... And at worst, actively making your bedroom less functional and more cumbersome to use. The arguments I hear in favor of it are completely asinine and I will address them one by one.

  1. It makes it more comfortable to sleep in.

I have absolutely no idea where that comes from. Do you all sleep like Dracula? My bedding is usually tussled about within minutes of me laying in bed. Blankets balled up for knee support, one leg sticking out for temperature venting. I couldn't imagine sliding under the covers and laying perfectly supine like Vladimir Lenin.

  1. It doesn't take much time, so you might as well do it.

I find any task not worth my time to be a waste, so unless it has a purpose, it is actively infuriating to do.

  1. It looks nice. And an unmade bed looks lazy

Given that this is an entirely subjective reason, I can't exactly "disagree" with it. But if there was someone I trust enough to be in my bedroom, I'm not going to waste my time convincing you that I do not, in fact, sleep in my bed.

Not to mention that if you want to nap or even sit on the end of the bed, you have to make it again. It is an incredibly unstable artwork, making me avoid using my bed unless I really need to.

If you make your bed, I have no judgment for you. Just like people who fold designs into the ends of their toilet paper. I couldn't imagine caring about something like that, but it literally doesn't affect me at all, so go nuts.

But I think we should be honest and call it what it is: some kind of shameful cleaning ritual that is probably some vestigial military chore, and I want nothing to do with it.

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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

On point three, many find it soothing to tear into something neat and clean. Some get comfort from the act of making something pristine, then get comfort again by surrounding themselves with it right at bedtime. It even helps some sleep.

That said, this is unpopular opinion and it doesn't help you so we understand your based take.

Personally, I like my bed about 80-90% pristine. I don't want to waste a ton of time neatening it up in the morning, and I don't want to have to fight with a fully tucked sheet to get into bed, but I do get a little comfort out of having it be relatively presentable and not having to struggle at 2am to unoragami my bedspread when my feet are cold.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I don't do it because I'm lazy, and I'm just going to pull it apart again in a few hours.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    unpopular opinion: beds are overrated, just get a bunch of blankets as a mattress and cover and sleep on the floor.

    but also there's a difference between "putting the pillow and cover back into place" and "spending half an hour removing every wrinkle and imperfection". The former is so quick that one might as well do it, the latter feels neurotic

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  • [–] 91 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You make the mistake of assuming that someone makes it look nice for someone else and not themselves.

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  • [–] 100 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I have 2 dogs, and I’d prefer their shed hair ON the bed, rather than IN the bed.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    THANK you. My cat was adorable, but inhaling her fur while trying to get to sleep was difficult...

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    ......I don't understand. How do you not inhale her fur when she places her butthole right on your lips as you fall asleep?

    ....what? Is my cat the ONLY one who does this???

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I honestly feel like this is some sort of genetic thing. Even kittens, who have never had a chance to be taught this, somehow know exactly when the most inopportune time is and seem to focus on getting it just right.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I have cats, if I don't pull up the covers then I get to sleep with tiny grains of cat litter.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think y'all have a fundamental misunderstanding of why beds were 'made' in the first place. Tight sheets prevent vermin from slipping between the sheets and waiting until you climb in to experience nightmare fuel. It's a great thing that this doesn't happen often in our first world experience.. but let things slip a little and this becomes a necessity, not a weird habit.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    My grandparents had this wonderful antique sleigh-style bed frame in their guest room. It had a couple horizontal rods on the foot side that was perfect for hanging the comforter and a quilt on to air out. Had totally forgotten about that until your comment, now I kinda want to get one lol

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Making your bed, is not the same chore for everyone. Some people have many layers and pillows on a fully accessorized sleeping platform. Yes it would be a chore to do that daily (personal opinion). And some people have a duvet, in a duvet cover on a mattress with a fitted sheet on it. Very easy to just shake that duvet over the bed and move on. 30 seconds and done. For some people, making the bed means folding up the duvet and leaving it across the foot of the bed so the mattress can air out all day. And then there is this interesting setup from Germany not all Germans do this.

