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[–] 76 points 8 months ago

welcome in the cat friendly penguin group

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    [–] 53 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    Y'all's, I don't want to tinker with my OS. I don't wanna think about my OS. I just want my OS to work, mind it's fucking business and leave me alone.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    But have you considered paying for linux pro extreme max?

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Bruh if I could pay a modest yearly subscription to a company and get actual professional personal support for Linux and not have to roll the dice on snarky forum comments, I unironically would.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm 100% in this camp, ive used Pop!_OS now for years and it's never given me any grief! One PC has had it installed for almost 6 years and it still runs flawlessly.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago

    Hacker: Skipper
    Programmer: Kowalski
    Arch User/Gentoo User: Rico
    Cat: Private

    Don't worry, we'll protect you

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Those penguins appear to be Gentoo penguins, so in a way only one belongs

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I bet OP wouldn't even know if gentoo, chinstrap and adelie are penguins or linux distros

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Adelle Linux? I thought there was only Hannah Montana Linux?

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (4 children)
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    [–] 19 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Tbh as an Arch (btw) user I'm not really some magic computer wizard, I struggle with basic python, I often forget command arguments (I take heavy advantage of fish but sometimes it doesn't know the arguments either), I don't know how to do much scripting, I don't make my own config files, and my de is cosmic. Remember that most advanced Linux users are less advanced than people think (occasionally less advanced than even they think).

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    I installed arch using archinstall a few years ago just because i got sold on a custom hyperland config, never looked back.

    I have yet to understand what the fuss is all about with it being difficult or not new user friendly.

    Yes there are weekly updates, and on occasion they do break something, but that was never different on windows.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You do have to install/setup a lot more stuff yourself, fwiw. That's probably largely what it is, that there's little that comes pre-baked. It's basically a build-a-distro toolkit.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Tbh i think the hypeland configuration solved pretty much all that for me.

    The project has been renamed and changed maintainer since but its still very much alive if anyone wants to check it out.

    https://github.com/HyDE-Project/HyDE

    I had never seen a tiling window manager before and my only experience on Linux was a little ubuntu server to run my Minecraft server from.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I'd say most of that is just outdated opinions based on a time when archinstall wasn't yet included in the live ISO and using it was also more frowned upon and seen as a "cheat". Thankfully we mostly got over that second part.

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    [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    Yer a lizard, Harry.

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  • [–] 65 points 8 months ago (23 children)

    I have the Mint (it's fucking good) and no need nor ambition for any other system. Especially an elitist shit which break after an upgrade.

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  • [–] 38 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    haha imagine having to wait for an update to break your system (i use arch, and tried to config limine snapper sync)

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    once had arch, once cachy os, in both the cases after few weeks something was broken after update (libreoffice, matlab)

    never again

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    i actually switched from cachy to arch because when kde plasma 6.6 released it wouldn't let me past the login screen (i'd log in, it'd start loading and freeze the system)

    i used a snapshot to roll back the update and waited for plasma 6.6.1, where instead of freezing it'd just restart. then 6.6.2 released with the same issue as 6.6.0 so i just gave up and installed arch

    btw, i still havent figured out limine+snapper configuration yet

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I distro hopped for a week, and it was the little things that were dealbreakers.

    I love Mint. Mint is love.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    Running Mint xfce on an N100 HTPC with couple of docker containers. I believe this is the most stable OS I ever used. Never breaks, updates are coming regularly. Easy to use for my wife who's never seen Linux in her entire life. Makes 0 hustle and barely consumes any resources. Kind of a "set it and forget it" setup. Fucking love it!

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Mint's a solid choice, I used Mint as a primary or only distro for 10 years, and I've still got it on my laptop. But don't pigeonhole yourself trying to be not like the other girls. I've got Bazzite on my HTPC because Cinnamon is kind of ass at 10 feet, I've got Fedora KDE on my desktop for better Wayland support, and Fedora Gnome on a tablet because it's the only thing that remotely works as a touch-first OS that I could get to actually run on that tablet.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    See? I knew doomscrolling served a purpose. Bookmarked for the info about the tablet.

