Donald Trump’s administration is threatening to withdraw federal funding for unemployment assistance in all 50 states as part of the president’s nationwide campaign against “fraud” in government spending.

In a letter to the governors of 53 states and territories, acting Labor Secretary Keith Sonderling warned that the federal government would use “every available tool” to combat “waste, fraud and abuse” within state-run unemployment insurance programs, including “withholding administrative funds from states” for the first time in history.

There is no single national program for unemployment support, though the federal government partners with state agencies to support temporary financial assistance to out-of-work Americans. Nearly 2 million people are currently receiving those benefits, while roughly 229,000 people are filing initial jobless claims every week, according to the Labor Department.

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[–] 278 points 4 months ago (8 children)

The waste fraud and abuse are coming from inside the house.

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  • [–] 53 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    And the senate, and the White House, and mar a lago

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I'm not sure you're getting the reference.

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  • [–] 150 points 4 months ago (18 children)

    Trump and the Republicans want to kill poor people.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Trump and the Republicans want to kill poor people.

    Don't forget, he's also very stupid, and I honestly believe the narcisist thinks things are going really great right now, he just can't find a way to get the numbers to agree with him. Sadly, on a purely metric issue this might be a winning play. Unemployment numbers are counted based on how many people are collecting unemployment. Kick people off unemployment = they don't count as unemployed. In his narcisism he might actually believe that "fake unemployed people are making the job numbers worse". Secondly jobs numbers themselves. Take away unemployment, people will work shittier jobs that might delay homelessness, or possibly get food when they are homeless.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Unemployment numbers are counted based on how many people are collecting unemployment.

    Unemployment insurance claims aren’t used to measure the unemployment rate in the US. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump thinks they are… Nor would I be surprised if he tries (or is trying) to change the measure so that it is based on unemployment claims.

    To be clear I’m not saying the US’s unemployment numbers are good—they are distorted to make the unemployment number look smaller than it is. One issue is that People must be actively looking for work to be considered “unemployed”, otherwise they aren’t part of the “labor force” and don’t count at all. It doesn’t matter if they are capable of work, want to work, and spent a year straight looking for work; if they aren’t actively looking now, they don’t count. Additionally, if a person is doing any work at all—even a few hours a week at minimum wage, or doing a bit of unpaid work for a family business—they are considered an employed member of the labor force. It doesn’t matter if they are broke, homeless, and desperately looking for a job; they count as an employed member of the labor force.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Interesting, but yeah I guess that still counts in the sense that still it's pushing say, software engineers that lost their jobs to AI, to absolutely have to take a minimum wage job to, possibly afford enough food to survive while getting evicted/foreclosed etc...

    No matter how you slice it, it still does put more people... into a rush to get SOME form of employment. even at the cost of their time that they could be using to get... actually livable employment.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    blue collar worker looks up

    "Homie, you think we have jobs for y'all?"

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    There's a republican solution for that as well... "lower/eliminate minimum wage so corporations can hire people to do things that are less useful". Think of it, we can pay people $2 an hour to have them stand in a park and tell people they should eat at mcdonalds, normally the conversion rate is too low, but at $2 an hour, if they can get one person to go every 2 hours, it's still profitable.

    (and yes obviously this is horribly terrifyingly stupid... and honestly not that far from what many horrible politicians have pushed for).

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Kick people off unemployment = they don’t count as unemployed.

    Hmm...

    Yes - this is true. And it's essentially 100% guaranted that unemployment, measured honestly, is going nowhere but up.

    And with the midterms coming up...

    Yes - this seems more likely to be the primary motivation.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Who do they think the rich will live off of then?

    Or maybe they haven’t thought that far ahead.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Oh, they're not planning on killing all of the poor people. Just the unemployed ones.

    And with employment protections gone, their conception of undesirables - non-cis and/or non-white - will be over-represented among the unemployed.