    However, I think the real subject here is... it's no one else's business what happens in your bedroom. Paint it plaid, sleep on a pile of plushies, have orgies, do your taxes in a corner chair, hang all your underwear on pants hangers from a rod suspended from the ceiling. Whatever. Your bedroom, your privacy.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I feel this. Depending on the season, my wife and i have sheets, blanket(s) (sometimes weighted blanket for her restless legs), duvet cover, 6-10 pillows, an extra blanket across the foot of the bed. She yells at me for not making the bed. Ive come to doing the sheets, and duvet cover, and the 2 pillows we rest our heads on. I dont even want to do that much, but its the most ill do on this battle front.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Those are the only reasons you've ever heard?

    I can't speak for others, but my sleep is not clean. I can wake up with half the pillows I started with, and the duvet sometimes spun a 180, so the buttons are up by my head. Ive woken up with my arm inside the duvet cover.
    My making the bed resets all that. Gets the pillows off the floor or out from behind the headboard, and it turns the duvet round again so I can just flick one corner open and climb in of an evening.

    Also when Ive lived with dogs and cats. It kept their hair from getting between the duvet and bedsheet, coz I really enjoy the idea of pets using my bed when I'm not.

    Also it stops sex sweat from being in the sleep zone

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I make the bed to prevent bugs and spiders from crawling into the sheets

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Counterpoint: I had a grandmother who made the beds tighter than the mythical sailor's with their bouncy quarters, and was fastidious with her ritual of bed making as soon as you left the bed... and we still found scorpions on the regular.

    Then she died, care of the house passed to the next generation (which was really my generation, since somehow that middle generation got the idea that kids were solely around at a vacation house to upkeep the house while said middle generation got to relax) and suddenly beds were rarely made. The amount of critters found in the beds went down. Maybe we were just better at cleaning the kitchen and making sure doors were closed, but I doubt it, considering dear grandma was like a beagle on a scent when it came to cleaning and making sure we didn't air condition the outside.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I had one of those sleep number mattresses once, they have inflatable air bags inside so they zip open and you can get at all the layers of foam too. If you saw how much moisture gets trapped in there you'd do like I do and turn your covers down for the day so everything can dry and air out.

    Making your bed all nice and tight just traps a whole lot of moisture.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Unpopular maybe, but I agree with you.

    I leave my bedroom in the morning and don't really come back until I am ready to go to bed. So the appearance doesn't matter to me.

    I prefer my bedding to be how I left it, not all flat and tucked in.

    My partner disagrees, so the bed is usually made by them because even if I do it it's not up to standards and I get up and leave for work earlier anyways.

    But I get it. The only reason I do it is to be nice to my partner, I could give two shits personally.

    If I had an efficiency apartment or something I might do things differently because it's like, cluttered in the whole living space, but otherwise I think it's a waste of time unless you're trying to impress someone.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I feel the same way about folding laundry. The clothes are still clean after going through the wash regardless of if theyre folded up in a specific way afterwards.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Folding (or hanging) laundry is about preventing/managing creases. It's also easier to find clothing items (or anything really) when there is order in it.

    A (made) bed is a great large flat surface to do this on.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That's one where it's optional, but doing it or not has different benefits/drawbacks.

    Benefits of doing it are the inspection factor; making sure they're both clean and dry, as well as undamaged. Then there's the storage factor where folded clothes take up less space. They'll also be less wrinkled, but that's a matter of style rather than a true benefit to the clothing

    However, not folding them gives you the option to save time, and there's a lower chance any difficulties will arise from stagnant air because the looser the clothes are, the better air flow they have. So there's less funk from any missed soil, less environmental impact from things like smoking or cooking, and more time for any laundry product smells to dissipate.

    Pretty minor stuff overall, and nothing that really matters

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    This opinion is actuaöly very popular with me.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Some people function better when things are organized and orderly, some function better when things are disorganized and in disarray, some function the same either way.

    It is what it is. An orderly, organized bedroom feels great to sleep in to me, and might not matter at all to someone else.

    Whatever the case, anyone judging me because my bed is either made or not made can fuck right off.

    Edit: upvoted for unpopularity, as one does.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    I sleep by myself (well, with my dog, but she doesn’t ruffle the sheets). For me, making my bed is as much as flipping the bed sheets back once I get out of bed. It takes all of one second when I get out of bed; and yes, it looks nicer.

    But, no judgement, so you do you.

    Ps. It’s only a big deal if you make it a big deal. 😊

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I sleep in a hammock and so "making my bed" is just "shove all the blankets into hammock so they're off the floor. I'll have to rearrange them over myself when I go to bed, anyway.

