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[–] 108 points 7 months ago (11 children)

For reference, the population of the USA is approximately 350 million. That's a pretty significant chunk.

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  • [–] 103 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Also for reference, 100 million doesn't correspond to the number of immigrants, but does correspond to the number of non-white people.

    They're actually talking about ethnic cleansing.

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  • [–] 28 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    yeah so think of every 3 or 4 people you know and toss one of them. That is chilling. I live in a complex with several buildings so just blast one of the buildings right out of existence. The fact they mention texas though makes me think this is all eventually going to be turned around action wise to elections. Texas wants to make their vote based on land rather than population so that dense urban centers can be disenfranchised.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Texas wants to make their vote based on land rather than population so that dense urban centers can be disenfranchised.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims

    That's not far fetched at all. It was only in 1964 that SCOTUS ruled that state legislatures had to use districts of approximately equal population. Other forms of districting were ruled to violate the Equal Protection Clause. It wouldn't even be that hard for today's SCOTUS to strike this down, as the Equal Protection Clause, due to its generic language, tends to provide the weakest protection of any constitutional protection.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Nearly a third, of which ‘illegals’ constitute a fraction of the 100 million goal. The answer is plain to see, esp when considering the reich’s current push to obtain voter data to help populate the central database that is integral to this effort.

    My money is on ‘unreliable voter’ as the through line that will connect those that are taken and at the very least harassed and abused by law and/or financial enforcement officers.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    So you're saying they'd need to do it on an industrial scale? Might need to make large scale gas chambers that will be disguised as gas chambers to lure them in without resistance. Need a cheap gas to do it. Maybe Zyklon B?

    • Nazis Republicans, effectively.
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  • [–] 69 points 7 months ago (21 children)

    That is solidly, I shit you not, A THIRD OF THE POPULATION.

    Does this moron not realize that this proposition is economic and logistical suicide?

    ... you know what, thinking about it, he probably doesn't.

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago

    "That's just a fraction of the eleventy billion illegal voters that steal welfare every day."

    Of course he knows that number is nonsense. He also knows the people he's speaking to are too stupid to notice or care.

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Does this moron not realize that this proposition is economic and logistical suicide?

    When they say "deport", they actually mean "enslave"

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Ah, right, the fun little loophole in the 13th Amendment. By golly, I keep forgetting why America has the highest incarceration rate on Earth, it's because it's legal slavery.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    El Salvador passed us with a higher rate a couple of years back.

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    They passed us in per capita prisoners several years before all of the exporting immigrants to torture prisons for life because we are mean spirited assholes thing. So if anything it just added to their numbers.

    It's a very small country though, not really that comparable to the US.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    They're only going to enslave them until they have enough. They've already calculated that the 100,000,000 are those that are unsuitable for slave labor, for whatever reason, including age, health, resistance, etc. They'll keep the compliant ones, and eliminate the rest.

    He's just saying deportation because he doesn't want to be controversial.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Population is strength. Reducing it isn't good.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    MAGA has a fundamental disagreement. It all depends on the demographic make-up of that population. A large population filled with undesirables isn't as strong as a concentrated population of pure superior white people.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Why stop there? If we deport 200 million, commuting will be faster.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Why stop there?

    Because that's when they run out of non-whites.

    Don't get me wrong; after that they'll pick another out-group and continue the purge, but they're not gonna just come out and say that up front.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    They can start accusing anyone of being Muslim. I've been called one before and I'm a 30+ year atheist and former Christian.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    My pale AF redheaded coworker had the n-slur thrown at him repeatedly while he was driving. Folks can be... let's say inaccurate... with their slurs.

    (he was kind of confused and bemused, which is why he told me about it. He had the top of his car down, his skin and hair were visible)

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    He is a fanatic.

    He wants his worldview violently imposed by force, not because it makes any sense, not caring that it would destroy, among other things, the economy...

    He wants it because that is what his definition of morally righteous is.

    Ya'll Qaeda.

    It is better to starve in a sanctified and Godly realm, than it is to dine with heretics.

    That is how this kind of person earnestly thinks.

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  • [–] 56 points 7 months ago (22 children)

    Deport them where? You're just going to dump them on someone else's shores for them to become undocumented immigrants to be shipped back to America? I know we've set up camps in other countries but there's several orders of magnitude of difference there. The logistics alone of moving a third of the US is insane and that's if they wanted to participate. Of course they don't have any long term plans

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  • [–] 76 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

    At that scale, they'll start "deporting" people into the ground with a bullet in the back of their heads in no time.

    The Holocaust was initiated because of the logistical challenges of merely displacing the number of people they wanted gone.

    The smart ones pushing this probably know this, the others will realize it and fall in line when the time comes.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    The Jewish storage problem.

    It won’t be long now.

    Hopefully America speed runs its way to the final days of the reich.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Hopefully America speed runs its way to the final days of the reich.

    How? Germany was stopped by outside military forces, and there's no opposing great power that's gonna come and conquer/liberate us.

    Do not pretend there's any way out of this without you, personally helping to make it happen.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago

    It’s remarkably easy for the average person to believe all of America is collectively just like Trump, without realizing there’s a large swath of the American population who are vehemently against it who are being ignored.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    Oh, I don't actually see death camps.

