▲ 433 ▼ Cyberattack on vehicle breathalyzer company leaves drivers stranded across the US (techcrunch.com) submitted 7 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 88 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 33 points 7 months ago (12 children) Fuck the lock, ban them from driving. Inexcusable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 13 points 7 months ago (3 children) Driving under the influence is a ban able offence (reckless endangerment) in most countries. So is a proper driver's ed before giving even a learner's permit. US loves giving a multi ton killing machine to untrained people with impulse control. And teenagers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children) I agree with you, but the difference is that, in the US, people NEED to be able to drive to function in society. That's why the bar has to be so low to get a license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm sure the lives lost were worth it so that alcoholics and irresponsible people can keep functioning in society. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago It isn't. Public transit is great. When will it be discovered in America? Who knows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iSeth@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago (1 child) Perfect solution. Really needs public transit or walkable cities to work so win-win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Of course better transit is a better solution, but at least while America is waiting for that, ride-hailing services can help fill a gap. Expensive? I have little sympathy for people who drove drunk on that count. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago (3 children) Comments sections. Where nuance goes to die. All context is flattened and your views must be expressed as black or white lest you get branded as having the wrong opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago* I don't think alcoholics should be allowed to drive, is that too much to ask? Driving is a privilege, not a right, and the roads are already dangerous enough as they are. I understand the dynamics in the US are what they are regarding cars and the lack of public transportation or bicycle infrastructure, but I don't believe the avoidable deaths are a worthy trade off. Change needs to start somewhere, and excusing the deaths for some artificially created issue is not acceptable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago Amen, Lemmy is in the starting stages of how reddit went my brother. It's inherent to the format permalink fedilink source parent [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago Better nuance dies than innocent bystanders as the drunk driver plows into people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) So... Just tell them that it's illegal for them to drive? Kind of like how we tell them that it's illegal to drink and drive but they did that anyway? The point of the lock is that it's for people who are going to ignore the law anyway. Not having a license does not stop somebody from operating a motor vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago You make a good point. I still don't have an ounce of patience for alcoholics who drive, but I do agree that it creates a mental trap of "you have a perfectly good car right here if you just stop drinking for 24 hours" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 13 points 7 months ago (3 children) Driving under the influence is a ban able offence (reckless endangerment) in most countries. So is a proper driver's ed before giving even a learner's permit. US loves giving a multi ton killing machine to untrained people with impulse control. And teenagers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children) I agree with you, but the difference is that, in the US, people NEED to be able to drive to function in society. That's why the bar has to be so low to get a license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm sure the lives lost were worth it so that alcoholics and irresponsible people can keep functioning in society. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago It isn't. Public transit is great. When will it be discovered in America? Who knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children) I agree with you, but the difference is that, in the US, people NEED to be able to drive to function in society. That's why the bar has to be so low to get a license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm sure the lives lost were worth it so that alcoholics and irresponsible people can keep functioning in society. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago It isn't. Public transit is great. When will it be discovered in America? Who knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm sure the lives lost were worth it so that alcoholics and irresponsible people can keep functioning in society. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago It isn't. Public transit is great. When will it be discovered in America? Who knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago It isn't. Public transit is great. When will it be discovered in America? Who knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iSeth@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago (1 child) Perfect solution. Really needs public transit or walkable cities to work so win-win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Of course better transit is a better solution, but at least while America is waiting for that, ride-hailing services can help fill a gap. Expensive? I have little sympathy for people who drove drunk on that count. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Of course better transit is a better solution, but at least while America is waiting for that, ride-hailing services can help fill a gap. Expensive? I have little sympathy for people who drove drunk on that count. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago (3 children) Comments sections. Where nuance goes to die. All context is flattened and your views must be expressed as black or white lest you get branded as having the wrong opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago* I don't think alcoholics should be allowed to drive, is that too much to ask? Driving is a privilege, not a right, and the roads are already dangerous enough as they are. I understand the dynamics in the US are what they are regarding cars and the lack of public transportation or bicycle infrastructure, but I don't believe the avoidable deaths are a worthy trade off. Change needs to start somewhere, and excusing the deaths for some artificially created issue is not acceptable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago Amen, Lemmy is in the starting stages of how reddit went my brother. It's inherent to the format permalink fedilink source parent [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago Better nuance dies than innocent bystanders as the drunk driver plows into people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago* I don't think alcoholics should be allowed to drive, is that too much to ask? Driving is a privilege, not a right, and the roads are already dangerous enough as they are. I understand the dynamics in the US are what they are regarding cars and the lack of public transportation or bicycle infrastructure, but I don't believe the avoidable deaths are a worthy trade off. Change needs to start somewhere, and excusing the deaths for some artificially created issue is not acceptable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago Amen, Lemmy is in the starting stages of how reddit went my brother. It's inherent to the format permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago Better nuance dies than innocent bystanders as the drunk driver plows into people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) So... Just tell them that it's illegal for them to drive? Kind of like how we tell them that it's illegal to drink and drive but they did that anyway? The point of the lock is that it's for people who are going to ignore the law anyway. Not having a license does not stop somebody from operating a motor vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago You make a good point. I still don't have an ounce of patience for alcoholics who drive, but I do agree that it creates a mental trap of "you have a perfectly good car right here if you just stop drinking for 24 hours" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago You make a good point. I still don't have an ounce of patience for alcoholics who drive, but I do agree that it creates a mental trap of "you have a perfectly good car right here if you just stop drinking for 24 hours" permalink fedilink source parent