And here I was thinking these blow-and-go contraptions were self contained. I should have known better.
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Hegseth is gonna be even more angry than born normal when he can't drive from point a to point b because of this.
This is a great story to illuminate the large number of problems that could be addressed by decent public transit, better options for walking and biking, etc.
How are these people planning to drive? The cost of fuel is excruciating! If it wasn’t because of Operation Epstein Fury, driving may have been an option.
Internet connected breathalyzer... May I ask why? If they need periodic recalibrations all of them don't need it right now no?
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
I had one disable my car in rush hour traffic in another city on a roadtrip, they had no way to do anything to get me back up and running. I assume this is for those kinds of cases. I was taking up a lane on the interstate with a cop staring at me, trying to hum the little fucker back to life while a tow truck came.
Boo for the cyber attack but fuck people who drive drunk repeatedly to the point of needing an interlock device. Maybe don't drink and drive you fucking sack of shit.
Not-so hot take: the underlying issue is lack of public transportation.
Fuck the lock, ban them from driving. Inexcusable.
Driving under the influence is a ban able offence (reckless endangerment) in most countries.
So is a proper driver's ed before giving even a learner's permit. US loves giving a multi ton killing machine to untrained people with impulse control. And teenagers
I agree with you, but the difference is that, in the US, people NEED to be able to drive to function in society. That's why the bar has to be so low to get a license.
I'm sure the lives lost were worth it so that alcoholics and irresponsible people can keep functioning in society. /s
Perfect solution. Really needs public transit or walkable cities to work so win-win.
Comments sections. Where nuance goes to die. All context is flattened and your views must be expressed as black or white lest you get branded as having the wrong opinion.
I don't think alcoholics should be allowed to drive, is that too much to ask?
Driving is a privilege, not a right, and the roads are already dangerous enough as they are.
I understand the dynamics in the US are what they are regarding cars and the lack of public transportation or bicycle infrastructure, but I don't believe the avoidable deaths are a worthy trade off. Change needs to start somewhere, and excusing the deaths for some artificially created issue is not acceptable.
Amen, Lemmy is in the starting stages of how reddit went my brother. It's inherent to the format
Better nuance dies than innocent bystanders as the drunk driver plows into people.
So... Just tell them that it's illegal for them to drive? Kind of like how we tell them that it's illegal to drink and drive but they did that anyway? The point of the lock is that it's for people who are going to ignore the law anyway. Not having a license does not stop somebody from operating a motor vehicle.
Never knew anyone who had one, but a friend of mine dated a guy who did. He would beg her to breathe into it for him.
That's insane but as an alcoholic I can absolutely see someone doing it.
Some are social butterflies who have to be out and about but talk about not learning lessons.
“Not learning lessons” is a pretty mild way to put it.
The only way it isn’t pure evil is if we allow that the alcoholic is not in control of their actions. And if we allow that, they cannot be trusted to drive, or really to even have their freedom. They are 5150, plain and simple.
you only need to get caught once for the lock
It's a shame that it's only when they get caught. There's no excuse for driving drunk.
I can think of plenty, just oh shit we have to get to the hospital please take us to the hospital with a legitimate oh shit we have to get to the hospital tends to override most traffic bullshits. Making the judgment of whether something is a legitimate oh shit we need to get to the hospital is why we have EMTs but like, if the Friday night shift knows you have emergencies when you eat buttered popcorn and there's a new bee movie out they might just expect you to drive yourself (or rather, have a trusted friend and swearing team buddy) because you're half expecting a damn emergency at the bee movie and you've had twelve too many, they know which roads to keep clear of toddlers and the elderly. Damn bees.
There's a new Bee movie?
i'm shopping the script to paramount. she loses her bee husband in a drunk driving accident and doesn't know how to handle the steady swarm of bee courting.
If it's Paramount, you'll need a MAGA angle, like the drunk driver was a Trans school shooter running from the scene after murdering a class of special needs kids.
For starters.
I know someone that did it once and having to have one of these as a result. Suggest you reset your opinions a bit.
Nope, shouldn't of done it once. Pretty easy to not drink and drive.
Nah, you should recalculate your opinion to try should have their license revoked and car impounded
I too have never had a time sensitive emergency
What kind of emergency is more important than the lives of people that might be killed by a drunk driver's mistake? And how is it impossible to find an alternative solution?
What emergency is so time sensitive it's worth killing yourself and a random family for?
The fact that you can't actually think of an emergency is telling.
Still didn't name an emergency worth killing yourself and a random family over
honestly, any emergency that involves hitting you and yours. that's because i don't feel like remembering them. i've been the car that the police pulls over because it's driving erratically and then takes over driving. it's an abstract concept to you. not to me.
Were you drunk or just driving erratically because you were in an emergency?
