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[–] 165 points 5 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 79 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    I'd like to see a surgeon attempt any kind of surgery on Wolverine. As soon as he is cut he immediately starts healing.

    Wolverine's healing factor only takes a few minutes to go from bare bones to nerves, blood vessels, muscles and skin.

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    Damn, when does it get so buffed? Reading 80s comics and his healing factor is "can sleep off a knife wound in a couple days" strong, not "regrows muscle in the middle of a fight"

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I think you're misremembering. In 1978 the X-Men went to the Savage Land and a dinosaur seriously chomped his arm. He basically shrugged it off saying he "heals real fast"

    Wolverine's Healing in 1978

    His healing has been dialed up and down over the decades, but unless it's disabled (and he starts getting heavy metal poisoning), he heals from serious cuts in minutes at the most.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    I think the gloves must've helped with the dino chomp, as well as his general macho attitude

    I'm at around 1990 nowadays and although he says he is fine, other characters (who well know his powers) keep commenting on how rough a shape he is in and how he seems to be dying from the injuries he takes from nonstop adventuring

    To me it seems like his healing factor can do a sprint to close a wound so he can finish a fight, but it can't do the marathon of keeping him alive from constant injuries, unless given time to regenerate itself. And the regrowing flesh thing to me looks like the effort of running a marathon in the span of a sprint

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, he famously had one pretty big surgery

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Sure, but they constantly reference how difficult that was, how his healing factor was the only thing that let him survive it, but how it also required all kinds of machines and doohickeys to somehow introduce the adamantium into his skeleton so that it wouldn't be rejected.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    You could have someone like Leech temporary negate his powers.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    But, once they came back he'd heal back to wolverine: mutton chops, wings of hair, a hairy chest, and all the other typically male wolverine characteristics.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago

    I'm not even trans, but this question is fascinating.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Referring to Iron Man: Extremis #3 it's safe to assume that without hijacking said repair center Wolverine would regrow a penis almost instantly

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    So in theory you could somehow edit the repair center to grow a vagina instead, then the dick would fall right off

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

    Matter-of-factly, Ultron hacks into Extremis in a later run and turns Tony Stark into a Janet Van Dyne lookalike.

    At the end of the ordeal Tony Stark checks to see if he still has a penis.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    But is that blueprint dependent on hormone levels? Maybe wolverine would just rapidly grow a full female reproductive system and boobs on HRT, which then would mean that to revert, masculinizing HRT would be needed.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Thought that was his dick in a cast for a moment

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Wolverine has lost a hand before in Age of Apocalypse and it did not grow back. However he has regrown eyes before along with regenerating after firebombing charred him to a cinder so we can likely assume his cock and balls would also grow back.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    Additional discussion question: It can be inferred that Wolverine regenerates blood, and it is known that beer has minimal effect on him due to his enhaced bodily functions related to his regeneration. With this in mind, does Wolverine have a refractory period or can he fuck all night?

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    That's a shower thought if I've ever seen one

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Would be easier to answer if his regenerative powers were consistent

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    Wolverine does sound quite feminine. Should have called them Vulver

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    She'll grow whatever her little wolverine heart desires!

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    in comic universe, wolverine’s power works off of some metaphysical idea of what his existing body should be and so the dick would grow back

    now if someone wanted to argue there was a mental component that'd be fun but i don't think we’ve had any story evidence to that affect

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  • [–] 53 points 5 months ago (18 children)

    Not to sound like a chud but he's biologically male. His Y chromosomes aren't just gonna disappear, he's gonna grow his dick back.

    And it'd happen before the surgery was even over

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  • [–] 51 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Y doesn't contain "dick information" it contains "dick infrastructure schedule information". The infrastructure builds and maintains dickindustry.

    The only thing that makes a dick and balls is a hormone signal at a specific stage in a fetus' life. Wether or not a fetus gets that signal dickindustry or pussyindustry will continue as the existing structures dictate. There are plenty of XY pussy-ovary births and XX dick-testes births due to this fact. The people usually never find out, as they lead normal lives.

