Honestly surprised that they hit that price point with the way things are going. Still don't need one so I won't buy one, but about 1000 was what I was expecting
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I wonder how much it would've cost if we didn't have a dumb mother fucker in charge and greedy rich bastards weren't hoarding all the supplies
speculation says 750ish. which really would have been perfect
https://steamdeckhq.com/news/valve-steam-machine-original-price/
it's not just the one dumb motherfucker in charge, it's practically the entire goddamn government. anyone who isn't vocally outspoken against AI companies and aiming to put a hard stop to their data centers is fully responsible for any and all harm they're currently causing (and the hardware inflation is such a minor part of said harm).
anyway abolish capitalism and send techbros to the guillotines
abolish capitalism
What does this mean, exactly?
Reorganize our economic system into one in which the means of production, ie factories, farms, utilities etc, are collectively owned by the people instead of being owned by the rich elite who take all profit for themselves.
So, no mom and pop shops? No lemonade stands? No independent book stores? No family farms? Nobody allowed to sell homemade quilts or paintings?
How did you get that from what he said? Your example would still be the people who make the product owning the profits.
So, you're in favour of private ownership of the means of production?
You're confusing personal property with essential infrastructure. You can have and sell all those things even under communism.
No, private property is things like a coat and shoes.
If someone owns an industrial lemon juicer, that's part of the means of production, and must be collectively owned. Sorry Jenny, you can't have a lemonade stand.
In fact, Jenny's parents are allowed to own a small lemon juicer as part of their personal property. But, if Jenny tries to use that juicer for her lemonade stand and charges money for her lemonade, that juicer is now part of the means of production (as are the lemons) and she's now operating an illegal enterprise.
The USSR and other supposedly "communist" governments all eventually allowed some capitalism in their economies, because 100% pure communism simply didn't work.
Alright buddy, whatever you say.
You mean, whatever Marx says.
Well he was a key theoritician of communism, so partly, but also Engles, Lenin, Che, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Fanon, Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, many others. It'd be a shame if I only ever read one author when communism has been developed by multitudes of scientists, teachers and other thinkers over the last 150 years.
And which of them thought that communism without capitalism allowed someone to run a for-profit business?
Any of them, If there is a classless society where everyone's basic needs are met, a person growing their own lemons or acquiring them and giving lemonade to people in exchange for currency can still be communism and wouldn't be a problem. They aren't exploiting laborers by hoarding wealth derived from wage labor. Socialist systems can have markets, and small business enterprises.
That's an "if" big enough to drive a train through.
There has never been a classless society where everyone's basic needs are met. So, pretending that that's the starting point for this hypothetical is a sign you're pretty desperate.
Yeah because that is the endstate of socialism. That is what the path of communism aims to lead to. It's not the starting point, it's after a transition past the capitalist mode of production into a new economic paradigm. It is after the wealthy elite are overthrown in what would likely be a war between the global proletariat and the rich. History of society is a progressive journey between different economic systems. We used to be hunter-gatherers, then developed agriculture, consolidated factories, and now we can move to a new step.
aims to
Aims to. As in, has never once reached. So, you're suggesting that in a state that has never happened, but theoretically could happen, then it's OK to have a for-profit business.
What about in the real world?
There are numerous examples of egalitarian or socialist communities throughout history, I'm not a professor, I'm not going to lecture you on every single point there is, unless I knew you were actually asking in good faith. You are obviously just trying to find any meaningless symantic hole possible. Maybe it would surprise you that a lot of us are just trying to make the world at least somewhat better! No system will solve every single issue humanity has right away.
And anyway, that is just a weird way to analyze a theoretical system. If something hasn't been put in place fully how would we have examples? The cavemen didn't have a lot of examples of farms and factories.
you take capitalism
you place under guillotine
you manœuver guillotine
done
it’s practically the entire goddamn government.
Why don't you draw the logical conclusion, and realize it's the American population that elected the dumb motherfucker that is responsible for the entire administration. And the American population that also elected a congress that doesn't do anything!
For fucks sake, Americans elected an obvious psychopath for president, with an equally psychopathic vice president!!!