Also, still didn't name an emergency worth killing yourself and a random family over
Also, still didn’t name an emergency worth killing yourself and a random family over
because i don't have to tell you about the worst times in my life for your entertainment. read the room you creep
I'm not asking for you to talk about your life, I'm asking you to come up with literally any imaginary event that supports your argument that it's okay to drunk drive under the right circimstamces
wait really you harass someone with ptsd until they blow up, then complain to the mods over it and delete your comment starting the argument? you are quite possibly the biggest pussy on the internet.
let me be EXTRAORDINARILY CLEAR. you treat me like my life is worthless, why should i take any action to preserve yours.
lmao wtf are you on about? What mods? I deleted a comment immediately after posting, it got zero votes and you never even had a chance to reply to it. I don't even remember what it said.
I said people don't have a right to endanger others, the fact you took that as treating you like your life is worthless says a lot
“I know someone who only did a murder once and they locked them right up. Suggest you reset your opinions a bit.”
Replace murder with any crime.
If you don’t want to face the consequences, don’t do the action that begets the consequences.
TLDR: don’t fuck around if you don’t wanna find out.
Nice straw man. Murder != drunk driving.
Interlock devices are the bare minimum if you insist on allowing people who have proven they will drive drunk to continue to drive.
I was arguing with the point of "repeatedly" being a determining factor for having to have this device. It's not reality, once is enough.
Having a breathalyzer is letting them off easy, they deserve to lose their license
I know someone that DID IT ONCE and having to have one of these as a result. Suggest you reset your opinions a bit.
You mean he got caught once.
A "cyberattack"? Or vibe coded AI slop running as intended?
The first time I ever heard of/saw one of these things was in the show Pluribus, how common are they??
Hot take but if you need a breathalyzer to drive you don’t deserve to drive anymore.
I think it as undone, but there was a very serious plan to put breathalyzers in all cars. This cyberattack should give people some pause. https://www.jalopnik.com/the-in-car-breathalyzer-is-only-a-few-years-away-1850268311/
Yeah, because it so much more smart to just buy another car if someone in your family need a breathalyzer to drive just because of a beer.
Only those cars that needed a breathalyzer for reasons.
Not much of a loss, I'd say.
Per bidens Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, that's going to be every new car starting this year
Not sure how I didn't hear of this already. Apparently it's not necessarily a breathalyzer, but the proposals include a camera facing the driver to monitor them and passive monitoring of the air in the car.
I don't drunk drive and barely even drink, but that's horrifying. I can't believe this went under the radar for me.
More garbage that is going to break and cost thousands of dollars to fix in addition to all the violations of privacy. Cars are already advertising to people. Can you imagine if they put a camera inside the vehicle? Why not invest in public transit? That's a great way to decrease impaired drivers of all stripes as well as help people in general. All this does is funnel more money into auto makers. I am so upset that this is the first I'm hearing of it.
Yeah I'd actually prefer a breathalyzer if they feel they need to do something
Can you imagine if they put a camera inside the vehicle?
There are already cameras inside most new cars, but the purpose is to see if you're nodding off when driving and such. It's a good thing to keep unsafe drivers off the road. The bad thing is the lack of privacy regulation.
Passive systems, not a breathalyzer. Still fucking stupid but one can disable the cameras or stop the vehicle from phoning home. They won't be able to disable your vehicle remotely and it appears to be more a while driving thing rather than a before driving thing.
Screw this company. I helped a cousin who had to install this company's device in her car. Such garbage. 80s technology that barely functions, has a rigid maddening procedure and demands retesting while driving. I used it when I borrowed her truck and you learn to hate it in seconds. Auto shops charge hundreds to install this thing and hundreds more to remove it later. All along you pay the company approximately $100/month to use it. There are heavy fines for any mistakes and high charges for "calibration". I hope this somehow impacts intoxalock negatively.
If I understand correctly, the only people who are stranded are people who got caught drinking and driving.
For some reason these people were then allowed to drive again, but only if they were sober.
That's stupid. By that logic EVERY car should have a breathalizer, since EVERY driver should be sober.
If anything, the ones who get pulled over and are proven to drink and drive, so they shouldn't even have a liscense!
Unfortunately, due to the infrastructure (or lack thereof) in the US, you'd essentially be condemning them to death by doing so. They wouldn't be able to get to their jobs or a grocery store, because everything is too far away to walk in a reasonable time, and most of them don't have bikes and can't afford one on a short notice. So they'd end up homeless, and once you're homeless in the US, you've already got one foot in the grave. It'd be more merciful to imprison them.
I'm 42, and live in the USA. I've never owned a vehicle. My bike got stolen a year ago. I still do just fine.
Congratulations, that's not how it is for most people here.
Plus, having already built your life without a car for the last 42 years is a very different situation than suddenly losing your ability to drive.
Not sure why the downvotes here, maybe not everyone can accept a counter position.
I hope you get a new bike, keep smiling.
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