    Though I agree with you that her dick would show back up, that's because her regeneration is magic, not science, and the comic gods said she had a dick and that's that. It would take a big arc for her to get a pussy, old gods or time travel or dimension hopping or something.

    Maybe a deal with Loki that gave wolverine a snarky, chaotic neutral pussy with its own agenda? Also, stop misgendering our beautiful wolverine!

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    So you're saying we need to dismantle the Penile Industrial Complex?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Why saying her? Wolverine is a male and uses he. Or did I miss a comic story line.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Also why sex (not gender) is biologically problematic.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    If you ever think you've found a binary in biology you've probably just found a bimodal distribution. And if there's any complexity to it whatsoever it's probably a cluster of them that are interrelated. Biological sex is really fucking complicated and our species has a ton of possible intersex conditions because of it, some of which most people who have will never know.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Yeah, I think trans Wolverine would be even more trapped by biology than other trans persons. She would need some cutting-edge gene-editing treatment to remove/replace the Y across much of the body. As a native CA person, I believe she'll have quite the wait to get that treatment, and I don't think there's a DIY option that could work for her.

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Maybe it depends on their hormone levels 🤔

    Right amount of HRT: Vagina. No HRT: Penis.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    The healing factor would attack the foreign hormones. Wolverine can't get drunk either because his body heals too quickly.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Those are different things, though. Hormones would be closer to vitamins, the body uses them if they're present without necessarily causing harm to the body. The body produced hormones, but, chemically, if the hormones are made or introduced, chemically, they're the same. Ethanol is a poison that works by affecting the brain by attaching to GABA receptors, so it is a threat to the body.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    That's all science though. Wolverine's healing ability is basically magic. I mean, it regrows his hair to a certain length in a certain style too.

    The backstory for his character is that his healing factor not only "heals" him, but basically restores him to the way he previously was whenever there's a change to his body.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    At first I thought dick, but then again their bones regenerate as adamantium so maybe regeneration does preserve surgical modifications.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    I don't think the bones usually regenerate

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    I think they do when they are bones. The adamantium doesn't break, so it don't need to regenerate.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    What happens if you cut wolverines arm off then? Does he need to get the bones back and hold them in place before it heals?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

    The more you ask questions the more the unreality of the situation shows, so I guess it would depend on the writer.

    You couldn't normally cleave or smash an adamantium bone, so it would much harder to dismember Wolverine. You'd have to cut ligaments and tendons carefully to avoid the bones, while fighting the regeneration at the same time. But, I think if you figured out some way to separate part of the adamantium skeleton from Wolverine, when the a new part grew to replace the removed part, the new part would contain "normal" bones.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    But, I think if you figured out some way to separate part of the adamantium skeleton from Wolverine, when the a new part grew to replace the removed part, the new part would contain "normal" bones.

    That’s what happened when Magneto stripped him of adamantium. It fucked Wolverine up bad but he recovered and went back to how he was until Apocalypse put it back in him.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    The bones are coated in adamantium if memory serves right so presumably if you cut through his bone it would just regrow normal bone then everything else. Wolverine has had the adamantium ripped out before and while excruciating he did heal back up, he has also been disintegrated down to just his adamantium skeleton at least once before which seems to have effectively killed him but that was also the days of future past storyline so who knows maybe he could've regenerated from his eyes, but also there's a version of wolverine who's down to a stump on one arm but then again Apocalypse was involved so who knows what was going on with that.

    So in summary, data inculclusive.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    You'd have to cut ligaments and tendons carefully to avoid the bones, while fighting the regeneration at the same time.

    What about a powerful explosive device? Perhaps delivered with a significant amount of kinetic energy. Like a HEAT round from a 120mm cannon? To that should be able to rip limbs off. Maybe we'd be entering "ship of Theseus" territory here? Or multiple wolverines, each with their respective adamantium parts?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    multiple wolverines

    I can only imagine that some part of the brain has to be involved for the regeneration to produce a Wolverine. But, I could imagine at least two Wolverines, one non-verbal, regenerating from different parts of the brain.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Wouldn't the brain regenerate completely? That is if the cranium is split.

