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[–] 35 points 8 months ago

A large number of transgender job applicants don’t even make it past the interview process, according to Ortiz (Andrew Ortiz, a staff attorney at the Transgender Law Center). Further, he pointed out, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, under Donald Trump, has in fact been weaponized against trans people, dropping cases it had brought on behalf of trans employees and instructing career staff not to process trans employees’ complaints.

“We have no faith that this EEOC has any interest in protecting the rights of trans folks, and is even doing things to make it easier to treat them poorly,” Ortiz said.

In an email, Ash Lazarus Orr, press relations manager at Advocates for Trans Equality, said trans people continue to face “major barriers” to employment. Orr cited the 2022 U.S. Trans Survey, an anonymous online survey for transgender people ages 16 and older, which found that more than 80 percent of respondents reported being harassed or discriminated against at work because of their gender identity, more than 10 percent who said they had been fired, forced to resign, or laid off due to it, and a jobless rate among the trans community overall nearing 20 percent.

“The dismissal of trans employees has consequences beyond the individual,” Lazarus Orr said, “it can perpetuate a culture of discrimination and exclusion that discourages talented trans people from pursuing fulfilling careers.”

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Chili’s crappy quality doesn’t align with my desire to eat delicious meals.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That's blatant discrimination. I hope they sue and get millions. 

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    [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    This is why state level protections are important.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    microwave meals and day drinking align pretty well with the women in my life, so idk what Chili’s is on about 🤷

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Chili's is about so much more than selling middle aged burnouts an overpriced martini and microwaved nachos.

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    [–] 139 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Oh, well I haven’t eaten at Chili's in about 20 years, but I was just talking about going again last week.

    Guess I’m not going to do that…

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I’d much rather eat at Chotchkie’s. More flair.

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    At $60 to $70 for 2 people to eat out? Fuck that.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Texas Roadhouse family meals (takeout only tho) is where it's at. Near me it's $60 for 4 steaks (28oz total), 2 1lb sides, about a dozen rolls, salad. Or $50 for the same but with 24 chicken tendies instead of steak.

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  • [–] 88 points 8 months ago* (9 children)

    What kinda values could a restaurant chain that microwaves the shittiest food on the planet possibly have?

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Excuse me, that's Applebees. Chili's only microwaves some things and deep fries others.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Other than the sign on the building, how can you even tell them apart?

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well, for me, I spent 15 years in a very small metro in the panhandle of Florida. When the community theatre folks hung out, a lot of the regulars would go to Applebees. The "edgy"/"outcast" would tend to go to Chilis.

    Frankly, the bigoted stuff from the submission aside, both are… fine enough places to hang out and get food. It's not great, but it's not terrible.

    I liked the Chilis because the ribs were pretty decent. Not amazing, but decent enough. My wife appreciated their battered chicken tenders, until they got rid of them. She's autistic and that texture is better for her.

    Applebees was more boring to me. I can't tell you off the top of my head what I ever ate there, but it was alright.

    In both cases it was more about hanging out with friends.

    So really, to answer your question: Meh. lol.

    And yes, I know it was rhetoical, but I have ADHD, so I answered anyway. :)

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    As a lurker who also has ADHD your non-answer here gave me a laugh 😆

    Is it part of either/both business’ strategy to open a new location in the same town/strip as the rival location? The Applebees-vs-Chilis experience rings true for me as well. Give the American populace a way to differentiate themselves with extremely similar options lol

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    So there's actually four separate reasons for this phenomenon that is partly purposeful and partly accidental/happenstance:

    1. Imagine two ice cream vendors on a busy beach. One opens up in the middle of everything. Another one sees there's room for competition, but where to open? Do they go down the beach a ways? Well, if they do, they limit the customers to half of the beach. So they open up next door, also right in the middle of the peak crowd.
    2. Imagine going to a Chilis or Applebees and finding out there's a half hour wait for a table. Would you go 20 minutes down the road to the other place to see if there's a line? But you might cross the street if they were closer.
    3. Some smaller chains will specifically try to build around larger chains in the hopes that people going to the more well-known chain will see the other chain and be more likely to change their mind and eat there instead
    4. For cities with zoning, they often try to create centers of commerce, which means there's a limited number of areas that restaurants can open, so this cluesters everyone up as well

    So whether there's an active attempt to open them near each other, it's going to naturally happen. :)

    And I do think it's fascinating (and highly disappointing) that a lot of these places that started out with a particular vision have sort of sysco'd themselves into bland average boringness, just to eke out a little more profit for the shareholders. meh.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Chilis always had a fucking terrible dry-ass black bean burger as a vegetarian option, but Applebees had broccoli alfredo that was pretty palatable. It’s not like the chilis one was vegan, either.

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  • [–] 55 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 43 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    So easy, I’ve been accidentally boycotting them for decades.

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago

    I guess this is how I learn that Chili's is actually still in business

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  • [–] 76 points 8 months ago

    My expectation of "edible food" doesn't align with what Chili's offers, which is why I don't go there. Everyone has their beliefs, I suppose.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago

    Fuck chilis and fuck chic fil a, I have never ordered either and will never order either

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The casual dining chain, which is owned by publicly traded Brinker International, professes to believe in “a culture of belonging,” telling job applicants that it welcomes “those of all genders, races, ethnicities, sexual orientations, abilities, religions, age and backgrounds.”

    “We celebrate these differences through a culture of belonging where individual strengths and stories are respected and valued,” ChilisJobs.com asserts. “We’re proud to be a community-oriented meeting place and want everyone to feel welcome at Chili’s.”