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I'm guessing the downvotes are Americans that are in denial, because the above claims are undeniable facts, except the motherfucker part, which is rhetoric I borrowed from the previous posts.
Careful, lemmings hate it when you point out that voters and non voters are responsible for the government we have, or that it's largely a reflection of the culture and society we propagate.
Absolutely, Trump is a symptom not the disease, American society is sick. That doesn't mean all Americans are sick, there are good Americans. But enough Americans see psychopathy as an expression of freedom. So they are willing to vote for a clear psychopath. The disease in American society is like a cancer, it's not all cells in the body that are cancerous, but it's enough to make the society very very sick.
"American society" is sick. Which Dreamland country where oligarchs don't control the decisions are you from again?
The whole world is sick my guy.
The whole world is sick my guy.
False equivalence.
Which Dreamland country where oligarchs don’t control the decisions are you from again?
Oligarchs do definitely not control my country, because I live in a country that has full democracy contrary to USA that is a flawed democracy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
But it's not because the democracy is flawed that USA is sociopathic, or because the oligarchs have too much power, the American society is literally mentally ill with widespread accept of a level of sociopathy that is only seen in very few countries.
Examples of that are, 3 strikes and you are out, prisoners can't vote, lack of healthcare for all, extreme fascist-like religious bigotry against LGBT+, death sentence, police shooting civilians. and of course extremely high murder rate, and the most extreme rate of people in prison in the world.
These are points made with broad strokes, there are many more and all of them are caused by a complete sociopathic lack of will in society to fix these problems, and even a sociopathic endorsement of the above conditions. The tendency is to go with the sociopathic solution of just persecuting the victims more.
THAT'S the sociopathy of American society. That you don't see any other country with remotely equal wealth express to nearly the degree USA does.
Electoral politics means nothing when the entire issue is rooted in the very foundations of the country and capitalism as a whole. One dumbass being elected isn't an anomaly, he's an inevitable symptom of the problems that have been there for ages.
So are you one of those that claim that Republicans and Democrats are the same?
That having a Republican controlled congress with a Republican president is the same as if they were both Democrat?
because if you answer that with a yes, I think I'm just gonna block you.
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Really downvoted for saying the truth? Americans sure like their delusions and false equivalences. 🤮🤮🤮
Your comment assumes the people have real power. The parties are not the same but they also are in ways. This is the manufactured fight they shove us all into because it’s beneficial for maintaining their power and keeping us distracted. Both roads lead to a genocide continuing and they both allow the same people to maintain wealth. It’s not a blue vs red issue; it’s an us vs them one. It’s class war among the wealthy and the poor working class. You can vote blue if it helps you sleep at night, but just understand that it’s the equivalent of Maggie’s steering wheel in the Simpsons intro. The illusion changes on the surface but continues the same behind the scenes at the root, because they will never allow us to vote away their power.
Yeah it’s 100% on the people and not the constant onslaught of propaganda; the fake checks and balances that were actually escape hatches for the wealthy; the terrible propped up candidates, like the time the US population very much wanted Bernie, and instead got Hillary; AIPAC and other lobbyists permeating the government; nepotism; the ramping up of police funding; the capture of all media by the right; manipulation via companies like Meta, who have been involved in regime change and genocide before…
This is simple cause and effect which seems to be lost on a lot of people. Trump and his dipshit admin are losing traction daily when it comes to voter support because they can no longer uphold the lies. We’re now at the point where they’re telling us the pond is clear when it’s green.
But the people are 100% to blame for this one. We only had a metric fuckton of literature and predictions dating back over a hundred years telling us this would happen and that capitalism would absolutely collapse and corrupt in this way.
Yeah it’s 100% on the people
Ultimately the responsibility is on the people. Who else would it be?
It’s on the people to break free of their chains and revolt, but they have to stop blaming each other first, and stop misidentifying symptoms as causes.
On that we agree.