    Does it work well with low spec tablets? 2Gb RAM 32 (64?) disk?

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  • The machine I have it on is a Lenovo Duet 3i, which has a Pentium processor and either 4 or 8GB of RAM. I bought that machine specifically to use in my wood shop, I wanted a fanless machine that could run FreeCAD.

    As a touch device, it's just this side of unusable. It likes to forget what orientation it was in when waking up from sleep, and doesn't like to correctly find out while waking up. Gnome will sort of mostly function with gestures and larger touch buttons, most apps are still designed very strictly for mouse and keyboard. The onscreen keyboard isn't fantastic. I can confirm that Windows Vista had a better tablet experience than present day Fedora Gnome. But it functions.

    I tried Fedora KDE, and trying to get Fedora KDE to be a tablet OS was a fool's errand, the features aren't even half-baked, they're on the counter waiting for the oven to preheat. Fedora offers a KDE Touch image which I found runs like boiled butt.

    I have no experience with ARM tablets; this is on an x86 tablet (or one of those Surface knockoffs with the keyboard that pops off).

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Im the guy who has to tell all the kids mint is run by volunteers who are not actually up to the task of running a secure OS. It's not as bad as manjaro but it is not good either. Please stop making this people's first distro, it's an ubuntu fork that hasn't needed to exist since spins came out.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I put a lot of will strength to not downvote this.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Why? It's the cold hard truth. Mint was created as an Ubuntu alternative that would be prettier and appear more like windows. It has never had solid corprate backing or even pillars of the FOSS community working on it. It's a hobby project and not even a unique one anymore. Just use a fedora, buntu, debian or suse spin for new people.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The "cold hard truth" is that volunteers are more than up to stripping some the nonsense back off of ubuntu, and plenty of the people that made it good back in the day are involved with mint now. It's no one's favorite but this much hate for the beigest of distros is weird to me and your take on its origins is just plain wrong

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    No. They are not up to it. It's the #1 distro on Lemmy and it shouldn't be.

    To be clear the only distro I hate is Manjaro, mint I only think about when people here remind me it's popular. Downvote away, your oppinion is meaningless.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    Isn't Linux mostly either a hobby project for a huge majority of it's contributors, or the origin of the rest?

    I kinda seem to remember that the Linux family tree is littered with failed corporate backed distros.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Where my debian as desktop homies at?

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Not trying to win contests. Just glad it ain't winders.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Marduk I don't know why you chose your username but it is my favorite of all the Mesopotamian/Babylonian I forget gods so I love it when I see your name pop up. First prize! :3

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I've used it forever. 90's or early 00's. Started with pazuzu from i think final fantasy or similar game.

    Then was thinking of ancient gods as well. Fight between Marduk and tiamat.

    Just stayed with that.

    Well glad i can bring happiness where i can. Have a great day.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    I daily drive FreeBSD and have tinkered with Plan 9 and Haiku.

    My Linux desktop (for gaming, DRM, and Linux-specific stuff), my wife's laptop, the kids' laptops, and our two media PCs all run Mint. It's great.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    As an Arch user: welcome! It'll be a little work, but you're gonna be a-okay.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    I noticed that little quote there btw.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    At the end of the day for new and casual users, support wins. Ubuntu has the largest community of support, making Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu while having a more elegant variety of UI, making it a good compromise. Good choice.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Mint Debian based these days?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Regular Mint is based off of Ubuntu, which is Debian based itself. However, it is somewhat beholden to the Ubuntu way of doing things.

    They do have a version that uses a plain Debian base, so they're not reliant on Canonical. That version is LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition).

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I’m pretty sure the rest of them felt that way on day 1 / year 1 too.

