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[–] 83 points 8 months ago (38 children)

Reddit used to get flooded with bots before elections. By 2024, they were just around all the time. I got permabanned after that, but it's probably even worse by now.

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    You're not missing anything. Reddit is the embodiment of Empty Internet Theory. If you're a human posting on that site, you're a statistical anomaly. And not for long, because everyone's getting booted.

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    I got booted because:

    1. I said Peter Thiel should be turned to soup

    2. I said Th-iel should be turned to soup

    3. I said that I had previously been given a suspension for saying Peter Thiel should be turned to soup.

    So now I'm redditless.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Care to post a recipe for that soup?

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (10 children)
    • Boiling Hydrofluoric Acid
    • Peter Thiel

    I don't recommend eating the rich, due to Prions. It'd be better to render them and process them into fertiliser.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    That rendering process better be thorough - prions survive in the soil.
    Edit: hydrofluric acid probably isn't very good for the soil either.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    My hungry pigs disagree with that advice

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Your hungry pigs and professor acid soup can wait till I'm done. I only get one life to eat a human.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    Its gotten really bad now that hidden profiles are a thing.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (15 children)
  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Basically all comment history is hidden. Very popular with totally organic pro Maga accounts.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Basically all comment history is hidden.

    Oh, actually I was forced to do that myself due to the slight possibility of doxxing, etc. Ten-year account over there that I still use, and traditionally I practice complete transparency. But the times, they is be changing...

    Oh, actually there is a workaround (or at least there used to be). Add the acct in question as a "friend," then click on the Friend stream. You'll be able to see their content.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Just delete your account and start a new one. There is literally nothing that you gain from using an old account apart from increased risk.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    One can get banned for that, as well as the fact that you're once again uploading info that might possibly be used against you in future. Even the Fediverse tracks its accounts as I understand it and makes one's history semi-permanent.

    The only true alternative I know is to take part in an accountless system or one which is heavily anonymized, like the 'Chan' stuff or whatever. For me it's just far easier to tread lightly, and avoid certain topics.

    EDIT: Downvote away, but give me a rebuttal if you can.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The only true alternative is to just have more alts, one for specific interests where each each individual one is not enough to ban you. Platforms that clearly have thrived off of them should facilitate people using them instead of using it as an excuse to ban people when they want to.

    It also doesn't help when those platforms are deliberately trying to harvest as much personal data they can off of their users and often have engagement bait posts to get their users to get them to identify increasingly personal data about themselves that is otherwise nothing anyone would care about.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not sure how they do it exactly, but Reddit is evidently really good at detecting alts. Not necessarily by IP# or common information across accounts, but by... well I don't know, some deep algorithms or something?

    Reddit still has use to me, and there are one or two communities in which I have roots and a relationship with the mods, etc. I'd really rather not mess around with that or risk getting in to an 'account war' with Reddit over alts. At least at this time...

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    They also use browser fingerprinting, session information, and geolocation, powered by generative AI. IP can easily be cycled in most ISPs, so they'd end up hurting themselves if they just used that.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Fedi, tracking accounts? What do you mean by "tracking"?

    Semi-permanent, yeah, I'll give you that one. That said, if you delete something, generally it's actually deleted. Any servers which turn out to be ignoring delete requests tend to get cut off from everyone else pretty quickly. I guess there's always the possibility your "hey this post was deleted" notification might not bubble through to a given server, but it should work.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yes, I think you explained it well. I'd not stated it very precisely, and I do feel like this is a low-risk platform at the moment.

    Still, there's always the potential risk that whatever is posted & commented here can be tracked and recorded in to a permanent record of sorts. And that AI / other tools could possibly be used to collect such info and profile people. Things are changing fast, so I deem it best to be cautious, with an eye on the future.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    As someone who has gotten banned by the admins for stupid reasons that should have been overturned but weren't.......... Having a new account is a pain in the ass for a couple of months and/or until you build up karma.

    It's stupidly painful.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I've seen several accounts here on Lemmy that go to an error page when you click on the name on their post. I always report them to the admins and never see them again. Never heard back from anyone what's going on. I've developed a habit of checking the profiles of posts that just seem off.

