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[–] [S] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (17 children)

"Pre-order ships in May"

An eye watering $169, but hey it's finally here.

Slightly cheaper than the $199 stupidly breakable glass Premium.

Slightly larger 12oz capacity vs 10oz Aeropress original, but smaller than the 20oz XL

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Thats silly money.

    The charm of the AP is that it's cheap and you can just lob it in your camping bag.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Speaking of packing for camping, the website doesn't say how much this new stainless steel version weighs, although I can't imagine it's too much heavier than the original plastic.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    I think it will be substantially heavier!

    No thermal insulation also a big minus in my eyes. Missed the vacuum insulation part…

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Yeah I gave up on that idea - silicone pour over! Lightweight and crushable, no microplastics, works with standard paper filters and any method you want to generate hot water

    I’m fine keeping my press at home

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I've never used one, is the breakable nature of the glass version a result of heat cycles or just because it'll crack if you knock it by accident?

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    it's breakable compared to the $20 plastic original, which is basically nuke proof.

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    But it somehow makes microplastics no one can see but everyone believes in. Christianity is envious of microplastics.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    what the fuck? the original aeropress is famously not BPA-free.

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    what the fuck? the original aeropress is famously not BPA-free.

    oh right the other junk science scare from the early 2000s, based on ONE mouse study where they injected insane amounts of BPA in muscle tissue, then follow ups with more junk science.

    Let's learn something today: Bisphenol A was actually created by a german pharmacuetical lab trying to make a synthetic hormone. In 1891, and it was revisited many times until the 1930s and considered a failure. It never showed estrogenic properties. Eventually, it ended up as an additive to plastics. The amount shown to be estrogenic in a mouse muscle, after injection, would be impossible for a human to consume in 10 lifetimes. This plagues most of the estrogenic research published.

    But selling fear sells media. So no, BPA will not give you tits.

    Now Aeropresses contain "microplastics", despite no evidence they actually do.

    Another example of people believing bad science was the banning of DDT. One ecologists faked data about bird populations and linked it the use of DDT, so everyone banned it. Millions died of malaria as a result.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    One of the big selling features of the original AP was its portability, i.e. you could throw it in your luggage, and durability.

    The glass Premium cancelled those features and was panned for it.

    I can imagine people using the inversion method, which would put the glass part teetering on top while full of hot water while brewing. That would easily tip over, shatter, and cause unhappy customers.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Just the glass

    When I was more likely to have hangovers, my French presses had the habit of choosing that time to leap off the counter and shatter. The plastic Aeropress could survive a drop in just about any kitchen scenario and well beyond.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    $170 (assuming USD). And their cookie prompt is broken, forcing you to accept their trackerware.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    man, the preheating you'll have to do with this...

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    I was thinking about that too, but I have a stainless steel vacuum insulated french press, and I never preheat it.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    the vacuum probably does a lot there.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The APSS says it's vacuum insulated too, but we'll have to see how well it works.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    No. That doesn't change the fact that the metal has a higher specific heat capacity than plastic. The vacuum only makes it so that, once it's hot, it stays hot longer. That's not really useful here as it shouldn't be staying in the aeropress for that long, where it matters. It may actually make it worse, because you'll need thicker walls, and two of them, increasing the mass that you have to heat.

    However, I think the "perfect" heat to brew with is slightly below boiling, so if you just use boiling water then the heat loss is probably fine. Still though, you're paying a premium for what is functionally a downgrade.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    There are better options available for under $170 USD.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago

    Well now we won't have microplastics to add body to our brews.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Big aeropress, glass aeropress, now metal aeropress! What’s next? Gotta diversify that product line for maximum profits!

    (Disclaimer: long time plastic aeropress user here. 😊)

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    As much as I would like to set it on the floor and step on it for “ghettospresso,” that price is ridiculous.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    This makes so much more sense than that ridiculous glass version.

    I'm guessing that Aeropress has lost a ton of market share to the Oxo Rapid Brewer (which appears to be superior to the Aeropress in everyway). Aeropress is now scrambling with any and all ideas to try to recall market share.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The aeropress never made coffee well because it used pressure. It excelled at being a faster cafetière/french press with a paper filter and easier clean up. Outside of large metal lever brewers steams they only way to get pressure that will impact a brew significantly. The oxo rapid brew is more mechanically complex, harder to clean and can only brew a limited set of ways the aeropress can. I don’t think it will out compete the aeropress.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    How do I use the numbers on the outside?