Right on. Being able to bridge those gaps is gonna make or break the future for the working class. If we have too many purity test barriers, we won’t ever be able to truly unify. Fred Hampton was a great voice when it came to reminding folks of this. The left can constantly lambast “libs” but the reality is that a lot of folks are getting educated and are willing to talk. Deterring them with gated communities and tests will only hinder our collective progress. At the end of the day, we’re all on the same side.
Fred Hampton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton
Hampton was drugged, then shot and killed in his bed during a predawn raid at his Chicago apartment by a tactical unit
I must admit I don't know who he is, but that is an excellent (awful) example of my claim that American society is sick.
A normal police of a civilized country would never do something like that.
I don't know much about black panthers, but AFAIK they started out as a group protecting black people that were harassed by white people, and whites still practiced segregation in 1969 AFAIK despite it was illegal at the time. The racial hatred was insane! Or maybe it wasn't decidedly hatred, but a sense of entitlement among whites, and they hated when people of color tried to change that.
As someone who lives in Denmark, this is not something we have any focus on, except possibly an anecdotal story in history class in school.
Anyways people need to learn to pull together on improvements that respect human rights.
The Black Panthers essentially filled a void that the US government was never going to fill for the Black community. They also understood that for any sort of revolution to happen, they had to appeal to the working class regardless of color. Hampton was extremely young but insanely well-spoken for his age. He understood this well and never spoke in a demeaning or exclusionary way, despite how poorly the Black community was (and is) treated. The Black Panthers were responsible for creating a multitude of community programs that helped a lot of people left behind by their government and was centered around Black self-determination.
A small sample list of the programs they created:
- Free Ambulance
- Free Breakfast for Children (this program made a huge impact and is the most well known)
- Free Busing to Prisons
- Free Clothing
- Free Commissary for Prisoners
- Free Dental
- Free Employment
- Free Food
- Sickle Cell Anemia Research
- Police Patrols
- Seniors Against a Fearful Environment
By the end of 1969, free breakfast was served in 19 cities, under the sponsorship of the national headquarters and 23 local affiliates. More than 20,000 children received full free breakfast (bread, bacon, eggs, grits) before going to their elementary or junior high school. [source]
The American people are some of the most propagandised on Earth. Our education has been eroded over decades and we are steeped in a media sphere almost entirely owned by the wealthy which constantly discredits anything remotely socialist and tells almost nothing but lies about the outside world. People can't even usually protest in a serious way without losing their jobs, and therefore their healthcare and housing. When protesters burned down the police station in Minneapolis in 2020, that was ranked with a higher approval rating than nearly any politician elected at the time.
Even if a good candidate is elected, the power comes from the wealthy, they will subvert any thing progressive using their trillions of dollars and surveillance panopticon.
So a lot of Americans did vote for this horrific administration, but most people don't even know what they are voting for, and voter turnout is egregiously bad because most people don't feel they can even trust what they are told about politics.
So a lot of Americans did vote for this horrific administration, but most people don’t even know what they are voting for
And the second time around?
Even if a good candidate is elected, the power comes from the wealthy,
Exactly, taking your country back, should start with taxing the rich heavily, not with giving them even lower taxes. That would be a good start for Americans.
Apparently Valve said to look at the Steam Deck price hike for a clue. So probably around $750 for the base model.
Let's pick Oct 2025 as our 'pre RAMpocalypse' time frame.
Data source: pangoly.com
(I removed BestBuy from the visuals because it is an extremely erratic dataset that basically bounces around the average of others, but makes the graph nearly unreadable)

16GB DDR5 Crucial RAM
Oct 2025: ~$50
Jun 2026: ~$275

2TB NVME M.2 Crucial SSD
Oct 2025: ~$140
Jun 2026: ~$300 (if you remove Adorama)

512GB NVME M.2 Kingston SSD
Oct 2025: ~$50
Jun 2026: ~$200
$275 - $50 = $225
$300 - $140 = $160
$225 + $160 = $385
Thus, the 2TB variant has an effective ~$385 upcharge due to the RAMpocalypse.
