Yes we can!

But he's not that popular.

I kame here to say this!

Mortal Kombat?

These are only the safe ones, you coward!

There's an extension that lets you do that. Once a week it breaks and makes icons appear over other windows.

Jesus it was pissing me off since 2017. I left Gnome in favor of KDE in 2019 You're telling me you still can't make a shortcut like a human being???

What's a desktop? Is that like a big dmenu or something?

Icons on the desktop is a non-feature for most gnome users. Even my Windows desktop has been empty since XP released. If you really want desktop icons then using an extension for that should be fine, but it's silly to frame this as a failing of the "Gnome people" just because Gnome doesn't replicate the classic Windows desktop experience.

For a long time it was. KDE kind of exploded themselves back around version 4. GNOME made huge inroads while the KDE Dev team's got their shit sorted. Main DE to the flagship general user distribution etc. It's just a fact. And not gonna lie I still have fond memories of GNOME 2.

But the KDE team really put their time in and cooked. It isn't perfect. But the over all polish shows. Not to mention its been snowballing lately. I have my whole family on plasma 6 right now. It's familiar as it needs to be, stable and mostly intuitive. It's just so good. In fact my only gripe right now is a niche Wayland issue and not DE related.

yea, gnome is "more popular". doesn't mean it's "better", just that it's the default environment for some of the most widely-used distributions.

Gnome is more stable in my experience. The base Gnome without any extensions is rock solid and just works without a hitch. Problem is that it's bland as hell and not very practical. Most of the popular extensions to make the DE are also pretty solid and reliable, as gnome's extension API doesn't really allow them to break anything in any spectacular way. Plasma allows better and more powerful extensions, but they also tend to have a bigger effect on the DE's stability.

That said, I fucking hate how Gnome devs handle the extension API. Every update to Gnome disables all the extensions even if there's no breaking changes that would cause them to stop working. You gotta either manually edit their manifest files to trick Gnome into thinking they've been updated to the latest DE version, or you gotta wait for the devs to update. Every now and then they do release a breaking change that does break things too, and things get annoying. I used to maintain a relatively popular-ish, very simple Gnome extension. But eventually I got sick and abandoned because nobody's got time to deal with Gnome's extension API. I had to rewrite some basic shit for no good reason one too many times.

Forget opinions, just look at the most popular distros, which one do they ship with by default?

I prefer Gnome's UX/UI, but I use KDE because they are faster to implement gaming related stuff.

Ignore all the words. Gnome users live in an alternate reality.

Yep the design philosophy of "like it or fuck you" evokes Apple clearly enough. They've just cut it to the quick at this point.

I must admit that I fail to see what good that could do.

In theory the one place where you can enter your Nextcloud or whatever credentials and syncing for calendar, mails, file storage ect. happens automatically everywhere after confirming which services should connect.

It's not my personal must have feature but when it works, it's alright.

Both of them have this

I was going to mention that there's probably a lot of people who don't know what e621 is, but then I remembered what community I was in.

WTF is KCD?

I use KDE on desktop and Gnome with a bunch of extensions on laptop because it has good touchscreen support

I've only used KDE until recently because it's pretty familiar feeling after coming from windows, but my wife recently put gnome on her laptop and she loves it. I've used it a bit, and besides just being unfamiliar I do actually like it.

Kate actually does have a mascot, Kate the Cyber Woodpecker

Last version of gnome 2 was 2.32, I think, not 2.8.

Maybe they have some kind of patent?

We just made our KDE look like Mac. It's way more Maclike than Gnome, and actually pretty great!

I see someone wants to run for president

I don't think it's a good idea for a cyborg to go anywhere near water

Idk how true that is, I grew up using exclusively macOS for 15 years, then I got my own pc with windows on it and used it for a few years before switching to Linux, KDE is easily my favorite

It’s just whether you grew up / are more comfortable using Windows or Mac.

No, it's clearly about the amount of fan art the mascots of each ecosystem have. That is also why Overwatch is clearly the greatest game of all time.

For many of us, it was the Gnome Wars and the Devs staged their coup and took over. Because who needs to listen to your customers? You're a Dev and you know best right?

Gnome 2 was Da Bomba. Clean and fast with just enough user control to make you happy. I still miss Gnome2 some days. Then the War happened and we got Gnome3. And things spiralled into the hell that Gnome has become. I switched to KDE and I dabble in many other DEs for funsies. But never Gnome anymore.

These days, I think Cinnamon DE is about as close as you can get to Gnome2. But, even that is slowly evolving away as it must.