    And not even all of them will die, but the survivors will have no safety net so will end up homeless, and with homelessness criminalized, they'll be sentenced to private prisons/workhouses and be corporate slave labor.

    Basically, they want to cull the herd - just eliminate the people who won't serve an immediate purpose in their planned technofeudalism.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    They don't want to kill the poor, but they don't care if they die. What they want are tons of poor, desperate voters and workers.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    The Republicans have never cared if the poor die. That's a basic part of their ideology.

    This is different though. Starting with DOGE and continuing unabated since, Trump and his Republican lackeys (and his fascist handlers) have clearly deliberately gone out of their way to arrange things not so that poor people might die but so that they will die.

    What they want are tons of poor, desperate voters and workers.

    Which is exactly what will be left over after they kill off as many "undesirables" as possible.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    What they want is riots so they can declare martial law and hold power indefinitely, Because people are still upset about martial law being declared so “antifa” must be out there still

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  • [–] 66 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    How do empires die?

    Gradually then suddenly.

    The US is in the latter stage.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Living through the fall of the US is the fucking worst but also fascinating. It isn't too often that folks get to see this kinda thing. I hate this so much, but I am very curious to see how shit plays out. I'm doing what I can to improve conditions, but I can only do so much

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  • [–] 63 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    This stunt actually has nothing to do with "fraud" in government spending, but as someone with experience in government procurement, contracting is where the waste is. The government actually doesn't do too badly when we keep the work in-house. It's these multimillion dollar contracts to some private company that are where the waste, fraud, and abuse are. Go fucking audit SpaceX. Revisit those contracts. Bet we can save billions every year on just one companies stupid fucking defense contracts. Then go after the rest of these contractors. Threaten to bring the work back in house and see how they react. Follow through and actually bring the work back in house, build the public sector engineering and manufacturing expertise, and see where we are.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago

    I know it's easy to hate on everything Elon, but Falcon launches are about an order of magnitude cheaper than any other launch, primarily by virtue of the fact that launch vehicles aren't single-use. Starship hasn't done that well yet, but the estimates I've been able to work out put the total budget so far for that project to be as much or less than the cost of launching a single SLS launch, and it only has a lifespan of 5 launches before it gets dramatically more expensive. Falcon was cheaper to get into full operational mode than Starship, sure, but if you thought it would be easier to make one of the biggest rockets ever, then you would be mistaken.

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    Waste and fraud… If only someone hadn’t started a war with Iran and then paid them $300B three months later to end it, gaining precisely nothing…

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It’s like they are testing limits. They keep doing crazier shit week after week then say well no one is doing anything about it so let’s keep going.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I'm a cynical bastard who hates that fat orange child raping corrupt disgusting blob of gonorrhoea to my very core and my first thoughts were this is one of two things.

    Either corruption. Such as: "why give this money to those poor people when I can have it, I'll funnel it through numerous companies. Plus with that new ruling about me and my family not being investigated by the tax people then there's no way anyone will do anything about it"
    Or a scare tactic. "Vote for me in the midterms or lose your benefits. By the time this gets to the courts and reversed you'll be starving or dead AND it's obvious that no one will do fuck all to me for doing this to you"

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    "why give this money to those poor LAZY people when I can have it, I'll funnel it through numerous companies...

    I can imagine that in their minds it's fraud because they don't understand employment insurance and just see lazy unemployed people getting paid. They imagine that everyone who receives E.I. are welfare kings and queens.

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  • [–] 163 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    “The American people will no longer tolerate the blatant waste, fraud and abuse of their hard-earned tax dollars — no state should allow it either,”

    Excuse me? If anything, the 2024 election made it crystal clear that the American people will, in fact, tolerate the blatant waste, fraud, and abuse of our hard-earned tax dollars. 77 million people actually voted for it.

