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[–] 78 points 9 months ago* (87 children)

Never met a vegan who did that. It’s just that most omnis can’t differentiate between systemic criticism and personal insult.

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  • [–] 48 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    In my work, for years they didn't knew I'm vegan (granted, i work mostly remotely and go to the office one or two weeks every few months, as its in a different city), but once i mentioned why i didn't grab x item from the cafeteria menu, and just the lentils, i casually mentioned it.

    Now, for some reason, that person that i was with is the one that mention to everyone in almost every conversation that im vegan, almost unprompted, when for some reason somebody is discussing about food.

    I know that the coworker hasn't been a dick and showed interest when making questions and all, but i don't really understand why it has to announce that Im vegan if i haven't do it nor pushed my views onto others coworkers

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    There is very little personal to talk about that gets organically brought up in the workplace, I've found. Maybe they are trying to include you more or latching on to something that is genuinely interesting instead of the boring normal shit like talking about the weather, sports, or more work.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago

    As someone that has known many vegans over the years, there are definitely some that make it part of their core personality and make sure everybody knows. Most don't but some do. Because people are people.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    If you'd stop making hating vegans your entire personality the rest us normal meat eaters wouldn't have to clarify how we aren't one of you.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That doesn’t make any sense.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (44 children)

    I eat meat and you're being a twat.

    Veganism is a good cause and we can all learn a thing or two about sustainability from them. Stop acting like they're out here to take your oh-so-precious meat away from you. Eat a vegetable or two so you can get that turd out of your ass.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I did. I don't think you did properly. You missed the part where it says "ethical Veganism" at the beginning of the second paragraph. You're describing ethical Veganism, but the term Veganism can be used by many more people. To use your example, TERFs are feminists, but not all feminists are TERFs.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I wholly agree that beyond just sustainability, the reduction of suffering for animals is in the heart of veganism.

    That being said, it's not the most effective argument to sway us meat eaters. When people think of animal suffering, it brings shame and guilt and makes some people defensive. This is why some people hate vegans, because it's a reflection of their own inadequacies. They revel at finding proselytizing vegans to pull apart because it lets them tell the world 'See? This is what all vegans are like. I'm not like that and therefore I am a good person.'

    Self-interest is the easiest way to goad people into thinking about veganism without hurting any egos. If you rephrase veganism as a matter of self-preservation and not a moral issue, people are more open to that.

    It's much easier to make the world eat 10% less meat than make 10% of everyone a vegan. Veganism for all isn't the answer yet, because human incentives don't work that way. Instead of promoting veganism, it's much more achievable to ask people to do things like meatless Mondays.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (33 children)

    it's neither a diet nor a religion. it's a philosophy and way of living

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (32 children)

    Diet:

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    a: food and drink regularly provided or consumed

    a diet of fruits and vegetables; a vegetarian diet

    b: habitual nourishment

    links between diet and disease

    c: the kind and amount of food prescribed for a person or animal for a special reason

    was put on a low-sodium diet

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diet

    Veganism is, by definition, a diet. It just happens to (often) be based on a philosophy by the same name.

    You wouldn't say "pragmatism isn't an approach to problem solving! It's a philosophy!" It's both.

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    That's exactly what happened, and any other explanation renders that quote irrelevant to the discussion.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    just because you're in the biggest "-ism" doesn't mean you're not in one.

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