If democrats ran on a hard stance of "We will prosecute the fuck out of everyone involved in the current administration", they'd sweep the midterms. Then if they actually followed through on it, they'd also sweep in 2028, but we all know they won't do either.
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It amazes me how many of them are in hard bubbles. I work with tradesmen, some of them are just the worst fucking people. I had one tell me yesterday that at least Hegseth is assertive unlike 'that black guy that went awol for heart surgery'. I'm convinced absolutely nothing will sway about 25% of the population. It's psychopathic.
Thankfully a decent portion of those imbeciles don't vote
WTF? Of course they vote, they vote HARD! The Conservative Propaganda Machine is constantly hyping them up to vote against the Liberals and their Woke. That's why they control all three branches of government. How do you think that happened if they don't vote?
Claiming they don't vote is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
Worked with plenty of anti woke guys who never voted in their entire life, and never would, just cuz they live in a major city in Cali. Obviously not applicable everywhere
Yep. Travel and talk to people or have an unfortunate in-law and you will see how dark the rural American can be. It’s so much more prevalent than anyone in a blue bubble wants to admit. And they are motivated and mobilized. These are the angry, racist people that helped Trump get in, twice! The sad thing is that the people I have met are way more adjusted, normal people in disguise than we think. They are all mad but for the wrong reasons but there are full networks of misinformation and peers backing them up. It’s not just the poor, rural people anymore. We’re fucked!
He should just do his mail in voting in advance then offer to take the muppets for a beer on election day.
There is no way they are making it to the polling stations.
Don't believe it for a second. This is just like all those articles of people walking out of Trump rallies during the end of the last election.
MAGA goons are still chugging that Kool-Aid.
Maybe it should be costing them their livelihoods and their freedoms. Throw the bastards in jail.
I've been seeing these type of headlines of Republican "fear" of losing elections due to the horrible shit they do when they are in power. The money behind Republicans don't care. It's built into the plan. Republicans just hunker down, switch to obstructionsm to limit undoing the damage they caused and wait for the voters to get fed up with the lack of change and blame the party in power (not the party that created the situation and is preventing it from changing). Then they find themselves back in power and continue burning the world and push for every more oppression.
That assumes that the current narcissist in power is even willing to accept that he has lost... given that they seem to be preparing to label everything to the left of MAGA as terrorism and the federal government is currently buying tear gas in bulk, I would put a big question mark on that.
“Those who fall asleep in a democracy may wake up in a dictatorship.”
I don't want them to merely lose the midterms. I want Republicans to cease existing. Politically AND physically.
I agree 100%, and here's how we can realistically accomplish it:
First, we have to make everybody understand that the Republican Party is already dead. That was just the larval stage, before they morphed into their final form - MAGA. Republicans don't exist any more, they are as dead as the Whigs, and should only be referred to in historical, scholarly contexts. ALL Republicans are MAGAs now.
The next step requires fighting hard enough, viciously enough, that the Dems take back ALL the power, all three branches. As low as they are now, all those things are actually easily within their reach within the next 5-6 years. MAGA is virtuosically incompetent, and are doing their very best to hand over the entire government to the Dems. All the Dems have to do is get out of the way, and accept it.
Once they've accomplished the taking back of the government, America will have to undergo a massive recovery effort, to rebuild the damage that MAGA will leave in its wake, not just in America, but in the places around the world that we have destroyed.
We can never go back to where we were, and too much institutional knowledge knowledge will be lost, but that presents us with a rare challenge in America, the the opportunity to rebuild our society. We did a terrible job after the Civil War, and now we are dealing with that long festering wound. We either have to finally heal it, or hack off the limb, but we can't allow it to continue to rot, and poison the rest of our system. That starts with wide-spread investigations into EVERY instance of MAGA corruption, with indictments, prosecutions, and prison sentences.
It will be absolutely IMPERATIVE to officially declare MAGA to be a genuine National Security Threat, and abolish them, and prohibit them from existing in any form. They launched a violent Insurrection, stole hundreds of classified documents, election manipulation/fraud, war profiteering, market manipulation, insider trading, war crimes, bribery, treason, obstruction of justice, conspiracy, PEDOPHILIA, and much, much more. It is no exaggeration at all to say that they have openly committed numerous high crimes directly in front of the entire world, with absolutely no remorse. They still.our country in a rigged election, and proceeded to wreck the entire world. They aren't just a threat, they are an ongoing international criminal enterprise, they danger to America and the world is PROVEN.
As a National Security Threat, we can prohibit them from existing, and arrest anyone who attempts to organize under the MAGA banner. And since Republicans became MAGA, there won't be any Republicans either. It will be illegal. We will reinforce that with a Federal Educational Curriculum that emphasizes Critical Thinking Skills, and a history curriculum that acknowledges the stains of slavery and the Native American Genocide, and teaches young citizens how to recognize and avoid propaganda and attempts at political recruitment and indoctrination.
