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[–] 82 points 4 months ago (19 children)

AI pushed gaming 10 years back

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    You're probably right...

    As an optimist, I really hope this hardware crunch leads to a greater focus on polish and optimization. I feel like a lot of development studios have let specs inflate to cover being unwilling to focus on building their games efficiently. It can feel crazy when you start comparing specs on games from different studios.

    As a realist, I imagine we're just going to have a lot more cloud gaming services and that may just end up being the norm. I'm still waiting for a AAA publisher to start releasing their games exclusively to cloud platforms, probably first as a pre-release or early access bonus of some sort. I have my money on Ubisoft as the first big one if they manage to keep it together as a company.

    As an anarchist, I've been looking into selling all my electronics and investing in some farmland.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Fellow anarchist here, I've been accumulating used hardware that's on the older side to Frankenstein together a homelab/cluster, brush up on self-hosting foss, and increase my personal tech sovereignty.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Man, I feel ya there, I think I have Lenovo's entire 2015 enterprise portfolio. There's a channel called Hardware Haven on youtube and I realize I may have gone too far as whenever there's a new video on old tech released it's for something I already have in my basement.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    As a realist, I don't see any way cloud gaming services are an option that customers en masse will be willing to pay what the providers have to charge to make a profit. Stadia was not that long ago, and Google couldn't make it work under what had to be a softball toss for that business model.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    There's a lot of companies thinking about it that are big enough that they don't have to profit immediately. I think they're mostly waiting to see Geforce Now raise prices and enshittify more. My prediction is we'll have the various datacenter providers giving more deals on compute to make use of wasted cycles, maybe leading to various services renting that compute and dynamically tuning quality based on current cost. I.e., high performance gaming during off-peak hours and degraded performance during AI peak hours. Time limits will definitely become more frustrating.

    Google might jump back in then if they didn't have to run the service. For them, I think they exited because they established that they'd have to actually support the product if they wanted it to grow and there is nothing they hate more. Part of me feels like the dystopian future we're heading to may be publisher based subscription passes similar to xbox game pass but more focused and providing drastically less value.

    I think I'm out though, I don't have to buy a battlepass for the chickens and if support ends I get to make curry.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The wife and I keep tossing around the idea of buying some land and simplifying/becoming semi-sustainable. Unfortunately, even bareland is a premium in the areas we are looking

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  • [–] [S] 34 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    AI did a number to gaming, but truthfully, gaming technology was probably about to stand still anyway. Barely any studios can afford to make a game that's so technologically advanced that it pushes our current hardware to its limits.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Oh please, plenty of games push my top tier hardware to its limits!

    It’s just that they do it by not bothering to optimize their software.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Gaming isn‘t standing still though, it‘s reverting. You can‘t get the same hardware you got 5 years ago for the same price anymore. Hardware ALWAYS got cheaper until recently. This is truly unprecedented.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not going to post what I almost did, but I'll just say that I'm mad.

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  • [–] 119 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    So thats pretty much as expected - 7 months ago it would have been ~$700 as predicted

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  • [+] -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 44 points 4 months ago

    It could or should have been around 700-800. We must be thankful AI companies that it is how it is now.

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  • [–] 39 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    I'm still getting one but this is clearly a luxury item now rather than a competitive console. Sucks to be Valve here, the timing really worked against them.

    I just really hope the VR headset is not much worse than this as I just want to play No Man's Sky on linux VR.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    Yeah, I live in a small space so the steam deck is my only gaming device. Never tried VR but was considering the steam frame just for the big screen experience.

    The timing here really fucked valve. They announced these products around the same moment that component prices went through the fuckin roof. Hopefully the price will drop in a year or so

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (9 children)

    I just want to play No Man’s Sky on linux VR.

    Should work already https://www.protondb.com/app/275850 if you have a Valve Index and a good gaming Linux desktop.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Yes with recent Steam VR Beta branch I got my Quest 3 to work but it takes like 5 attempts to get it working and you have to restart either pc or vr device every attempt. It's very close though! By the time the VR device actually drops Valve will probably fix Steam VR on linux.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Very finicky but feasible. Yes I imagine once the Frame is out that'll be a lot more convenient and reliable.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'm hoping to get back into VR with the Frame. My Index is in rough shape and fighting both the hardware and software is a pain. Last time I tried, I got headset to connect and couldn't get room calibration to launch on Nobara, but I think there was an update since then.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Probably a SteamVR bug, might want to check https://wiki.vronlinux.org/ there might some useful hints. I encountered few hiccups but so far nothing from preventing me to play.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    The SteamVR room setup application is bug prone. It’s possible to circumvent the room setup application using quick calibration.

    Thanks, Seems It's not just me. I'll have give it a try next time.

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  • [–] 101 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    The sad part is that Valve really did price all the parts for pretty much as low as they could go:

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    This really reflects the reverse spiral gaming hardware has seen in recent years. The benchmarks are absolutely laughable for what you could get for the same price just a year ago. Go back 2 years and the gap is even larger. Gamers are being priced out by AI slop generators.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Now also consider that the Steam Machine also has a tiny form factor, extremely quiet cooling, and CEC over HDMI that make it exceptionally suited for a living room PC and it more than makes up for that $71 gap. It really is about as good a deal as it could have been in 2026, but most people are still comparing it against 2024 prices. I think the $99 Steam Controller having a bundle price of $79 shows that Valve really are trying to do what they can here.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Honestly the fact that were able to push sub-1.1k prices with the mess we have now, and at the same time they so SteamOS can be used on your own steam machine (as in made by you) makes me think they knew of the corner they walked in for a long time.

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  • [+] -12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Bruh the lenovo desktop I got on ebay got more ram than that (32 gb ddr5)

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    When did you get it and for how much?

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Op is full of shit my bet. I love collecting these refurbished lenovo corporate gadgets and 32gb ddr5 is extremely unlikely as I've never seen one. In general lenovo towers are not really usable for gaming but awesome home servers.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Plenty lenovo desktops and thinkpads with 32 gb ddr5 now. But yes, they're not aimed for gaming

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/157772460237

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