    I don't understand the utility of proclaiming your company to be a bastion for the people you clearly hate. Why entice them to become employees just to fire them? And in firing them, receive a tidal wave of bad press and probable lawsuits? 🤷‍

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    One thing you need to understand about chain restaurants is that they are not all micromanaged by a central corporation. They are franchises. Usually, a franchisee pays for a license and owns one or more stores in a region. They have certain standards they need to meet to fulfill their franchise requirements, but small day-to-day decisions about how to run the store are up to them. Chili's corporate might espouse all those values they list in their talking points (though I've personally seen companies turn their values on a dime when they think it is hurting their bottom-line). But they probably have very limited, if any direct input on hiring/firing decisions at a single restaurant. At most, they might step in and pressure the franchise owner to reverse this decision if they think it hurts the brand image.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Exactly what kind of sex is going on at Chili's? Anything I should know?

    Is it getting into the food???

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Judging by the restaurant staff I've known, a lot. Those people fuck more than porn stars.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Line cooks are way uglier than porn stars.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Line cooks tend to be degenerates. The best kind of degenerates.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    If Chili’s actually gave a shit about “personal values” they wouldn’t be able to hire cooks. Some might pass a drug test because they’re on supervision, but not a single one is going to pass a morality screening.

    Source: 20yrs as a line cook.

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    a trans man who was assigned female at birth

    Isn't that what "trans man" means?

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    If you just say "trans man" at a bunch of people, a significant portion of them will think you mean "a man who has decided they are trans and wants to be a woman". Because recognizing the gender someone identifies as is catering to their delusion or whatever bigots tell themselves to get by.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    Before all the recent hullabaloo in recent years, I couldn't remember which meant which way - because I could give two fucks - just let them be who they are.

    Now I've had to learn a lot (which I don't resent learning) so I can help stand up for their rights, and it's really easy to remember. But it's sort of like "biweekly" or "semiweekly" before you actually pay attention - both of those terms mean both something that happens twice per week or once every other week (although I tihnk biweekly more strongly implies twice per week, but it can absolutely be used for both).

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    I suppose that's true that even people who aren't necessarily bigots can struggle to understand what being trans is. My boomer parents aren't transphobic, but they do struggle with the concept that when a person realizes they're trans it retroactively means that they were always the gender they currently go by, even if they themselves didn't know it at the time. I got into an argument with my dad when he kept calling the child of someone he knew "he" when talking about her in the past before she came out as trans. I tried to explain that, no, she was a she then as well, but didn't know it herself and presented as a he, but he just didn't get it.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    In the defense of your father that could also be down to how his brain categorizes things. Just as an example for myself, the actor Elliot Page technically has two different "entries" in my brain which if I could verbalize would be something along the lines of Ellen Page = Dead override Elliot Page = Alive, why is my brain doing it like that? Who knows, it's probably the autism, but it does keep me from dead naming him.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I have a girlfriend who is trans and I knew her in the "before time" before she transitioned. When she talks about when she was a kid she refers to herself as "when I was a little girl".

    She was always a girl.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It must be so confusing for those kids. Their society, parents, relatives tell them one thing. But in their head they know they are another. My heart goes out to them.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah. I'm married to a non binary person (we're Poly, hence the girlfriend) and they didn't change their name or gender markers until after we were married. But them describing to me about their childhood, their parents (who I adore but still struggle with the whole gender thing) and everything... Seeing their baby pictures they're like "THAT'S NOT A GIRL! THAT'S TOTALLY IN BETWEEN!" and they're right.

    I'm just happy they can truly be themselves with me.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Why would a massively corporate chain have personal values and lifestyles? Just sell your shitty burgers.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    I always see stories like this and I think to myself I can't even boycott them because I wasn't eating there already. Not that I can really afford to eat out anywhere though...

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago

    It's entirely possible the employees sucked, but for Chili's to fire them the way they did is nuts. The fact that there's a pattern means there's gonna be some fat paychecks going around.

    I'll continue my tradition of not eating at Chili's in support.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    so chili is not so spicy, it ha to adhere to bland taste of right wingers.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    personal values

    Meaning you're not a fundamentalist extremist christofascist. That is a compliment, actually, even though they don't know it

    Lifestyle

    Yes, I too would do multiple very expensive and very painful operations and god knows how many therapy sessions for fun, because that's my style, baby!

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Did they think they could get away with this. Firing someone because of their personal life. crazy.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They haven't yet not gotten away with it. I don't maintain much optimism that they won't.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    Oh come on! It's not 'personal values' or 'lifestyle values’. They are just following current medical standards for what should be done against body dysphoria.

    A medical decision backed by current science.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Chili's has no values, like any other corporate food slop provider. If people would pay, they'd use actual babies in the ribs.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Were they a fascist pedophile?

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I guess I'll continue to never patronize a Chili's. Wtfuck is "Chili's" any way? Is it someone's nickname? Do they have a chili that owns things?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Much like how Nigerian Prince emails use bad grammar and spelling to filter out people with half a brain, they're using the stupid name as a way to filter out folks who won't pay $30/ea to eat garbage in a room that smells like a dirty rag.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Damn, no more southwest eggrolls for this family I guess.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Monday, I drove my wife and youngest to Omaha to adopt a puppy (golden retriever). We were going to eat at Chili's because at least it's a known food. Well, the person we were getting the dog from was available early, so we did drive through.

    Fucking bullet dodged.

    Puppy tax https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/cc8f648a-d39a-4f15-899d-dc59475ea7a2.webp

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  • I feel like that's a reverse backhanded compliment. So I guess just compliment.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I haven't been in a Chili's in forever, and I don't expect to go again. So I'm going to avoid everything from Brinker International [NYSE: EAT] now (Chili's and Maggiano's Little Italy), and I'm thinking that I might sell some of it short too.

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