    Back when I slept in a bed I never made it, either, unless I was expecting company. If they were sleeping over I'd pull out fresh sheets. If we were just hanging out in my room, I'd pull the comforter flat.

    Oh, and I never got the hang of flat sheets. I kick them off in the night, unless they're my only blanket.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    What made you prefer a hammock over a mattress?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    It's more comfortable and easier to clean. Comfort-wise, it cradles my joints so my hips aren't sore in the morning. Clean-wise, if, say, my dog wakes me up by vomiting on my chest (to pick a random example), I can toss the whole hammock into the wash and pull out my spare.

    A decent hammock setup also cost me maybe $200, including the stand.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Can you share a photo of the hammock or link to the product? I'm imagining a hammock that's like a pea pod and that would be uncomfortable. But I'm intrigued by the idea.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Here's a photo of the messiest corner of my bedroom/craft room :) Tiny terrier to for scale.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm intensely curious now, because my joints don't seem to agree with any mattress, whether pillow-topped, air foam, springs, or whatever other fancy gimmicks they claim. Was it a one-and-done with the hammock, or did you test a couple of different ones?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I started out with a hammock in living room as an experiment, then just kept sleeping in it. Same stand, the hammock itself has changed over the years.

    The mesh/Mayan ones are comfy but will leave a grid on your skin. I'm currently in a Wise Owl hammock. The cotton ones are comfy but they will break down after a few years of use, usually suddenly while you're laying down.

    Don't hang your hammock higher than you're comfortable falling. I've only torn a hammock twice in maybe 10 years, but both times were within the same week.

    I'm a side sleeper and hyper-mobile. I keep a pillow behind my knees so they don't flex wonky. I have a travel/neck pillow. I use an under-hammock blanket in the winter because otherwise your butt gets cold.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh! And even the hammocks that claim you can fit multiple people... they lie. This is not a bed for partners or sleepovers. (My partner has his own room and traditional bed. We have very different bedtimes.)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    When you say that, I remember my dad's hammock when I was a kid as a torture device that slowly drew the two side kids on top of whoever was the poor soul in the middle, squeezing them like a hydraulic press pushing cheese into a mesh.

    How much struggle is it to get the fabrics to lie comfortably in the hammock? Do you just have blankets on top (except for that winter under hammock blanket), or do you line it with a sheet?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I lay down and tuck a blanket around me. I can't imagine having a blanket or sheet lie flat underneath me. I have experimented with a sleeping bag and that worked pretty well until the zipper broke.

    And oh no, poor crushed kids! That's pretty much how it works. I've shared a hammock with a friend out in the yard and it was ok until either of us had to shift or get up or anything.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My room is really small, and I don't have space for a couch for example, so if I would want to lay down and I'm in outdoor clothes, I would rather kill myself than to lay down in unmade bed while wearing jeans that saw every sort of dirt and dust

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    Fatal counter point to all your arguments:

    It feels better when you do.

    Literally none of your logical arguments matter one iota because the human brain does not care how much you logic an argument. It feels nicer and more comforting climbing into a made bed then an unmade one.

    Also, lying on wrinkly sheets is inherently uncomfortable.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Also, lying on wrinkly sheets is inherently uncomfortable.

    And can cause bedsores.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Like sure, but that feels beyond the scope of a bed making discussion.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Not really, the discomfort felt on wrinkly sheets directly precede them. Even healthy skin can break overnight, during humidity, pressure, friction, etc.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    No, healthy skin cannot do that from a wrinkle. I have never made my bed since early childhood, and i have never woken up with a new break in my skin

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    You shift your body subconsciously all of the time, especially while sitting/lying down; this naturally prevents bed sores

    If you're at risk of developing bed sores from wrinkly sheets, then you probably won't have the strength to make your bed every day. Bed sores are more frequent with neuropathy, weakness, altered mental status etc; but for the average healthy folk... no, wrinkly sheets won't (significantly) increase your risk for bed sores

    Underlying conditions (acute or chronic) are the reasons for bed sores. You can have a perfectly smooth bed, but if you're not making subtle weight shifts, you'll get a bed sore

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    I don't make my bed too, but I swear there is some psychological/ritual shit going on in there. Another example would be why go to the church. Can't we just pray and confess on our own balcony?