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  • [–] 56 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    they even published a fucking playbook called project 2025.

    dumbfucks

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    But they super promised they never even heard of it or was going to use it. Then installed its writers in key positions. Purely by happenstance.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    One of the things I hated so much about the 2024 election was all the fucking gaslighting about it, too. There were plenty saying "isn't that just a liberal conspiracy theory" and bullshit about "blue maga" (lol, whatever) and lots of the corporate media doing that sort of collective shrug about a documented plan.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    yuuup. so fucking gross - hey we're getting the fascist back in the white house, let's make a list of horrors he can execute!

    and the idiots ignored it. the media shrugged. Everyone I know was screaming about it but that tells you a lot about my peers - otherwise, the country just kinda shrugged and said "Yeah but harris slept her way to the top so-"

    like, dude, if KH had such a magic vagina that the concept was even conceivable, even then, fuck you, she's way more competent and they are WAY FEWER FASCIST PLAYBOOKS WAITING FOR HER you goddamned dolts

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    oops did a bunch of fascism. whoopsie.

    the question is in november, how much pain can they put on all the fucks that made this happen? I want to see dems showing up with receipts, blowtorches and pliers

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    My biggest fear is that even if we somehow manage to defeat all the cheating Dems STILL won’t take it far enough when it comes to punishing these assholes. They need to be treated like Confederates but actually held to account.

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    This is next distraction away from his complete failure in Iran and his green, moldy swimming pool. He's giving $300 billion to Iran in his total surrender, what's the total amount of assistance to be withheld in funding here?

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Nah, this is social safety net cutting. Don't you know that desperate people don't care what those above them are doing? (Also, truly desperate people turn to violence, which is casus belli for a nationwide crackdown)

    Not everything is a distraction, most things are moves in and of themselves. It's just that it takes place inside so much noise that focusing on one thing loses everything else.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You're arguing a pont without purpose, it's both. They always have a hopper, packed full of bullshit, and constantly ready to deploy. It's definitely intentional timing, go read up on his relationship with roy cohn and bannon still advising from sidelines. This is how they operate

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Oh! You think they plan things. Think tanks definitely have wish lists, but the admin just does whatever, switching as fast as possible between them so that news of one rides over the news of others.

    The issue with framing it as just distraction is that that language feeds into the idea that this is a smokescreen for something else that's actually important. They're both important, just timed to take air from each other in the media space. It's like a magician robbing a guy and using the illegal demolition of a building he wanted destroyed as the distraction. Both acts are things that are important to the person making the decisions, but one is definitely going to be the bigger attention grabber.

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    "Lets do something fast and stupid so they stop talking about me starting and losing a war."

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    president’s nationwide campaign against “fraud” in government spending.

    Projection much, huh?

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    the "fraud" starts and ends at the oval office. investigate that s.o.b. first.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Have to imagine this will disproportionately hurt red states and then they'll blame it on Obama or Biden or something. Really hoping some state will withhold federal taxes but I know our leaders are too spineless for that :[

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Then, magically unemployment will go down and they'll call it a success. Even though all that's happened are fewer people qualifying for unemployment, and more than likely it will result in a net increase in unemployed people.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    pls no, this would make the crime rate skyrocket

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    That's what the federal cabal wants.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    What the fuck are they trying to do? Why would they wanna destabilize the country?

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    Peter Thiel and a bunch of the other billionaires want to carve the US up into city states, they’re not particularly secretive about it either. The point is to destroy the country

    It’s a quiet revolution most aren’t even aware is going on

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    Because in its an excuse to send in soldiers, try to justify martial law, suspend elections, and otherwise drag the country deeper into authoritarianism. It's not quite a dictatorship yet, after all.

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  • [–] 48 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    They want you so desperate to cling to employment that you will no longer care about working conditions or fair wages or be willing to endanger said employment by being politically active.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah...

    But they're idiots.

    There's not enough jobs to go around, people won't quietly starve. And the only people with anything to steal from are the wealthy.

    They just created a shit ton of people with literally nothing to lose.

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