Lindsey Graham, the veteran Republican senator who has been pushing for war against Iran for decades, has issued a dire warning to the Iranian government, saying it was worth spending money to “take this regime down”.

“When this regime goes down, we are going to have a new Middle East, and we are going [to] make a tonne of money,” Graham, a longtime proponent of US military intervention abroad, told Fox News on Sunday.

Graham, who has been one of the Trump administration’s most vocal supporters of Israel and the war against Iran, appeared to suggest that the US abduction of Venezuela’s left-wing leader Nicolas Maduro and the attack on Iran were launched to gain control over each country’s oil supplies.

“Venezuela and Iran have 31 percent of the world’s oil reserves. We’re going to have a partnership with 31 percent of the known reserves. This is China’s nightmare. This is a good investment,” said Graham.

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[–] 228 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

Fuck you "we." "We" who!? When oil companies profit "we" don't see a fucking dime of that money especially with your corporate "taxation" bullshit where they get loophole after loophole to pay nothing.

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  • [–] 90 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Well, he means himself and his friends, which is what all politicians have always meant when they say "we" are going to benefit from their decisions.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    "We, the people"... except for women, non white, non Protestants, poor, ...

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    (a la thejuicemedia) Oh sweetie..

    Political English is tricky.
    The "we" in, "we are going to make lots of money", has absolutely no relation to the "we" in, "we have to make sacrifices".

    Other terms that often confuse proletarians: beautiful justice tax cuts freedom security unprecedented elites transparency socialist free speech patriot ...

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  • [–] 113 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Profits over people once again.

    Republicans are genuinely traitors to the US. It’s hard to put into words how much I hate them.

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  • [–] 86 points 8 months ago (3 children)
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    No blood for oil. It was evil and stupid in the 00s, and it's worse today now that oil is increasingly replaceable

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The hilarious thing is that the American voter is supposed to be thinking of themselves when he says "we". I would kinda understand the logic of continuing the forever war as a voter if everyone got a fat check once we ended the Iraq war. At least then I could understand that it is pure greed driving people to vote for war mongers.

    In the end "we" is a small group of oil barons who made billions while footing the multi trillion bill to the tax payer. Unfortunately this just means that the average voter is greedy, but to stupid to actually benefit from their own avarice.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Still hoping for that trickle down 40 years later.

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  • [–] 79 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

    Meanwhile, China has been hard focused on renewables and lowering their need for oil.

    Good plan Lindsey...if it was 2006 not 2026.

    These old fucks are still thinking like it's 1986.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    They have a big focus on nuclear power as well, they have 59 operating nuclear power plants with over 28 under construction. Nuclear is just as important as renewables at this current time in our technological evolution. We need better energy storage technology for pure renewable to work well.

    It would also be sick if nuclear fusion becomes a reality and makes all other power generation obsolete, generally.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    It would also be sick if nuclear fusion becomes a reality and makes all other power generation obsolete, generally.

    That will never happen, without scarcity they can't make obscene profits year over year so Fusion will be patented and shelved.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    In a capitalist country sure, maybe some other country's will take advantage.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (6 children)

    You don't think America will attack another country to protect it's economic intrests?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    No, they're not doing this for rational economic interest. They're bombing iran to cover up the elstein files. They bombed Iraq to get bush re-elected after tech bubble and 9/11.

    You give them way too much credit assuming they make rational economic decisions, they start wars for ego and panicking to cover up crimes. It's a shit show in every way.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I was making a hypothetical about future military intervanetions to protect economic intersts, not the pedophile in cheifs current distraction campaign Operation Epstein Folly

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yes and when in history has the US rationally started a war for economic motives?? Not Iran, not Iraq, not Vietnam, not Korea, heck not even WW2 and WW1. So maybe the Spanish American war? But i dont think we ever made money in Cuba Phillipines or Puerto Rico either.

    War is not economically rational, and the US leaders aren't rational when they start wars either.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    With the military industrial complex this country has? War is hugely profitable, sure it might bankrupt the Federal government but the defense contractors make a killing every time. The people have to pay for it, the wealthy get richer. Seems like business as usual in the US.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I almost throw up when I heard it.

    "Let's kill people by the thousands. It will make us money"

    Primitive baboons.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They rape children and will go to prison for life if they don't keep it up. Nothing should be shocking they will sell their own grandmas to stay free and unaccountable.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Yup. I used to think Lindsay was just a clueless idiot. I mean he is, but think carefully about what he said there . . . the utter contempt it shows for the ordinary people on both sides who will be maimed and killed for his greed. That is just 100% concentrated evil.

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago

    Remember when we joked about america invading anything for oil and then we all stopped for a bit because they tried to convince us that there was more to the US than being the state equivelent of a crackhead with a dozen shotguns? And then they launched a self described war to bring about the apocalypse and also steal all the oil... can we stop pretending everything is ok!?

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  • [–] 38 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Ah it's the 2000s again. They'll top it off with a global financial crisis. Probably the AI bubble collapsing or succeeding and destroying all the jobs.

    Maybe the Americans will elect an Obama 2.0 after. Maybe not. There wasn't MAGA last time. More likley it'll be president mecha-Hitler or something this time around.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I’m still not down from my hate-high after the last election. America doesn’t need someone else to step in and responsibly commandeer the government. Not yet.

    The pain must go on long enough for the lesson to stick.