    In Marshall Brain's prophetic story Mana, American society as we recognize it fully collapses as automation takes over. The top few percent come up with a way to manage the surplus population.

    They realize that the same automation that's put everyone out of work also allows you to house vast numbers of people very cheaply. Out on cheap land in rural areas in the central US, they build vast government dorms meant to simply warehouse the surplus population. Then they revived the old vagrancy laws. Anyone who didn't have the money to support themselves independently or wasn't employed was sent to live in one of these dorms.

    Imagine a single windowless concrete building capable of housing hundreds of thousands of people inside. It was basically an involuntary permanent dorm situation. You share a tiny room with roommates. You have access to plenty of free electronic entertainment. You get food and medical care in the automated facilities. But you are ultimately a prisoner. Hundreds of millions of people, the vast majority of the US population, was herded into these facilities and forgotten. And they added contraceptives to the water supply to provide a long-term solution to the surplus population problem.

    I think of this when I hear of their plans for ICE to house detainees in former warehouses. Sure, mass murder is an option. But that's a kind of thing that's hard to hide, and it's the kind of thing that makes people start taking up arms. If you know that getting brought in will get you sent to a death camp, then you have every incentive to resist violently.

    Think of a facility like El Salvador's CECOT.

    Warehouses are pretty cheap. And when you house people at those densities, few guards are needed. Imagine tens of millions of people shoved into facilities like this, and then simply forgotten. No mass murder. No mass graves. Just tens of millions of people forced to live out the rest of their lives in horrible conditions until they die of disease or old age. Oh, and in sex-segregated facilities to ensure the next generation of ethnic minorities is never born.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I’m honestly surprised they haven’t built a factory city like China has, but where the “employees” are all the immigrants and the conditions are more like you describe.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    OK. I have a new take on The Matrix. A reverse Matrix. Because of [sci fi mathobable reason], a kind of hyper-efficient form of LLM computation can be done via humans drawing random patterns. Or have some other mechanism where humans have to tangibly create the very computational foundations of AIs. We finally achieve universal employment. There's always some meager wage to be made grinding away in the AI mill. The masses draw squiggles all day so that the wealthy can have a robot butler.

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  • [–] 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    The Nazis wanted to force all Jews out of the country. Turns out there's a lot of insurmountable financial and bureaucratic hurdles associated with housing and deporting several million people all at once.

    Make no mistake, these conservative ghouls are fully aware that it is not feasible to do the same thing with 10x as many people and they'll eventually need to come up with a more... "Final solution" to the problem they're creating.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago*

    The terrifying thing is that with modern construction and the wealth the US has at is disposal, we could afford to just lock up tens of millions of people and forget about them. Maybe the Nazis couldn't, but we could. We have that ability.

    CECOT takes 850 staff to house 40,000 people. That's roughly one staff member per 50 prisoners. Let's say detention staff in the US make $75k per year including pay and benefits. Let's say staff cost is half the cost of detaining someone. That would mean that we could detain people in CECOT-like conditions for about $3,000 per person per year. To detain 100 million people would cost $300 billion a year. That is well within the capability of the US to pay for if there was will to do so. That's less than a third of the US military budget.

    The typical cost of housing prisoners in the US is around $40-50k per year. But that assumes normal prison conditions. Actual proper prisons with 2-3 prisoners to a cell, with various ancillary facilities such as libraries, gym space, etc. available to prisoners. If you just instead lock people in a big open warehouse, the cost per prisoner drops immensely.

    This could easily be the end game for the neo Nazis. No need to create death camps. No need to dig mass graves. No risk of Tiktok filling up with images of thousands of corpses. No risk of the minorities realizing they have nothing to lose and taking up arms to resist being sent to the death camps. Just millions of 'criminals' being sent to prison - nothing out of the ordinary. Nothing to see here.

    And for the "final solution?" You can have a non-lethal final solution if you're patient enough. These millions would be housed in sex-segregated facilities. If you simply lock up all your ethnic minorities in sex-segregated facilities and wait? Well, eventually you won't have any more ethnic minorities. The next generation will simply never be born. Hell, even if the regime can only manage to do it for 10-20 years, an entire generation would be missing. Even if the regime were toppled relatively quickly as far as these things go, you would still be looking at an eventual reduction of the ethnic minority population at a level proportional to what Jewish Europeans experienced in the Holocaust. It would still represent a massive permanent altering of the nation's ethnic makeup. Keeping every racial minority from having kids for a decade would do that, even if no one was ever actually sent to a death camp.

    It is sobering to realize that with modern technology and the staggering wealth of modern economies, we actually could afford to just lock up a third of the population and throw away the key. Ethnic cleansing without ever directly taking a single life.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    The logistics are impossible, the only thing you'd achieve is triggering a second American revolution.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    They're going for a second Holocaust.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    The Holocaust was nowhere near 100 million people...