    Why hang up Christmas lights only to take them down a week later?

    Why read when (if) we can inject knowledge into our brain?

    Why workout when we can just inject steroids?

    Some of there stuff are more of a waste of time than others, and I suspect it is the reason OP has this (un)popular opinion.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    I like it to look nice and neat. Mess and disorder puts me on edge. I like the bed made with the pillows fluffed and throw pillows placed in a certain way. And I do feel like it's more comfortable to sleep in a bed that has been made, because the pillows are fluffed and all the sheets are smoothed out and evenly distributed between my husband and me. I do just get in bed and turn over, I don't rearrange anything, and instead of a blanket I have my hubby for knee support :)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I had no idea people past my grandmother's generation still felt compelled to make their bed... I thought we had collectively grown past the compulsion to do pointless tasks like this, along with other wastes of time like manually wiping the dishes or ironing everything including the dish cloth. Maybe that's just me, though.

    (I'm not talking about doing it if you want to because you like it, only about the expectation that you should be doing it no matter what.)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    It is actually generally better to not make your bed, particularly if you have asthma or allergies. Making the bed creates a warm, humid environment in which dust mites and bacteria better thrive.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is also actually not healthy to make it right after you slept in it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yes, ideally you air it out first before letting the moisture get trapped. But between waking up and getting out of the bathroom is all the time I am willing to delay making the bed. I wanna move on and not be stuck in "morning mode" forever (unless it's the weekend).

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Where it is nice is when you want to lie down you don't have to untangle the sheets.

    You just lie down and the sheets are perfect.

    Also its nice to tuck them in at least partially to make it easier to make.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Firstly, I respect your opinion as I probably shared it in the past.

    Secondly, we're obviously talking about making the bed as in after you wake up. Making the bed as in fresh linen is an amazing feeling and absolutely worth while once every few weeks.

    Now, to rebut your comments...

    1. It makes it more comfortable.

    This is a silly reason, and I don't see how it's true.

    It does however make bed time feel calmer and more soothing somehow. In my 20s I didn't care about quality sleep because you just bounce back from anything. In my 40s I do think about things like what might contribute to the perfect night's sleep. Having a shower, putting on clean pyjamas, and climbing into a nice bed in a tidy room just kinda sets the scene for a good sleep.

    1. it doesn't take much time so you may as well do it

    any task not worth my time to be a waste

    this is subjective. Your whole argument may as well be "I don't value having a made up bed", which would be fine, but that's not an unpopular opinion so much as a personal preference.

    Regardless, you don't "make" the bed the same way you make it when putting on fresh linen. You just flick the covers straight. It takes less time than scratching your ass.

    1. It looks nice. And an unmade bed looks lazy

    It's kinda weird how often people do see our bedroom TBH. Usually it's someone using the toilet in the en-suite when the other toilet is in use.

    1. It's a good example for our kids

    There's no way our kids would keep a nice tidy bedroom if we didn't.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    this is subjective. Your whole argument may as well be "I don't value having a made up bed", which would be fine, but that's not an unpopular opinion so much as a personal preference.

    ???

    Is... a personal preference... that is not universally or widely shared...

    How is that not an opinion, a potentially unpopular opinion?

    Like uh, in my opinion, Hawaiian pizza is great.

    Many people do not agree with this opinion, do not share my personal preference.

    Like, yes, generally speaking, an 'opinion' is often more broad, more wide ranging, has prescriptive solutions or suggestions for more people than just a 'personal preference'...

    But OP pretty explicitly says that they have no problem with people who do regularly make their beds... they just wish people would realize its largely a cultural artefact derived from disciplinarians and military regimentation.

    That last part, that's the broader opinion.

    The part of your response here that I've highlighted... that is, in my understanding, a 'small' opinion, which is functionally totally equivalent to a literal 'personal preference', that does not extend beyond them, does not instruct or suggest others behave or think in a different way.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    that's not an unpopular opinion so much as a personal preference.

    This phrase means that "personal preference" is a more apt description, not necessarily that "unpopular opinion" is incorrect.

    Regardless, you're free to discuss your preferences for pizza toppings if you wish, it's just not a very engaging subject.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago
    1. It makes it more comfortable.

    [I have absolutely no idea where that comes from.]