2TB variant MSRP is $1349, thus it would be ~$964 pre-RAMpocalypse, meaning that the RAMpocalypse % upcharge is ~39.9%
Do the same with the 512GB variant:
$275 - $50 = $225
$200 - $50 = $150
$225 + $150 = $375
$375 effective RAMpocalypse upcharge.
MSRP of 512GB variant is $1050, thus it would be ~$675 pre-RAMpocalypse, % upcharge of ~55.5%
Obviously this methodology is not perfectly correct, but I'd argue its quite reasonable 'napkin math'... you could maybe make a more exhaustive index of all prices of all brands of RAM/SSD in exact performance spec matches to be slightly more accurate, but yeah, roughly, the RAMpocalypse made the Steam Machine, about $380, or 40% to 55% more expensive than it otherwise would have been, depending on 2TB vs 512GB.
Also I guess we are here just assuming Valve is just selling these things basically at cost, neither subsidizing nor gouging the price, in all scenarios, which I am also confident is and always was basically the plan.
Also also, economist brain says:
~50% inflation in less than a year for pretty much an entire segment of the CPI is uh... pretty fucking bad, to use the 'formal' terminology.
My guess would be like 600 or so for the base model.
LTT got a bit of a guess from Valve, the estimate is that the price was adjusted roughly in line with the recent Steam Deck increase.
Puts it about 850 or so for the base model if I'm estimating properly, but that is going from announcement to now, not all the way back to the beginning of all this mess.
Steep as shit but still somehow cheaper than expected. We love AI bullshit destroying the entire hardware market hell yeah
410 CAD to go from 512GB to 2TB, and sadly that's pretty much just what a 2TB drive costs these days.
Yep. Storage prices are insane.

price shown in USD not including tax/vat
2 Years ago I got a cheap 2TB SATA SSD for 106euro. The same listing today stands at 230.
In January this year I got 12TB WD hdd off manufacturer site for 230 (25% discount off an official price of 330 or so). Today it is 560 and 25% discount would end up being higher than the cost of that HDD pre-AI bullshit. Thanks, ChatGPT...
If not for AI bros, we'd have Steam Machine around 700.
I think it does include two additional faceplates, including the walnut veneer
Steam Machine, like our other hardware products, is made up of many components that we source from manufacturers around the world. The price at which we sell our hardware is a direct result of the cost of these components. We felt like we had a good understanding of how those costs might change over time when we first started sourcing them for Steam Machine back in 2023. That understanding was born from the many years of data we all have about the evolution of PC hardware prices – primarily, that it tends to get cheaper over time as new technology arrives.
Over the past year or so, that has changed quickly and significantly, most visibly for RAM and storage components. There are a variety of reasons, all of which are affecting hardware products everywhere. The overall effect is that our original goal for the price of Steam Machine is no longer viable. So the prices we're sharing today reflect the state of the world for manufacturing; or, more accurately, it reflects the price of the components as we've secured them over the past 6 months.
Price wasn't the only thing impacted by all of this: availability was as well. There were periods where we found we couldn't source some of our components at all, at any price. More than anything else, this has impacted the number of units we've been able to produce for launch.
Also:
If I don't get a Steam Machine right away, is there anything else I can do?
Thanks to the openness of the PC platform, there are lots of options for devices that will allow you to run games natively or streamed to your TV. There are many PC sites and communities out there that can help you with that. For our part, we are continuing to work toward enabling SteamOS to be used on more hardware than just ours. In fact, with the newly-released SteamOS 3.8, you can run the same code and operating system as Steam Machine on your own living-room PC using whatever PC parts you want:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-4227 . Right now, only AMD GPUs are supported, but we're working on expanding support for the future.
Wow, my prediction was pretty close. 7 months ago, I predicted that the Steam Machine prices would be $800-$900 for the 512GB model, and $1,000-$1,200 for the 2TB model.
That was in the middle of memory prices going vertical, and I still got down voted to hell by people claiming that they were expecting $600-$800 tops...
Honestly, with how bad memory has become even over the last 6 months, and the increased brutality to the market done by tariffs and the oil supply shock, I'm actually surprised they were able to hit $1,049 for the base model.