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    They address this in the FAQ:

    The number markings are a recognizable part of the AeroPress design and, by including them on Steel, we're protecting our trademark. To help with fill guidance, the inside of the chamber includes a laser-etched mark at the 5 level that can be seen from above.

    "Protecting trademark"

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 7 months ago

    I don't use the numbers at all. I do inverted, and pull the plunger until it's barely in the cylinder, and fill it from there.

    That makes just enough coffee for a standard 10oz mug.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    I'd love to have one of these, but I can't do it at that price. I'll just keep getting microplastics in me, I suppose..

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Did someone test the aeropress and find lots of microplastics?

    A few people mentioned it here.

    If its a concern, aren't (e.g.) tupperware and coffee flasks too?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Yes, all plastic food service items are of concern.

    *Though the studies on harder plastics have been focused on plasticizers leeching into the food or liquid.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Micro plastics are a concern with all plastic food containers, especially when you’re heating something in them.

    It’s long been a recommendation to not reheat leftovers in plastic

    If you instead use glass or stainless, you don’t have to worry about it. Or in theory they last longer

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I think the idea is that adding boiling water to something made of plastic probably leaches chemicals.

    As far as Tupperware and coffee flasks go, yes. This is also a concern.

    There's plenty more research to do about microplastics. I'm sure the plastic aeropress is still significantly better than using soft plastic disposable coffee pods. I'm not a scientist or doctor though so don't take my word for it.

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  • [+] -11 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Oh, everyone is now scared of micro plastics that have been around for 70 years and no lab has yet to find a mechanism for toxicity. Meanwhile, we have been implanting plastic prosthetics, shunts, pacers, etc. for 70 years and there were no issues.

    Americans love to be scared. BPA doesn't give you tits either.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    "We've been using lead in everything for ages, and everyone is fine!" -- You

    Science takes time, that's how consensus works, but there have been eye-opening studies if you have been paying attention.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    but there have been eye-opening studies if you have been paying attention.

    You picked the wrong guy for this. Junk science in a second rate journal is not eye opening. Correlation is not causation.

    "Compared to adjacent non-cancerous tissues, tumor tissues exhibited a greater variety and distribution of microplastics. "

    Because cancerous tissue does not have the intact structure of normal tissues. They see all kinds of stuff in tumors that the lymphatic system clears out of healthy tissues. That paper does not show HOW plastic polymers could cause tumors, because no one can show this in 50 years of research.

    Again, we have been implanting plastic stents and meshes and prosthetics for 60+ years. The experiment has been done.

    Since this thread is looking for something to be afraid of, look at coffee brewing with and without paper filtration. Filtered brews yield caffeine and compounds healthy for liver functions. Unfiltered coffees contain diterpenes, cafestol and kahweol, which signficantly raise total and LDL cholesterol, which is bad. Actual science, not media driven hype fear.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Let’s assume you’re right (you’re not, but for the sake of argument)

    There are no problems with microplastics. However they are near ubiquitous throughout the environment, across our food chains, in every part of our body. We’re long past the point of being able to clean them up And there are more and more every year.

    Are you really so comfortable that they will never cause problems for ourselves, or any of the millions of types of life forms in our biosphere? That there’s no threshold that’s dangerous? Ever?

    We’re being foolish and short-sighted with our impact on the environment, turning what may not be a problem into if it is, we will have created a worldwide disaster that we can’t do anything about

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    Everything about micro plastics is about how they are everywhere. With them everywhere you'd expect to see them causing a lot of harm but they're not. It really looks like the risk is much lower than it is presented

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Clicked the link, it said "you've got 10% off!" and asked for my email, sure that's fine, then asked for my phone number with this:

    By providing your number and clicking the button, you agree to receive recurring auto-dialed marketing SMS (including cart reminders; AI content; artificial or prerecorded voices) and our Terms of Service (including arbitration).

    Nope, fuck you.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Where's my V60 gang? We take the aeropress camping, but I like the simplicity of the V60 at home

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I've been thinking of switching from my usual French press method to a V60, seems simpler for one cup.