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    I’ve not yet noticed any deviations from the norm

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Everyone on the Internet is a bot except you.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    I saw some obvious bots like a week ago, there are some among us for sure.

    Maybe there's more than usual, because of the Iran related stuff.

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  • [–] 54 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    No there is just a major world event, a war in Iran, and people want to dump their angry hot takes about it incessantly. So you are going to have a big influx of people grandstanding about it being good or evil.

    The majority of posters are indistinguishable from bots, because well, just like bots, they are working off a contrived script about who is good and who is evil.

    I've seen some pretty broad and good takes about the current conflict, but they are far and few and most of the replies are harassing them for not picking a side.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Some of the bots, on the other hand, are very easily distinguishable from humans. The one who's profile I checked out was posting well-polished exactly bot-like political memes for the past few months at a rate that would be a full-time job for an unassisted human.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    most of the replies are harassing them for not picking a side.

    This is Lemmy; let’s not pretend there’s an actual choice of which side to pick to avoid harassment or even mod intervention.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    I saw a couple that were obviously bots, when I looked at a news-relevant hashtag on mastodon today. I only noticed two, but that's two more than usual.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    Maybe there's just a higer percentage of neurospicy people on the fediverse.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I feel very confident this is the case. And I also suspect that most of the "bots" or "shills" or whatever other inauthentic accounts people think they are identifying are just these same types of people who have unusual posting habits or communication styles. I've yet to see one iota of evidence that there are any accounts masquerading as something they're not to influence politics. The only actual bots I've seen are the boring spambots who just post scam links at a rapid rate.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago* (16 children)

    I'm skeptical. I just think there is a higher percentage of people who use that label to justify their persecution complexes, which justify their anger/rage that they direct towards others. I bet you the vast majority of people who rail about 'normies' are themselves, are very much normies themselves.

    even IRL I have seen a huge uptick the past few years of people, in casual conversation, self-diagnosing themselves with conditions to excuse their poor behaviors, or sometimes even their simple mistakes. I don't understand any of it, personally. As far as I can tell mental health terminology has become basically slang at this point, whereas 10-20 years ago it was nonexistent in pop culture and casual speech.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    This is just a long way to say "in my day, no one was so called 'autistic'"

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    There is a massive difference between officially being diagnosed as being autistic and self-identifying as it. A differences based in clinical science.

    What is messed up is people can't acknowledge this, or act like this difference is oppressive and problematic.'

    According to self-diagnosis, I can easily convince myself I'm autistic or a million other mental conditions. But I am not. Because I'm not a professional clinician, and even if I was self-diagnosis is a violation of professional ethics.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You seem to think everyone has the option to become diagnosed but that's not the case. I've tried to be diagnosed and literally doctors seem to avoid it. And I can actually afford doctors while many cannot.

    I have mostly avoided self diagnosing myself as autistic but there are many signs of it. I shouldn't be blamed if I did say I'm probably slightly autistic. I'm not sure why an internet rando would know more about my situation than I do.

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  • [+] -7 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    literally everyone is slightly autistic. that is a useless classification.

    it's like saying have to eat food or you have to poop. so does litereally every other person who ever existed... it's not a distinguishing aspect of any one person over another.

    when you self-diagnose you are doing nothing more than taking a horoscope. i bet you are a 'little bit of a Pisces'. too.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago*

    When I first responded, I thought you were only a little off from an opinion I might understand. I was wrong.

    Also you contradicted the fuck out of yourself. You said if everyone is on the spectrum then no one is. So now you are nakedly foolish and ignorant.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Everyone has most traits of most mental health issues to some extent. Its not a useless classification though. Classic example is everyone pees but if youre doing it 40 times a day its probably time for the doctors.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It could be overused now where it wasn't before. Or it could be where it was suppressed before. It may be somewhere in the middle. Which is better than being ignored and alienated, even if some use is more hype than realism.

    I think we're all on a spectrum in lots of different ways. Rainbows. Rainbows everywhere.

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  • [+] -6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Saying we are all on the spectrum is the same as saying nobody is on it.

    That's why I'm skeptical. Saying you are autistic has no meaning anymore. Anyone could say it and believe it abotu themselves.

