Whether it was due to the early hour of the day or just to the blood-thirsty nature of the moment, Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth appeared particularly unhinged during the first official news ...

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[–] 140 points 8 months ago (3 children)

No stupid rules of engagement

This sounds like a great way to get your planes shot down by allies!

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  • [–] 87 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Whether it was due to the early hour of the day or just to the blood-thirsty nature of the moment, Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth appeared particularly unhinged during the first official news briefing about President Donald Trump’s attacks on Iran.

    are they implying he was still drunk from the night before? 🤫

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  • [–] 50 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I think a big part no one talks about, is all these old men are on gender affirming hormone care because their physical identity doesn't match their mental identity.

    They want to be 20 again, so they're shooting up enough testorone that they have the logic and critical thinking of a 20 year old.

    The alcoholism isn't helping, but that's not where the bloodlust is coming from.

    I've had a couple friends try, and I honestly don't know why anyone over 40 would ever want to feel 20 again. They all love if for like 6-12 months, before they realize acting like they're 20 again isn't a good thing and it's fucking their lives up.

    When the people running the country are on it, they're fucking all our lives up, the alcoholism is why Hegsworth can't come that realization on his own, or listen to anyone telling him.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    T shouldn't impact their logic or critical thinking, but it will impact their emotional regulation and impulse control. At least based on my experience with trans guys. And anecdotally when I started E I had about a year or so of getting into stupid fights with my mom despite knowing better before my body adjusted. Getting back to the right amount would probably calm them down, but these guys are more juiced up than a bodybuilder who can't do math. They're probably also being tilted by their grapes turning to raisins from that.

    But yeah it's a drunken roid rage by a man who simply refused to mature or develop logic or critical thinking since their teens. And I think that's a bigger component to his inability to see than the T or the hooch. These men never grew the fuck up, and as such rather than living a good life at each stage, seeking to grow and mature until it is time to return to the earth, they strive to live a life eternally young and foolish, unable to even see that their unhappiness stems from this lifestyle.

    And yeah, don't get me wrong, I miss feeling young, but hormonal instability wasn't fun either time. I like having stable emotions that can be reasonably controlled.

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  • [–] 78 points 8 months ago

    Rules of engagement are literally how you define the difference between a civilian and an enemy combatant.

    "No rules of engagement" is military lingo for "yes to all the war crimes."

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  • [–] 78 points 8 months ago (22 children)

    No stupid rules of engagement, no nation-building quagmire, no democracy-building exercise, no politically correct wars.

    No democracy, no nation building. So what is the actual goal here? Just to shoot stuff for its own sake?

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  • [–] 63 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Now I'm hearing that the commanders all gave their troops a speech about doing this for God and Christianity, etc., so it seems like the primary motivation was to kick off the End Times for the religious freaks.

    So we're in it until The Rapture. Our entire world has to burn down to satisfy the fantasies of delusional religious weirdos, so the Sociopathic Oligarchs can comb through the rubble for treasure.

    How about we just Rapture the entire MAGA leadership, and move on?

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I am an atheist, but if heaven and hell exist, they should know, there is enough space in hell for them.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago

    No god worth worshipping would condone their actions. I stand by the wisdom of Marcus Aurelius, that I will live a moral life and reject any god that has a problem with it. Killing to kill is the mandate of an evil god.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    I understand. Whenever one of these psychopaths assume room temperature, I'm always slightly sad that I don't believe in their mythology.

    When Dick Cheney croaked, I remember thinking that it would be really nice to be able to smile at the thought of him having his Welcome Orientation in Hell. Instead, I was just sad for the person who didn't get a heart because Cheney took it.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    "Democracy" and "nation building" is just "occupation" by another name. So I guess we can take some comfort in that not being their goal?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Sometimes. It can be done honorably and with good outcomes; Japan and Germany post-WW2 are good examples.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Those are the good examples, and they worked very well. But ever since, the US seems to think they can replicate the effect by going in, bombing the place, shooting some locals, and declaring mission accomplished.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    There are very few absolutes in life. War is bad, until you need to kill some Nazis. Occupation is bad, until you tread that fine line between Treaty of Versailles (too heavy) and 1800's Reconstruction (too light). Statistically, you're almost certainly not doing the right thing.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I have a feeling it's as simple as wanting to use all the toys they've spent trillions on over the years and just want to see big explosions and play war.