    The premise for my thought experiment was, that every bone was intact, and they were just separated at the connecting tissue.

    Wouldn't the entire body is able to regenerate from a single part, without every tissue type present? I mean not much point in regeneration, if all it takes to disable you is removing both your eyes simultaneously. Actually that would answer the original question on the removal of external sexual organs. I mean, cut off the balls and there are no balls to regenerate from. Remove the penis and there's no cavernous tissue etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Wouldn’t the entire body is able to regenerate from a single part, without every tissue type present? I mean not much point in regeneration, if all it takes to disable you is removing both your eyes simultaneously.

    I disagree that there "no point" if destroying the brain (not the eyes) is death.

    I disagree that any part has to be able to regenerate, we lose cells all the time, and being able to cut off a toe and create a new person is, to me, a very different power from regeneration.

    I agree that regeneration can create tissue types that are not present. The edges of the regeneration are probably the stem-iest of the stem cells and capable of "becoming" any other cell.

    I think the "person" of Wolverine is most strongly embodied in the physical "shape" of the brain created through experience. New brain matter would would like not "contain" a Wolverine (at least initially). Parts that were only bones, tendons, ligaments, muscles, etc. might regenerate, but the don't "contain" a Wolverine to grow into. But, we also know there are (at least) two thinking things inside each brain, one in each hemisphere, so I can imagine if the Wolverine brain is separated we might get multiple Wolverines -- or we might get a Wolverine and some other things.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I have a can of peanut brittle to share with you

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    snake definitely

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    depends if he still has adamantium skeleton, since adamantium is what slows his healing factor. he would probably regenerate his penis, balls instantly. his healing factor apparently isnt the most advanced. i think deadpool and another mutant has a more powerful one(at least in last stand, he fought a mutant that instantly regenerate his limbs in 1 second, which wolverine cant do. as he cant heal from brain damage apparently.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The movies change it based on what creates tension or is funny in the current situation.

    In X-Men the Last Stand he is able to survive disintegration that goes through people around him in about a second by constantly healing the damage back (and his pants repair themselves too I guess). And a similar thing happens when he survives a nuclear bomb in the Wolverine. In Origins: Wolverine he is able to heal back from an adamantium bullet to the head fairly quickly but loses his memories.

    Deadpool is supposed to have a stronger healing factor but it still takes something like hours to a day for his hand to finish growing back after it gets cut off in his movie.

    I doubt the comics are much better about being consistent with the amount of retcons and changing writers that happen.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    oh yea, WOLVERINE had plot armor during last stand, dark phoenix could've easily have disintegrated him, but she was likely still emotionally attached to him, and dint want to kill him, so hey "slowly killed him" while everyone else was thanos'ed, it made sense his adamantium armor was actually hindering his healing, as stated in the comics/97(DOFP). Deadpool likely has a similar handicap, as he has CANCER, and his healing is constantly healing from it, kinda wierd it doesnt heal the cancer, unless its also being healed by his mutant ability too.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Wolverine Müllerine

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Trick question. He is a futanari and already has a vagina in addition to his cock.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    We just don't have to share all of our thoughts.

    Sometimes our brain just gives us something to play with for a moment, it's not really for others.

    Just a little treat for us to keep to ourselves.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago*

    The dick thing (there's a reason "he" is angry), also lots of super heros are thwarted trans people. It's why they're always meeting their "girl" versions, life is trying to tell them something.

    "This bright lycra outfit makes me feel like I'm flying! But I also have rage issues."

    "Oh wow, a girl version of me, I'll have to try extra hard not to have any realizations about who I am".

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Who knows what o.g. wolverine has in their pants? They may as well be hermaphrodite... The question assumes too much :)

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