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  • If you have any problems with Blueman not letting Bluetooth controllers work, install KDE system settings. Don't know why that works but it does.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Don’t worry. You can just as easily wreck your Mint install as any other distro, as soon as you start to poke around.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    And, importantly: the same applies to Windows. How many updates has Windows had that broke something essential with no user intervention?

    Fact of the matter is any OS can break if you purposefully try to poke around without knowing what you're doing.

    What distros that are more "resilient" to breaking do is either prevent you from easily/accidentally poking around, prevent you from applying updates willy-nilly, or set up easy rollbacks in case something breaks (or a combination of these).

    Imo, if you're not a tinkerer and you have a distro with backups properly setup, you're very likely gonna be fine no matter what distro you choose.

    Though Mint is still awesome and if you don't have any problems with it just keep using it.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    As a someone who wanted to play around with mint after already using arch for a longer while to check out "distrohopping": easier*

    (went right back to my comfort space of arch real quick, don't really get distrohopping yet, how do I actually do that properly?)

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I use cachy os because I like my pc to go fast as fuck boy

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Been using Pop_OS! For almost 4 years now. Now I have SteamOS on my deck, headless Linbuntu on my mini PC, and MacOS on my work machine. Still love coming back to pop, especially with the new Cosmic DE.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Me who just have install Ubuntu.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

    I mean yeah. This is going to be me as soon as I fix my next two one! life and death problems and hang the drapes, and also post a picture on here of the picture we found thrifting because i am excited that it helps color my room I don't care that it's a print of AI bullshit. I can put a print of something better there eventually but it catches the eye right now.

    In the meantime, is there a "these are the cli commands you need to know" Linux for stoned dummies cause I haven't used it since college and that was decades ago

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    If you intend on using a normal desktop distro, you will usually be able to find the command for what you want to do online. You may not even end up typing any command, I remember someone who was hyped to use the terminal being disappointed that he never got to.

    The "essential" cli commands are the ones that you will definitely not use in an everyday desktop life. It's going to be about file manipulation, maybe some daemon management and networking. All of this will be either preconfigured or done through a file explorer and web browser.

    If you can say what you want to do and with what distro, maybe people can try to anticipate what you'll need? I would generally advise to wait for a reason to use a command before worrying about learning it.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    I plan on breaking my computer with mint cinnamon. Does that help any?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Just remember that there is an emergency tty in the ctrl alt f1-7 somewhere. I never remember which one, so spam them until it appears, usually when I maxed my ram and have no swap

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    TeleTypeWriter? sorry, have some Deaf friends so that is the first thing that comes to mind

    edit oh gods i've even had my coffee that's not even the same letter. this is the first time i have felt shame in... hold on i need to get a calendar. 22 years, 4 months, 23 days. oh gosh.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/

    This is a lot of fun. Starts off pretty basic with the cli, and gets way more advanced.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    i want to try this but part of me says i'm going to end up with a felony in 39 nonconsecutive countries

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I think the main thing to keep in mind when doing any of these hacking games is permission. Do you have permission to do what you are doing? With overthewire they give you permission to do the challenges. If you were to try to go outside of what they say you can do, and try to pivot to another part of their system to hack, that'd be illegal.

    If you're interested beyond cli stuff like otw/bandit has check out tryhackme.com They have a lot of fun beginner friendly stuff as well.

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  • the game tells me i have permission, but do i really? for all i know i'm really hacking into a cia blacksite's third backup or something. i mean i'm not really that paranoid, but i can imagine what my qanon sovcit quiverfull brother would think it might be and go one worse, and then see if i can afford to lose that gamble y'know

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Next month will be two years in Mint exclusively. I have no complaints.

    Well, I do miss the big preview window in File Explorer, but otherwise, I'm happy to be rid of Windows.

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  • Welcome to the pengulution

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Linux Mint is the gateway penguin.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    even by just becoming a linux user, you are helping making it more mainstream

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  • Me but with Kubuntu instead of mint

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