The hard truth: It's an acceptable price within a piss-poor market. The harder truth: It will sell out extremely fast and won't restock likely for months.
When Framework announced their new Framework 13 Pro line laptops last month, a lot of people balked at the price. $1,500 was the cheapest pre-built model, and DIY was basically the same price, unless you already had some components. The pricing for higher tier specs easily climbed to $2,000+
Still, they sold out of every model for the first 6-8 batches in a few days, and barely 2 months later, they are sold out to batch 15, with an expected delivery in October.
The K-shaped market is further becoming a reality. The people that have the money to drop on stuff like this, are happily dropping it. And the people who can't afford it are getting left in the dust.
The scumbag oligarchs have created the cyberpunk dystopia, and most of us aren't going to be living up in the shiny skyscrapers...
Nice accuracy and precision on those estimates dude. It's hard to get that shit right
That was in the middle of memory prices going vertical, and I still got down voted to hell by people claiming that they were expecting $600-$800 tops...
I was getting really tired of the people that kept insisting that Valve would take a loss on the Steam Machine despite their repeated statements that they weren't going to do so.
At least now they'll shut up about it, though a lot of them are probably the ones getting mad about the actual release price. But that's their fault for convincing themselves.
It's obviously not Valve's fault but man, that's expensive. Wasn't planning on getting one anyway, but it certainly makes me worried about what the Frame may cost.
Anyone here planning on getting one? I do wonder how much of a market there is for it at this price.
Is the frame more expensive hardware? Can we make any sort of reasonable determination on frame price now that we know the gabecubes cost?
At announcement I was hoping $700, which I don't see happening. Are we still expecting index pricing or is that not happening?
... Well the quest 3 is $600. They can't be too far from that can they? I mean I'd pay $1000 on the frame before I gave meta $600, but most people don't have the same hate for meta that I do.
The frame sure aint gonna be cheap hardware. 0% chance it can match the quest in price. But since it doesn't need as much storage I'm hoping it'll be 700-800. But I wouldn't blink if it's $1000. Valve just doesn't have the economies of scale Meta will.
I think that $600 is a subsidized price and not really useful for comparison. I would expect the Frame to be at least $1000. The hardware likely is more expensive overall since it also includes displays. They aren't high end screens but they still add significant cost. It is probably more expensive to assemble each Frame compared to the Steam Machine also. I wouldn't be surprised if the low end model is $1500+
That would absolutely kill it, at least for me. $700-800 sold. 1k, harder to justify to the wife, but probably still getting it. 1500, well my rift-s is still pretty good I guess.
I doubt $700-$800 was going to happen even before prices went crazy. Some time ago, someone at Valve stated they were trying to beat the Index's $1000 launch price in a way that implied that if the Frame had beaten that price, it wouldn't have done so by much. The Frame probably won't see the 40% price jump of the Steam Machine, but it won't be 0% either. I'm guessing it'll be somewhere around $1200, but that's just a hunch.
It's hard to say, but at least before the component shortages, I would have expected the Frame to be the more expensive device. After all, it has 2 included controllers, displays, batteries, tracking cameras etc. But maybe the lower memory and storage (if you go for the 256GB) along with its mobile SoC might help reduce the effects of the component crisis somewhat. I don't expect it to be below 1k€ though, personally.
I really wanted one, but now it's an easy wait for at least some kind of sale.
Edited to add, just finished reading and watching a round of reviews and honestly don't think I even want one anymore.
I don't think they've ever had any sales for hardware. The only discounted hardware I've seen was the refurbished Deck. If you don't want specifically Valve-branded hardware, you're probably better off building a proper PC from comparable second-hand parts.
They have absolutely had sales on their hardware. I am pretty sure they've put deck on sale every year since it came out.
As for building my own, yeah I know, and I've considered it many times. But I absolutely dread working in small form factor, and this thing's size was one of the main appeals for me.
They've definitely had new steam decks on sale before. Mine was 20% off just last year.
The original Steam Controller and Steam Link went on sale for about 5€ each just before they were phased out. OG Steam Deck also had some smaller discounts.
Anyone here planning on getting one?