    This is a silly reason, and I don’t see how it’s true

    Laying down in a bed without wrinkles is more comfortable than laying down in a bed with wrinkles.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    The ritual of unmaking the bed can help some people, who experience difficulties sleeping, mentally prepare for sleep.

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    Most of our daily routines are.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Generally speaking, I agree with you, for many people... yeah there isn't really any real compelling reason to habitually do this.

    However, there are fairly common circumstances where this does actually make sense:

    Maybe you just have a tad of OCD, and well... this'll make you feel a bit more steady and comfortable, and it doesn't really hurt anyone, assuming you're not full blown OCD doing it over and over and over because its never perfect.

    Maybe you are mildy to moderately depressed... and... just being able to have any kind of regular structure, regular task that you can accomplish... maybe that means you're not a completely useless piece of shit, and if you can keep up this good habit, and give yourself a pat on the back each time... maybe that means you can start to step up toward more, or bigger tasks.

    Maybe you're a bit ADHD, and its... anchoring, helpful, to have that same just bit of predictable structure or routine, to help you get your day started.

    Maybe you have a cPTSD / Trauma response to a messy bed from associating it with very shitty situations in your past, and... having a made bed just removes a trigger for you.

    ...

    Or maybe you have pets, or toddlers, and don't want to 'lose' them, lol, or have their uh, debris of whatever sort, just get everywhere in the bed.

    Maybe you live in a studio and eat food on your bed, clip your nails on it, and you adopt a regular 'crumb removal from your bed' routine as basically just a hygeine pattern, like brushing your teeth or hair or what not.

    Maybe your heat went out or its just fucking freezing, and having a properly made bed makes it just a bit warmer to get into for sleep.

    Maybe you have very fancy, high maintenance bedding, that will wrinkle and deform if not regularly ... re normalized?

    (Yeah I dunno, this is apparently a thing, I am apparently either too simple or broke a man to have ever entertained the idea of a high maintenance bed, but apparently people do?)

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    But if there was someone I trust enough to be in my bedroom, I’m not going to waste my time convincing you that I do not, in fact, sleep in my bed.

    If this is really how you feel, then I suppose I can't dispute you. But this is like saying, "why would I comb my hair? Anyone I want to talk to is okay talking to me as I am."

    Sure..... But most people care about things like this. Maybe not explicitly - most people don't explicitly think to themselves "ugh, an unmade bed. What a loser." But on a subconscious emotional level, this is essentially what is happening. As a society, we've decided a made bed looks better than an unmade bed. That you have failed to make your bed prior to someone entering your bedroom indicates a lack of willingness or ability to confirm to social norms. This, then, typically corresponds to individuals with low social status, and lowers others' opinions of you. Again, this happens on an entirely emotional, subconscious level for almost everyone most of the time. But the fact is, it happens.

    Hence, when I'm going to have guests in my bedroom, I make my bed. I don't make my bed every day - I just don't care that much. But I will 100% make my bed if I'm expecting someone else to see it, just like I would sweep the floors and comb my hair.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I kinda agree but for me and I think almost all of my friends it's the opposite. It feels like they're making the house "fake clean" like we're not just hanging out and this is some big event for me to be over. It's like how it would be weird to make your bed before your brother walks into the room, you're not trying to impress anyone that's just your room.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    It makes it more comfortable to sleep in.

    More comfortable for the cat. She doesn't like it when it's a mess

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    For me, I like to make it for t o reasons. First, in opposition to your first point, it does make the bed more comfortable. I can skip a day, but any more and the covers are too messed up for me to be comfortable. I don’t sleep like Lenin or Dracula. I’m a side sleeper and I roll around multiple times in the night, but I like the room cold at night, so I like the covers in place.

    Second, I learned this from a grand parent I think, and I passed it on to my kids. If it’s the first thing you do in the day you’ve started the day on a good note. You completed something. Admittedly, when I was younger, this didn’t matter to me at all. As I’ve gotten older, it makes a little bit more difference.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I thought the one thing to worry about with the bedsheets is not to grow a large population of mites in them. So you mainly want to keep it ventilated.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I'm with you here. It does look nicer when it's all "setup" but for its purpose, I agree... makes no sense if I'm going to be under the covers anyway. Society plays stupid games and well... you know the rest.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I like to be able to sit or lie on my bed after a long day without it being lumpy.

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