    That's VERY different than getting clinically diagnosed.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Well, how am I supposed to keep up with "politically correct" terminology if "ploticially correct" terminology keeps changing every year?

    I learned this term from a diagnosed autist last year (after refereling to her as "autist"). She told me she's very active in that community and that this was a preffered term. Now you tell me it's basically a dog whistle?

    I'll tell you what, I'm just gonna call everyone a dumbass and be done with it! Red Forman that shit.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Uh, "dumbass" has been used for decades to put people down who have intellectual deficiencies. This is 2026; you can't call people dumbasses.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    You aren't supposed to keep up with that shit. It's stupid.

    Assuming it isn't your professional job in some capacity.

    My take is if people get offended at you not calling them some preferred nomenclature... they are assholes. Well-adjusted people typically don't start a shitfit about such things. Nor is a single person's testimony anything to make a broader assumption upon.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I very much would like to agree with that,but in my experience the effort/reward is worth it. As in, it's only a little effort and it is very much appreciated. Even if you do it wrong every conversation, but cincerely promosie to do better next time. That still is appreciated.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    There are a lot of people out there, so many things can be true at once.

    I think it's inevitable that some people use labels as excuses just because awareness of those conditions is so much higher. I also think it's inevitable that there are a lot of people who struggled all their life with things that are difficult to diagnose or weren't on the minds of parents and teachers 30 years ago.

    And there's probably no way to ever say definitively, with evidence, either way on this -- but it would blow my fucking mind to find out that Lemmy didn't have a neurospicy percentage of participants significantly higher than the general population.

    And even if that were known to be untrue, I think Lemmy also attracts people who are more aware, open, and accepting of that stuff in themselves and others.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    There is a bot that posts nothing but links to reddit threads. I could block it or bots in general but then I won't be able to downvote the posts it makes. It moderates the communities it posts to so reporting it would do fuck all.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Not this bot again.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Just my guess - meant to bait people into making various threats to see how well Palantir's social media monitoring works at the fringes.

    Be careful out there, y'all.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    not as bad reddit

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  • [+] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    Lol nah, I just crosspost .ml (see below) and it's all done by human hands, I'm just hooked into the RSS feed to deliver notifications to my phone + a good workflow

    Why am I cross-posting .ml content?

    I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to help vitilize non-.ml comms and make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don't want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some active niche comms.

    Megathread on the issue

    Some highlights from the link:

    .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068

    "If you don't support Russia then you just don't understand geopolitics" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

    "Don't worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

    "See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn't count!!" ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

    "NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

    General negative sentiment to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

    And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can't even put them all here because this comment would be really long.

    I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda

    On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like "Lemmy? Isn't that the place with a bunch of tankies?" Or "Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left". The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I have noticed more personality posts stuff like relationship dramas but the phrasing in them is odd.

    Also a few more agitators…they are quick to be in and quite snarky. Maybe it was always there and I didn’t notice it.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Some people block political threads, so all that's left are those that don't block them... which tends to be people who strongly believe in their opinions or want to use it as a soapbox to rant... so there's rarely any just "chill" opinions or nuanced takes. Almost everyone on a political thread is gonna be angry at something... against one side, cheering for the destruction of one side... or both sides...

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Either way that doesn’t sound fun :( stay safe!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not really surprised, in a lot of ways Lemmy and its fediverse is even more susceptible, although you don't need bots when a lot of people are as braindead as many of them, you just need to filter out susceptible users into cults-on-demand and brainwash them into acting like them.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    A bunch of the ABWD sleepers reactivated recently. I don' think they are bots, but after a year of being very quiet, they all came out of their termite holes after being quiet for about a year.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    every waking moment of your life is on lemmy?

    for me it's maybe 5-8 hours out of my workweek, only an hour today!

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    for me it depends on how you mark time. I have it up all day so I could technically engage throughout the day but realistically im hitting it in spurts that can be a quick min to more than an hour. I bet it adds up but ultimately im only on it between things.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I've noticed a few, but nothing crazy. Just the occasional post where I can tell this is an automated account that isn't marked as such, posting shit like short-captioned AI slop images 1-3 times a day, usually on Mastodon and not Lemmy.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    lol. bots. as if us humans on the internet would not be real carbon based life forms from this planet. so funny.

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