    Have you looked into reusable filters at all or do you use the good ole paper cone?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    We use the brown paper filters (and compost them). But my in-laws have a stainless steel reusable filter and it works pretty well. You have to change your pour "recipe" to avoid pushing grounds through the mesh

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (19 children)

    Do people think that the Aeropress is the ultimate coffee maker? Because if not, why pay the premium? I have one as well and I love it for the 20€ it costs me. For 170€ you could get a decent filter machine. Do people not Google for alternatives?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    It's all just personal preference, but yes, many people do think it's the best way to brew coffee. Some people think it gives you microplastics, but it can't be substantial. If it were substantial you'd see your aeropress wearing away. Washing after your done should keep the amount low, if it were measurable at all.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    You don't need to see wear marks. Microwaving food in plastic containers is enough to cause contamination. Likely the same when filling with hot water; although, haven't seen studies specifically focused on that, I don't think the thicker walls will do much to limit contamination. This is also not considering the plunger.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Yeah, I'm aware. It's just not going to be a substantial source. Microwaving in cheap plastic containers is much higher heat for a longer time, and it's usually flimsy plastic designed to be thrown away. Those containers always warp as they're degrading. I've never seen an aeropress warp. The condition of the plastic does not seem to be effected in any noticeable way. I'm sure you do get a non-zero amount of microplastics, but our water has a non-zero amount of microplastics. We're well beyond the point of worrying about tiny amounts.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    An aeropress is quite a bit more portable than anything bulky and electric.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Some people prefer Aeropress, but would like to drink it without microplastics.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Isn't the rubber lid under the highest mechanical stress? What material did they choose there to avoid plastics?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Not a specialist, but I guess that friction would rub off microplastics both from the lid and the main part, and of the main part is metal, it eliminates that part at least.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    And, the mystery plastic would some how get past the paper filter (micro cellulose!).

    Aero presses don't wear out.

    This thread is giving me microplastics.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Those plastics don't only get inside you, but also into water sources. We can't estimate the impact exactly, and most probably your Aeropress contributes insignificantly.

    Still, if you have money, there are worse ways to spend it than upgrading your plastic appliances. If you don't want to, no shame in continuing using things you got used to. But I invite you to keep in mind that consumers' habits might contribute to global issues.

    As for me, I use a $1 cheap Cezve from Caucasus, and it just works. No need for filters, too.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    The filter machine at that price got plastic?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    AH man it's a shame I gave up coffee two years ago cuz of shitty acid reflux!

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I exclusively use the plastic aeropress (3 years or so) and although upgrading to something stainless seems like a nice upgrade I'd want to revisit best brewing methods and make that decision again before spending $150+. I don't drink coffee every week let alone every month, typically doing week long streaks before taking a break, so this is cool to see but nothing that makes me rush out and upgrade.

    There seems to be some haters in the comments for the aeropress, I guess I'd like to know better alternatives for quickly brewing black coffee for one person.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    French press? Or a freestanding thingy that you put a coffee filter in with a cup underneath for a one cup drip coffee.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I have had an original aeropress for over a decade, and I love it. The fact it's plastic is my only complaint. I would sooner switch to French press or a pour-over cone than spend $150. Not a chance.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 7 months ago

    If you have a source of brew-temperature water handy, such as a water boiler, there's the quick cuccumella method, which is pretty much drip coffee: Fill the coffee filter of the cuccumella with grounds, fill the water container with hot water, invert the cuccumella, and it drips through in a couple of minutes.

    It makes a nice tasting brew: More flavor than an aeropress, but not quite as strong as a moka pot.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    For a mug of coffee:

    • French press for steel filtered coffee
    • Aeropress for slightly faster steel filtered coffee
    • Pour over for paper filtered coffee
    • Drip for paper filtered coffee

    For a shot

    • Espresso machine

    For something between

    • Mocha pot

    Steel filters give more mud in the bottom of the mug, paper filters less. I think the v60 pour over makes the best single or two mugs of coffee

    I use a lever espresso machine at home, the v60 is for travelling, French press in the office

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Maybe I could just find two bits of steel pipe and weld some bits on it. 🤔

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    The company that took over Aeropress is out of touch to say the least. It's a shame they fucked up the product. I really like my old plastic one. Fuck the corpo shit stains who are only motivated by profit.

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