    Imagine if our society provided taxpayer funded paintball/airsoft/bomb ranges so all these warmongers can get their rocks off without hurting people.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Also, bold move to more or less openly defy the American ideals. The moral justification for a lot of what we've done is to further the cause of democracy. I don't think starting a war to bring democracy is necessarily the right decision, but starting a war and not even trying to spread democracy with it is un-American (derogatory)

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I thought the whole reason for this was the fact that Iran has killed and imprisoned record numbers of protesters. That sounds to me like regime change is the goal here, but perhaps I'm wrong.

    I certainly don't think they'll ever succeed in bringing democracy (US track record is atrocious there), but at least it'd be nice if they pretended to try.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The goal is not to make Bush's mistake of setting a goal that they can later be held accountable to.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Balkanization I think, but I don’t think that will happen because Iran has been a pretty cohesive country for thousands of years. So I suspect Trump will back down, or there will be a multi decade regional war, or there will be a world war.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    I dunno, the author of this article is Iranian-American. I think he has plenty of information and insight on the situation, I'm inclined to trust his assessment.

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  • [–] 59 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    People dunk on Pete about alcohol because he’s been drunk at inappropriate times in the past, but I think they basically ignore the fact that he probably does a ton of blow too.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Definitely. He has to be sharp and focused while making terrible decisions.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    I thought he was using claude for that?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    They kicked Claude out because Anthropic doesn't want it to be used to kill people. They use chatGPT now

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Even worse, it's because Anthropic didn't want it used for mass surveillance on US citizens. They were fine with the military using it for military things.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    While both are shit, it's a true example of the grass being greener on both sides.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I don't know. I think I would take Anthropic's stance. I'm okay with the military making their work more efficient. It still needs to be a human making the decisions in the kill chain, but there is a ton of processes that can be made better. I'm not okay with mass surveillance of US citizens at any capacity though. Especially not by the DoD...

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Why do these assholes get to do all the good drugs?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    If any of these fucks tried some LSD they'd kill themselves the next day.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I’ve met plenty of assholes who do LSD. (In fact, for some of them it’s almost an excuse for their behavior.)

    I get where you’re trying to go here, but for these people, no amount of self realization or reflection will help them to understand how or why they fit into the world.

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  • [–] [S] 166 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Fun fact: the last head of state who launched a war without rules of engagement was Adolf Hitler.

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I dunno, maybe putting an alcoholic psychopath in charge of the armed forces wasn't a great idea.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    no nation-building quagmire

    Surely this is how you build the next generation of aggrieved suicide bombers?

    Oh, and create an absolutely massive migrant problem.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    For whom?

    Europe most probably. This will strenghten right wing parties and weaken thr union... win-win. While the majority of EU is licking US boots after they started a war of agression against a sovereign nation with little to no justification of any kind... I'm tired Boss.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    with little to no justification of any kind

    I mean Hegseth Rubio said that it was pre-emptive retaliatory action for what the Iranians were surely going to do after the Israelis attacked them. Is that not good enough for you?

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago*

    Is that why we're shooting down our own F-15s? His ROE is just "if you see something, shoot something?"

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    He’s not high. He’s drunk.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    Ergh these plebs trying tell hegseth how to fight wars, he was totally great at wars which is why his whole career was totally in the military, except for that time he left for a while because all those stupid generals wouldn't listen to his great ideas, well now look who has to listen to who huh?!

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    My favorite was "no more politically correct wars"...... So I guess the only option moving forward is politically incorrect wars? I don't think I can keep up with the Machiavellian minds of this 4d chess administration.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Netanyahu and trump are Mussolini and Hitler 2.0

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    The media will soon turn public opinion in favor of the war.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    They already have. I met a new neighbor last week, he asked what I did for a living and I mentioned my military background, and the guy said explicitly "I hope we go over there and destroy the whole place, nuke it even."

    Of course it was a 60+ year old white guy with a high-school education that worked blue-collar his entire life.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Those people have been around decades though. I had a classmate in high school in the early 10s demanding we nuke Iran despite us not being at war with them and us actively being involved in the wildly unpopular Afghanistan war.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I have seen video of so called “counter protestors” wearing MIGA hats, which I assume is Make Iran Great Again. I’m not sure how representative of the Iranian immigrant population this is, but it’s starting to remind me of why so many Cuban immigrants vote Republican because of their relationship with their original country.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Is that him admitting to bombing those girls?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Send this absolute fucking shithawk to The Hague.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    "No stupid rules of engagement"?

    Too late.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    I'm surprised this idiot isn't calling himself "war secretary".

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    fox news host drama. ad lib

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    So their plan to cheat the election is sending the troops to die in Iran, so they can't even coup that fucking orange pedophile...

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    defense secretary war secretary IFTFY

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