I mean, it's been going on far longer than 20 years. It's just been more directly relatable to how women's appearances have been critiqued since 'metrosexuality' was a trend a couple decades ago.

the thing is, those ppl have seen others with mar-a-lago face. it's uncanny. still they do it. they are like "i wanna look bad and unnatural". we have to accept that. their body; their choice.

Is that why every brodude smells like tea-tree oil to high heaven now? Every nu-male must be drinking the same Faceslop and Instaslop trends

And then that gets hyper magnified through our little pocket black mirrors that most commonly destroy your attention span, thus ability to deeply consider any concept or do deep introspection, and it creates an incentive structure for people to turn themselves into superficial advertisement mascot people, which itself then becomes culturally normalized.

That’s not right.

They are yelling at women that they aren’t good enough… unless they are waring their product. Oh if you use that other product you are just as ugly as you feel inside.

Hot take: advertising doesnt have that much impact on womens views of their own attractiveness or society's beauty standards, unless those women are completely disconnected from the outside world. If it did, women's beauty standards would be completely homogenenized. Instead, we see significantly different standards for what women strive for between cultures and social strata.

Instead, women are picking up cues from their social circles and the broader cultures they participate in.

Yup, the beauty industry and women’s magazines push an unattainable look to make other people, usually male, lots of money.

When I got fat, people were assholes to me so much more often. They had no patience for me, it was crazy. I got back in shape and I'm worth courtesy and kindness again, apparently.

I'm afraid of aging in part because I'm scared to lose that basic human decency again.

Halo effect is real, most people aren't self aware enough to realize that they do in fact bias their judgements of others based on how attractive they find them.

Like most things, Ozempic is fine by itself. But when you put it in the context of a society obsessed with both unrealistic beauty standards and assigning moral weight to any perceived “flaw,” Ozempic is a fast track to returning to the eating disorder epidemic of the 1980s-2000s.

Future historians will also note the coincidence of the meteoric rise of Ozempic with the rise of fascism. Making people feel bad about themselves is how the ruling class and patriarchy exert control. They want you to be unhealthily obsessed with your weight, just as they want you to be addicted to drugs, porn, video games, etc. The radical body acceptance movement was a direct threat to their power, and Ozempic has pretty much removed it from the conversation.

I know a couple people that are on some of those ozembic type drugs for their weight and it's done wonders for them. They were obese though, not already at a good weight, and nothing else they tried worked for them because their food cravings were too much for them to deal with. With the drug they are able to manage their diet and maintain a healthy weight effectively.

This meme is part of the system here as well.

No one in this thread is complaining about ugly women getting these procedures done. They want women to be attractive, but only on their terms.

Self confidence is attractive

There's no question that judging women by their appearance is a widespread problem, but doing expensive/unsafe medical things for the sake of appearance is also about personality.

Am I supposed to know Ariana Grande on some deep interpersonal level to realize that she looks like a walking corpse?

Judging people they don't know by their appearance.

I've seen WAY more women tear down other women for their appearance than men. That and the crazy online dating statistics that came out showing women judge people by their appearance way more harshly.

I don't know if its a cultural problem or not, but people in general judge others by their appearance. Beautiful men have pretty privilege just as much as women.

I think its reasonable to bring attention to the extremely harmful act of women, who are held by society as the beauty standard, are anorexic or abusing weight loss drugs when it isn't necessary.

We have countless studies on the ill effects idolizing women with unrealistic body standards, especially to the point they're harming themselves to achieve them, has on women and young girls. This recent revival of the "heroine chick" beauty standard via eating disorders and GLP1 abuse is a nightmare to the psyche of women and girls, and also does damage the psyche of men and young boys for that matter.

This is it, right here. It really doesn't matter what women do, there will be a legion of people coming out of the woodwork to disapprove. I'm hardly a transhumanist but when it comes to those small modifications to ourselves to feel more attractive, I'm all for it.

I also lost about 100 pounds by eating one meal a day and walking a lot and using the EC stack.

In the span of seven years, I nearly quintupled my income.

My wife, 38, objectively gorgeous, is fully on the botox train and it breaks my heart. Feels like its so prevalent a sizeable chunk of the population must have full on body dysmorphia.

We are both millennials. Aka ageless women. None of us even look our age anyway.

Is this a thing?? I'm a millennial and don't look my age and have noticed the same for plenty of other women around my age. I've always wondered about it, but hadn't heard of it in a broad sense.