.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    This is way old but I wanted to add that I prefer piefed to lemmy so far, also. The default UI is a lot better.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    It’s not that old, just 15 days.

    Yeah, the PieFed UI is cleaner to me, and it’s also more customizable. Aside from standard settings options, I used a couple of CSS codes to make it just look just like I wanted it.

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  • [–] 152 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    You can still visit - and scrape - the new Reddit without logging in, so the scraping is obviously just an excuse for what everyone saw coming from the start: the gradual complete shutdown of old Reddit.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Actually new reddit page source doesn't load comments anymore. You need to execute JavaScript in the page for comments now. Old reddit still gives you a simple page with comments, so probably why they made it login only. You can't legally scrape pages behind login because you agreed to their tos by logging in

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  • [–] 91 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Evidently not enough people left Reddit due to their last enshittification measure, so the enshittification will continue.

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  • [–] 47 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    If I've learned anything over the past decade, it's that people in general will put up with an astonishing level of enshittification

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Most people seem to not even have any notion of how things can be better. They never even think to look up like "block ads". They just take whatever fuckery they get

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    I really like listening to Amy Poehler's podcast, and there is a running joke that whenever she pulls up YouTube on air, she has to sit through ads.

    And guests will kind of rib her for it, but they do it because she hasn't paid for YouTube to get rid of ads. Always like, "omg you still haven't just paid for YouTube?! I can't believe you have ads!"

    Like... Are most people simply unaware that ad blockers exist? I've never watched a YouTube ad, nor have I paid a dime to them for anything. I will simply not use YouTube before ever sitting through a single ad.

    I just don't understand how people can be so strangely incurious as to not even wonder if there's a way to stop this bullshit.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    They don’t even notice in my experience.

    They think people like us are losing it for even noticing.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    they have too large of a presence of many of the main subs, like sports, celebrity gossip, movies/shows,,,etc, the og news and politics sub too, and then every new sub that popped up related to news or politics, thats probably where all the anomisity is coming from since the bans are likely coming from these giant subs. sports being another one, and now INDIA too. plus tons of porn subs, and OF peddling subs.

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  • [–] 77 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    When they close old.reddit will be the best time to advertise the lemmy instances that use that similar looking theme by default

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago* (8 children)

    It's the mlmym frontend, rather than just a theme.

    Some instances run it locally as an alternate at a different URL; lemmy.world is one such.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Keep in mind that rystaf/mlmym has been last updated years ago. old.lemmy.world uses the FHF's fork, which has had a few fixes made to it.

    self promotionI actually have a fork of that fork at mschae23/mlmym which is significantly different (in terms of new features and bugfixes) from the others by now. In fact, this is what's deployed by your instance at old.lemmy.today :)

    Though it unfortunately seems to be having issues with rate limits at the moment.

    edit: This should be fixed now!

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    If only they'd integrate the RES features

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Man for real, what I would give for a RES "show images" button to expand all images on the page....

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    In listings? mlmym already has that. I see the button also exists on comment pages on reddit, but that'd be less useful on lemmy where inline images are already expanded by default.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    mlmym

    I'm not familiar with what this is, but on desktop going to my instance, lemmy.zip to login definitely does not give me an option to expand all images when looking at the front page or any community page.

    If you mean in the comments on a post page, yes those are expanded, but I mean without having to open the post.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    mlmym

    I'm not familiar with what this is

    mlmym is the old-reddit-like frontend discussed in this thread.

    If you open https://old.lemmy.zip/, there is a “show images” button next to the nav links for the different sort orders. Unfortunately, it doesn't actually work there because lemmy.zip has the image proxy enabled, which the old version of mlmym they're running does not support.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Wow, I only knew of the p. subdomain, haha. This is great, thanks! That's hilarious that they copied the same subdomain, even... I wonder how to tell if an instance supports it apart from just blindly trying.

    I love how the GitHub entry just calls it "a familiar desktop experience" and nothing more. Perfect. 👌🏻

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    I wonder how to tell if an instance supports it apart from just blindly trying.

    They don't have to stick it at the same prefix, so there's no reliable way to check by just guessing the name.

    It looks like p.lemmy.world is running the Photon frontend. On lemmy.today, we have it at photon.lemmy.today.

    Lemmy.today lists the alternate frontends in the instance sidebar, but there's no requirement for an instance to do that.

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  • [–] 63 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    If I ever browsed Reddit that was the only method I used. Guess I’ll just not use it at all

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  • [–] 61 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Gotta hand it to Reddit though.

    Somehow they keep coming up with ways to piss off more people.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Oh this is nothing. They're currently testing identity verification. As in, "send a pic of your government-issue ID to Persona so they can check who you really are" (and cross-reference you with other sites that use Persona, like LinkedIn etc.)