That will require EXTREMELY strong, committed, courageous leadership, which the current MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries does not possess. In fact, it would not be surprising if future investigations discover that both of those weak-ass losers were on the MAGA payroll. We are in unprecedented times, and the fight, and the aftermath, will require unprecedented solutions. Insipid politicians who only want to continue with business as usual need to be replaced with those who are enthusiastic about crushing the treasonous MAGA threat, and rebuilding an America that works for all of us, and not the wealthy.
There is a LOT more that needs to be done, like enlarging the Supreme Court, and codifying a lot of important government anti-corruption policies and limitations, but this was just about how to get rid of MAGA, and thus, the Republican Party.
that kind of verbiage only promotes political division and confrontation. So being precise with what you say does matter. Should dissenting opinions exist? Should there be guardrails AGAINST blatant breaks of law (domestic and international)? Should people be jailed or exterminated for their political views? Who has monopoly on violence? etc. etc. Political demise for republicans would be nice but then take into consideration how very close Mainstream Democrats are to republicans. This is not solved by political extermination of Republicans but by pluralistic government, proportional representation that allows for more nuance and forces compromise... would still need strong and independent judicial branch to hold government to account. Calls for extermination of "other" was always a prerogative of radical extremes, ability to set the framework that prevents any abuse and having a dialogue is what defines "civilized" society
You want nuance? We will never have a "normal" Republican president again. If that doesn't strike you as a threat to civilization then you haven't been paying attention.
VERY dramatic. Maybe even accurate. But does it really matter? System needs to change. Otherwise same people will hijack Dems and you'll have NOTHING to tramp it with having a single party. So yeah, nuance, grasshopper.
I mean it puts it in perspective. We have a system where the two parties take turns being president and one party is a death cult. So the system is guaranteed to change, but if that change doesn't include the extinction of the GOP then it won't change for the better.
The fallacy above is the Tolerance of Intolerance. Democrats, up until this presidency, generally respected the rule of law. There has been nothing close in any of their behavior.
When the "other" is an identity formed through place of birth, race, or cultural upbringing, I agree that extermination is a horrific thing that serves as a warning bell. But when the "other" is an intentional ideology formed through mature, conscious decision as a functioning adult, especially when it originates from boundless hatred, I don't see any particular issue in full, total extermination of its source.
methods of extermination matter. Did you ever try to train an animal? Did you exterminate one for not listening? Do you know anyone who did exterminate animals for bad behaviour and put it on their resume? Do you want to be like them? Ideas and movements do not grow in a vacuum. Uneducated underpaid masses will find the most unpleasant outlet for their anger. Mainstream Democrats will not resolve that issue and those same Democrats will choke off any progressive agenda. So it's a hydra, you cut off one head only to get two staring back at you. Extermination of effect solves absolutely nothing. So, you were saying?
Don't underestimate the Democratic establishment's ability to run godawful candidates. I think they actually believe they can run even worse candidates when the Republicans are unpopular
Shhh, don't let the Dem supporters and Blue No Matter Who types hear this. They'll say you voted for Trump personally.
Everyone outside the country knows Harris was an excellent candidate.
Saying "I voted republican because of the dems" is typical american behaviour.
That's why you are where you are, but it's not your fault, it never is.
You guys are saying that what Trump did to your country is because of the democrats?
You guys are saying that what Trump did to your country is because of the democrats?
If you're not familiar with our politics then you don't know how right you are. The Democrats have a strategy of giving Republicans rope to hang themselves. The "adults" of the Democratic party are encouraging self-harm.
I voted Harris. So good strawman.
It's not a strawman, they're directly responding to what you said. Regardless of how you voted
Man, I came to Lemmy thinking I'd encounter less neo-liberals or those who apologize for them. It's rather unfortunate really.
the word neo-liberal is propaganda forced onto you by people who have that kind of power over you
Good strawman
I don't remember saying you voted for him, and I already know nothing will ever be your fault, no need to remind me
Yep, and claim that we're Russian bots and Propaganda Bots...all because we use facts. lol
I mailed in my primary vote from overseas weeks ago. Other mail I've sent since has arrived with my family in that and another state. I voted for the progressive candidate that was anti-ice. We'll see just how fucked democracy is for those of us overseas voters
I don't think she campaigned with Liz Cheney enough for me personally. Maybe she could have drug Kissinger's corpse around too, that's what sold me on Clinton
It's never 'no reason', getting the votes out is an essential part of being a politician in a democratic country. If voters don't connect with an otherwise good candidate, blame the politician, not the electorate.II think the campaign was bad and too invisible. She was running on "not Trump" and lacked a positive vision for the country
Yep. Dems have been running on, "but, but...but our candidate isn't republican" strategy for so long. And they still haven't changed.
And from some of the comments in this thread, they are supported in doing that. So they'll keep fucking it up. lol
I'll happily admit I'm wrong if they put AOC forward as pres candidate. If they don't put AOC in there, then I'll keep voting third party.
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