    Conserv卐tives don’t learn until they’re personally affected. Not all of them are as yet affected.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    Textbook psychopath. A truly immoral, sadistic, bloodthirsty bastard of the sort Hunter Thompson would conjure to represent the foulest archetype of American politics.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Thompson has said that as much as he hated Nixon, he would vote for him against Bush and Cheney. If he learned that USians elected Trump just one time after the 2015-16 campaign, his head would explode on its own.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    There is no textbook definition of psychopath that holds up to scrutiny or can even be verified using modern psychology research.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    You seem so sure of this statement. Care to expound on this train of thought?

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago

    For those not old enough to remember, they said the Iraqi war would pay for itself with all of that oil.

    It did not.

    But, Graham isn't talking "we" the US people, but "we" as in the club we're not in, AKA bOtH pArTiEs Super Friends.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago

    Who is this "we" that keep talking about? I haven't seen Jack shit.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago

    Conservatives are so clownishly selfish.

    They're the hamster that gets mad at the other hamster and shits in the shared food bowl out of spite.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago

    Same old Republican party. Waste of oxygen IMHO.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago

    War-mongering, conquering, and looting the spoils. Some things never change.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    We're expected to believe Graham was speaking in metric?? Fake news!

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    For the longest time, I only heard about "Kia Stahma" on UK panelshows. The first time I saw his name in print ("Kier Starmer") I was llke - wait - not one, not two, but THREE r's??? WTF! lol

    I still feel weird when I head a American broadcaster talk about "Kier Starmer". It just sounds wrong to me. heh.

    But yeah, as the other person replying mentioned, it's Al Jazeera, so they heard "tons" and wrote "tonnes". I'd almost not even call that an error, just an accidental choice. Transcription gets rough. You think "How hard is it to transcribe?" but written and spoken language are VERY different, even before you get into regionalization and accents. :)

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    "Kier" is not a common name, nor is "Starmer." So at a certain point, it's just a bunch of syllables and you have to just do the best you can.

    I knew a Japanese person who, upon hearing former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's name, couldn't hear anything except a common phrase in cooking recipes, "golden brown."

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    Believe in the underpants gnomes theory!

    1. Invade Iran at an estimated $1B a day and service men dying. And do that for several months (I hope not longer)
    2. ....
    3. Profit!
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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Who do you think that billion dollars a day goes to?

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    And it's the same people. Who are also clever enough to profit from a bull market or a bear market. Who cares, just as long as one or the other doesn't stay too long so they can profit off the swing.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    The humans on this planet really are going to incinerate themselves over little green pieces of paper.

    This whole timeline feels like Vogon poetry

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    There's no way he said tonne with the e at the end like that.

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  • [–] 33 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    “Venezuela and Iran have 31 percent of the world’s oil reserves. We’re going to have a partnership with 31 percent of the known reserves. This is China’s nightmare. This is a good investment,” said Graham.

    You don't have "partnerships" with people whose countries you've bombed and invaded and whose resources you are stealing. Those people hate you and want to kill you. You fucking fool.

    There's no way to hold territory without boots on the ground and another Forever War.

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  • Not to mention what good does it do. China is moving to electric vehicles, and solar power. Sure you'll want to use gas powered ships for now, but half of the ships traversing oceans are simply moving fuel around, which won't be needed as the electricity doesn't need to be shipped if it comes from solar. Will large shipments still be needed, of course, but wouldn't it be against the U.S. own interest to have high oil costs for the country shipping them items. As in every item would cost more for American consumers to have it shipped, it would be like putting a tariff on Chinese goods.... Oh... I forgot making the American worker pay more to line the pockets of the oil companies is what they want, got it.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

    “Venezuela and Iran have 31 percent of the world’s oil reserves. We’re going to have a partnership with 31 percent of the known reserves."

    Kinda saying the quiet part loud there, aren't you, Lindsey? In prior decades the government at least pretended its wars were about anything other than oil...

    "This is China’s nightmare."

    No it's not. China has been embracing the future by investing in renewables. It's not stuck in the past, and it doesn't give a shit if you are. The oil economy is dead and dying. It will be replaced, and at this rate the US won't be ready for it. China is laughing.

    "This is a good investment”

    War isn't a fucking investment! Are dollar signs all you see?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    No it’s not. China has been ambracing the future by investing in renewables. It’s not stuck in the past, and it doesn’t give a shit if you are. The oil economy is dead and dying. It will be replaced, and at this rate the US won’t be ready for it. China is laughing.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I'm not usually one to talk nice about the PRC, but in this case it's just the truth.

    And if the US is turning into an authoritarian oligarchy surveillance state, then I might as well side with the authoritarian oligarchy surveillance state that's at least converting to green energy. There's literally no reason to side with the US against China anymore, and it's the US's own damn fault!

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    China has never produced a lot of energy relying on oil in the first place. They did improve a lot adding renewables to the pie, but sadly, they still heavily rely on coal.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Oil is still very useful. Especially when we stop burning it to make cars go forward or to fertilize crops.

    A mostly electric future is a safer place

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Another point I don't see brought up often is how much we use oil for basically everything else. Clothing (polyester), packaging, flooring, so many consumer goods globally are made from polymers. I hate it but the oil problem doesn't go away with just transitioning to renewables for energy.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    meanwhile gas prices just doubled, thanks for that america. get rid of your fascist regime, please? :(

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Please stop buying from the fascist regime and its allies, and please stop using the US dollar for international trade

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • Fantastic! That means no need to pay taxes for the next 3 years

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Lindsey graham is a child rapist and murderer who is owned by AIPAC

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Make sure the shitbag's grandchildren are fucking drafted! The MAGA fucks always said the USA has enough oil reserves to be self-sufficient. As usual, BS!

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    We're going to have the HOTTEST economy ever! - MAGA

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