I might get a 2tb. If I don't game on it, I might swap the Linux version and use it for work. We have standardized in fully decked out System76 Meerkats with Proxmox VE serving jump hosts to manage different clients, so I can use it for that, or I can leverage the GPU and use it for datadump and log analysis. The point is, that it wouldn't be money wasted. Ideally, I'd like to play games on it though.
EDIT: Looking at the Gamer's Nexus review they state upfront that performance is limited, so I honestly don't see why I should get this over a Meerkat.
EDIT 2: Nevermind. The Meerkat has almost doubled in price and is Intel only now. So the Steam Machine is back on the menu.
I was going to but only existing steam accounts can pre order. I get it, but trying to go from console as a poor just feels impossible at this point.
I signed up to get one the moment I heard about the price. I like gaming on my PC, but I much prefer playing certain games on the big screen in the living room. Likewise, my partner has gotten used to the Steam Deck's UI so it'll be great to get her more into gaming.
The Steam Deck + Dock is what I currently use, but playing everything in 720p upscaled to 1080 (or just playing indie games) is pretty frustrating.
And I've used moonlight/steam streaming/even Nvidia gamestream (I have an Nvidia shield) - while they're fine solutions, I don't like the compression artifacts of streaming. Also annoys me that the game physically renders on my computer.
So, yeah, TL;DR I want a Steam Machine. I'm also excited to use desktop mode on occasion. And when the machine finally runs its course, it'll be a nice looking server for the closet!
Much as I would love an upgrade to my Steam Deck (which I mostly used docked), I can't justify more than $500, much less $1000. Glad I snagged the $400 LCD Steam Deck when I did. The Steam Deck price hikes prompted me to get a Switch 2, as I don't see any other new sub-$500 consoles coming out for a long, long time.
I have been waiting for the price to see about replacing my Xbox series S as I degoogling/M$ as much as possible. I just want a streaming box that I can play light games on.
I did the promise with witnesses and all to get one at least in year 2 if it launches with Half life 3 just cause the memes I haven'teven player HL ever. If it drops to 600 or so I'm getting it.
I'm considering getting one. I currently have a nearly silent computer working as a HTPC but I can't play games on it. I can get around that with Steam Link, but that isn't ideal. So, it would be an upgrade that would let me play games on my living room TV without needing to tie up the gaming computer.
The other thing it looks ideal for is a travel computer. Gaming laptops suck. Often they're absurdly expensive. When they're decently powerful, they're almost always obscenely loud. That fan whine really bothers me. Plus, they almost always have major Linux compatibility issues. The current laptop I'm using with Linux has weird driver quirks. Like, for example, to re-enable WiFi after it goes to sleep I need to wake it up from sleep, turn on airplane mode and then turn it off again. Only then will the WiFi work again. And getting an external monitor to work after sleep... ugh.
Also, I think it's easy to underestimate the value of what is effectively a Linux gaming console. I'm almost exclusively a PC gamer these days, but one thing I always appreciated about consoles is that you never had to ask "will this game run well on my console?" 99.9% of the time, if a game was released for a console, it was optimized for that console. Even when a game was multi-platform like say FIFA, each console got a build that was as good as possible for that console. For PC games, I think that means most developers will have a Gabecube and ensure all their games run as well as possible on it. The fact that it's Linux-first is also important to me. It means any drivers or software updates will be tested and optimized on Linux. It won't be an afterthought like it is most of the time.
So, this machine is nearly silent, runs Linux, and plays most of the games in my Steam library. It's expensive, but maybe it's worth it?
I genuinely can't see any reason to get one. Like... if you're a PC gamer with enough spare cash to get one, you can probably get a better gaming PC for the same money. If you're a console gamer, there's no reason to switch because the 512gb with no controller is almost double the cost of a five year old PS5, which has better specs and a controller, plus you'd have to buy all your games again, if they're even available on Steam (and also if they even work in Linux.) The only thing I think it could be be good for is as a budget gaming PC, but it's wildly over-priced for that.
Not Valve's fault of course, but yeah there's no way for me personally.
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