    I'm also surprised they're still allowing old accounts that don't have an email. Or that they're not mandating everybody to add and verify their phone number "for security and 2FA" – another excellent way of cross-referencing people against all kinds of databases. Just imagine what they can get if they work out a deal to share your phone number with Google, or Amazon.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Are they? It seems like reddit's main user base is bots and AI.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    with them going public with the company, it was a death knell. and constantly trying to appease MUSK has caused a lasting effect. he was the reason why so many people got banned in purges last year.

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  • [–] 100 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Darn. Old Reddit is the last way to access NSFW subreddits without logging into Reddit.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Huh, I... didn't even think of that. I suppose people could download all the old content before this kicks in, at least, but yeah, that'll be the loss of new stuff moving forward, unless people can sway them over to nsfwlemmy.

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  • [–] 47 points 4 months ago

    Fuck you spez.

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Hopefully this will be the push I need to quit Reddit.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I feel like apart from niche communities, Lemmy now has critical mass to survive on its own!

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Unfortunately the niche communities are still the biggest reason I use Reddit.

    Guess it's time for me to get off my lazy ass and create/contribute to the martial arts and piano communities

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    There's a subreddit where there are thousands of people. The equivalent community on Lemmy has a dozen. I participate there, but it definitely isn't the same. I haven't logged into Reddit in a couple of years, and I browse that old subreddit using old.reddit if that disappears the choice is logging in or using new reddit, neither of which is going to work for me, so I guess that's it for me.

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    old.reddit is the only way I use it. this goes away, I delete my account.

    The support forums like r/stopdrinking and r/CPTSD have been lifesavers for me, but reddit just keeps finding new ways to be terrible. RIP Aaron Swartz

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I spent months deleting my old reddit comments. And I'd have to type in my username on a search engine after about a month or two and find more of my old comments and delete those too.

    I know the bots already scrapped my contributions. I wanted to say fuck off to to Reddit and take back my contributions.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Yup.

    I only use old Reddit at work on a computer now. I create a new account every day as it takes that long for them to shadowban me. I get a handful of comments in, get a number of upvotes/downvotes and influence opinions, then I create a new account when I get into work the next day.

    Don't have time for a shitty platform on weekends as I have better things to do and I don't care to use it on mobile, even though RedReader still works and looks like old Reddit.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    im surprised they , havnt shadowbanned every acct you made the moment you created it, since they often will link your IP and device and automatic ban news ones. unless your IP or device changes everytime.

    the others way they ban is through pattern of behaviour, your fingerprint, canvas size, device components.

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    [–] 37 points 4 months ago

    Oh they dont like people using their website as a website? Guess this is an issue that will solve itself.

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I still read one subreddit regularly via old.reddit.com, via VPN without logging in. I guess I will stop now.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I'm in a similar boat. Deleted my accounts. Visit a few old communities that are hard to move on from, but old.reddit has always been my line in the sand.

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Redlib still works, for now. I'm using this instance currently.

    The login wall is probably gonna kill Redlib though, so read it while you still can.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children)

    Remember to scramble all your posts before you leave if you're still in that shithole. Redact works if you're having trouble finding something to use.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Or just get banned. It'll hide all your posts.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Will it hide them from the scrapers, though?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Not the ones that pay. They save even deleted posts and likely do versioning to get around the spite mass edits.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I'm (hopefully) not even a percent as evil as the reddit folks and I immediately thought of ways to monetize the scrambled text.

    Now you have huge differential datasets of original "humanlike content" to compare to "bad/scrambled" content to include in your whoring out of your userbase's creative works.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Can you even do that anymore? AFAIK Reddit now caps the amount of comment history they show you so how do you find your comments to change them?

    I guess if you're EU you can request a dump of all your data as a GDPR request and find the permalinks for all your comments in there.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I regret every time I revisit Reddit. Them shutting down old.reddit will certainly keep me from ever going back. It'll be a blessing in disguise for me.

    I was addicted to reddit for over 10 years when they shutdown the RIF app. At first I felt like an addict detoxing and it hurt. but now I can look back at those times and say good riddance to Reddit.

    I still enjoy this format of social media, and therefore use Lemmy a lot. It's clear there's no algorithm or bots upvoteing trying to make me angry or keep me on the site. There's less bots here trying to steer the conversation or promote their product. I'm happy with Lemmy. Fuck reddit to death.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, Lemmy has been good for me in some ways because it isn't as popular and doesn't have the deep niche communities reddit has that I was super active in.

    I get more accomplished now because I essentially "finish" my Lemmy browsing and move on, whereas reddit always had something else for me to dive into.

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    [–] 31 points 4 months ago

    Honestly, one of the few optimistic news I’ve gotten in the last week. Tells me quitting Reddit was a smart move.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago

    Enshitifcation everywhere!

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