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The Nazis ran into some problems and had to close shop early.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Just at Treblinka alone the Nazis murdered 900,000 over a span of 18 months. The camp was staffed at any one time by 25 German officers and soldiers and 100 local workers. Almost all of the victims were murdered with the exhaust from a single tank engine. Other camps were generally much larger-scale operations because the Nazis were trying to extract useful work from their victims before murdering them; Treblinka was purely for mass murder.

    Anyone who thinks the Nazis couldn't have murdered a lot more people than they did if they had a little more time is misinformed.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I'm a first generation American citizen and I would love to be deported to the Netherlands or Germany if the US and the EU an come to an agreement.

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  • [–] 48 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    For those who haven't figured this out yet:

    They're going to cancel or seriously disrupt the midterms, and they will go door to door, with ICE, based on your known political affiliation, after they declare anyone who disagrees with them to be a terrorist.

    Be ready.

    Hopefully they fuck it up and turn on each other before it gets to that point.

    But... do you really wanna just rely on that happening?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago*

    Midterms are the warm up for 2028. They are setting the stage to control congress so they can take the election if their other thefts fail. We will see whom their leader ends up being in that election.

    They want to get that extreme this midterm, they don't have the support yet. Not that they won't try and have some limited success.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    Anyone who can leave the Untied States should. Why doesn't everyone realize this? If I were there, I'd be desperately searching for any way out. I actually get upset when anyone talks about who they hope becomes the next president cause it means they haven't accepted the reality yet that the Untied States is a dictatorship and American democracy as we know it is over.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    I would be moving to Canada ASAP... but I am currently crippled, don't have a car.

    I'm doing physical therapy every day, at home of course, we don't have healthcare for the poor here, unless you want to owe 50k to 100k to a hospital/insurance...

    ...its working, i am getting back more capability... but I am not yet at the point where I could shove all my shit into a U Haul or something, not without extreme pain and likely undoing months of progress / re-crippling myself.

    I just don't have enough money saved up, I don't think, don't have a passport, do at least have my brith certificate... as best I understand, I'd have to apply for asylum.

    Theoretically, I should still be able to continue to recieve US Disability benefits even if I am abroad, and that should be enough for me to survive in like a studio in a small / medium sized town...

    ...but... at this point, that could basically randomly change without warning, if some random executive order from Trump or new policy from the SSA just decides that those not residing in the US now don't actually get any money.

    Theoretically that would be illegal, but lol, not like our laws are holding together very well these days.

    And from what I have heard, on youtube at least, from following a few Canadians... it would seem there is, at best, mixed sentiment as to whether or not Canada should do some kind of mass amnesty type thing, for fleeing Americans.

    I dunno, you got opinions or maybe advice around all that?

    I'm keen to get the fuck out, but I also don't want to be a burden.

    I suppose I could just pack my most important shit into a large backpack / rucksack or something, take a long haul bus... wouldn't be the first time I've lived out of a backpack, but dear christ, my last run of that literally nearly killed me.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Imagine deporting 1/3 of your country's population.

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Deport citizens? Deport them where? Oh. Deport them into death — just like the Nazis did with their undesirables.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    They will just round them up and "concentrate" them into camps, while figuring out where to send them. Who knows, maybe some of them will even happen to die while the Republicans try to find a final solution, solving part of the problem that way.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The US has agreements with a number of third countries to take on non-citizen deportations. According to the article in the link, these include Mexico, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Panama, Guatemala, and South Sudan.

    It’s fairly likely that the US applies enough economic pressure until these countries have little choice but to do it. I recall they were trying to force Bahamas and Grenada into it last year, but as far as I’m aware they have managed to maintain their rejection

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    This, exactly. A nice tidy way of keeping their hands clean. Deport them to a country with prisons where detainee deaths are common, or their government can be subtly coerced into killing the people our government sends there. When people demand answers, our government can just throw up its hands and say, "Well, how were we supposed to know they were doing that?"

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  • [–] 28 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Counter-proposal:

    Deport all xenophobes.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    We don't want them.

    You created them, you can keep them.

    Sincerely, the rest of the world.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Texas Railroad Commissioner

    Well guess he's looking to use a lot of trains for something. Seems familiar....

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I mean that's what a white supremacist would say after all.

    White, White baby.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Isn't that about 1/3 of the country? Aren't these the same dipshits that worry about birth rates for some fucking reason?

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    Some small town bar has lost their village idiot. We need to return this idiot to where he belongs.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    “I’m going to say something that’s going to make some people uncomfortable: The problem is, we call it Sharia [law], but the problem is actually Islam,” French said. “If they can infiltrate Texas and conquer Texas, then what’s going to happen? They’re going to be able to control the United States.”

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Apparently he didn't get the memo that the fastest growing religion in the US is "no religion". This is also true for the 2nd generation of immigrants.

    While American Muslims have higher retention rates, their kids are also becoming atheist (in the US) at a rapid pace.

    In short, he's got nothing to worry about! What's going to happen? Easy: Religion will become a smaller and smaller factor over time no matter who we "let in" 😁👍

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    American displays what happens when you sabotage your educational systems by making expected bizarre and dumb claims

    So your average Monday evening, then

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    After hearing the CPAC audience cheer for a Trump impeachment I'd be curious to hear their response to this.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    A third of the population?! What the fuck?

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