Advertising unethical
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Some local news sites in my city show local ads that are simply static images loaded in their pages, mimicking traditional newspaper ads, without any kind of tracking. Although it's questionable at a philosophical level if ads can be ethical, I can live with it, and that method will pass automated adblockers, so it's a win-win.
You know, I think I’d be okay with that. As long as it’s not something that’s begging for your attention or trying to get you to click on it.
Or loading at random intervals so you have to scroll around to find where you were before the page jumped around. Very little infuriates me more.
I could almost live with ads if they were static, but the typical article-reading experience without afblock goes like this:
See the first paragraph. Start reading. An autoplay video pops in at the top of the page obscuring the view. You scroll down but it's pinned to the top of the viewport. You close it with the miniscule x button. You finish the first paragraph and scroll down past a huge ad to the next paragraph. A banner ad appears at the bottom of the page. You dismiss it with the x. You start reading and two seconds later the banner you dismissed reappears with a new ad, obscuring the content again. You try to dismiss it, but miss and open the ad. Press back in the browser and start again from step 1.
Its exhausting, and it's so painfully constrained, like trying to view a webpage by peeking at it through someone's letterbox.
The Internet with ads, as it stands, is not worth seeing.
I think the biggest issue with personalised ads is that they can exploit weaknesses in people are prevent public discourse about themselves (since they're different for everyone), which is especially bad for political ads. So these ads that you're describing seem good in my book.
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ad blockers are necessary to effectively navigate the internet
anyone who would seriously think using adblock is unethical is a bootlick
I'm old enough to remember when the internet managed to end banner ads, popup ads, and flashing ads....
Ad networks are known to be a large distributor of malware and scams.
it’s prudent to block ads.
This seems flipped, there's no way a majority of people like ads.
Maybe it should be Low IQ are people who don't know what an ad blocker is, and High IQ are people who say ad blocking is unethical.
This seems flipped, there's no way a majority of people like ads.
Honestly from some of the interactions I've had with my peers I didn't even think of the meme as strange.
Like one time I saw my roommate running Opera GX of all browsers without any adblockers and I asked him "don't these ads bother you?" and he responded, I shit you not, "no, quite the opposite! they're really helpful!". I didn't say anything because at that moment I was genuinely stunlocked.
I had a similar experience with a work colleague. His response? "They are helpful. They tell me what to buy". I guess some people are just like that.
This might surprise you, but if you walk around town you get bombarded with ads actually.
Fun fact: not where I live. Billboards are not allowed within 18 metres of a road, and any business signage has to be both on the property of the business and at least 4 metres away from the road. You can easily walk around down town and see exactly 0 ads and it is bliss.
I said walk though, not drive.
Funny that you have better laws than we do though...
I also said walk through. Doesn't matter where you are, walking or driving, you will not see ads for things unless you are actively looking at a business advertising itself.
Your adblocker doesn't protect you outside?
i do not need that information
i know, crazy, but humans basically just need food and shelter to live
"newest products and services" is not in the hierarchy of needs
That’s such a weird thing to say. Ads don’t show you things that are good, if they were better products they wouldn’t need to press you over it. I can’t think of a time where I found something cool I didn’t know about through an ad, short of movie trailers that I actively sought out.
For example, a few years back I found out that safety razors shave closer, give me less razor burn, and cost 100x less than cartridge razors. Which one of the two gets ads?
If there's something I want I'll search for that product category myself, and read reviews and comparisons from entities that aren't sponsored.
Turns out when I need a thing I can look for it without a company trying to prey on my insecurities
I think you’re just used to the lemmy(/reddit) crowd. Pretty much everyone I casually know has ads when they show me something on youtube. Every time I ask “Why not use an adblocker?” they reply either “The ads don’t bother me” or “I want to support the content creators”.
Doesn’t make sense to me. I’ll buy some swag or donate to creators I like, but I am not voluntarily watching ads.
I know several people who only watched the Superbowl for the advertisments / halftime show.
Regardless of how shitty it is, one of the big cultural touchstones is also the advertisements they played on tv when someone was growing up. A lot of people use ads as another way to connect with a new person; meeting a other local to your area means you can mention a particularly overplayed ad from childhood and likely be able to find another person who saw it growing up too.
A lot of people use ads as another way to connect with a new person; meeting a other local to your area means you can mention a particularly overplayed ad from childhood and likely be able to find another person who saw it growing up too.
Do you think this is true for younger generations than millennials? Obviously ads with high production value like matt damon's fortune favors the brave gets talked about, but I don't know anyone who makes cultural references to a generic ad on TV or YouTube with average production value. I think for the average advertisement nowadays, there's too much saturation of content and not everyone watching ads, that you couldn't have a normal ad like this mundane Sears Air Conditioner commercial be ingrained in kids memories.
You know, I expect that the generational divide will change which ads people connect over, but I don't think that the majority of people will stop using them as a way of connection.
The new hotness is making fun of raid shadow legends, and I expect there's several others I just don't know about as well.
I'd say you just need to swap the label for adblock unethical and adblock smart.
Adblockers came up in conversation with a (non-techie) friend the other day and they said they don't have one because they are afraid they'd "get the wrong one" or end up with a virus trying to download "something like that" because they've had trouble with those shady download websites that have a ton of fake download buttons... Like, they look at adblocker as if it is the most scandalous form of piracy or something.
Old bit of computer lying around? Adguard DNS baby
who are these people in the middle
i do not recognize them
I've been with the monk since the days of recording shows to VHS to fast forward past the commercials.
AdNauseum has a built in whitelist for ethical ads which I'm happy to leave enabled. I see them on some blogs I read and on the option search page for Home Manager.
I habe been at all three of these stages in my life, so this seems pretty accurate
i'm quite curious about your "adblock unethical" phase because... the fuck?
Seriously, the fuck? In what world is it unethical to opt out of having trash thrown in my face?
The only argument ive seen with any weight is for content creators whose revenue stream is ad dependent, and even then sorry not sorry im not turning off ublock
I think everyone who can uses ublock, no?
I didn't see an ad in actual years, and went to a friend's house a day ago and saw a singular ad, I instantly got whiplash like "holy crap, people actually live like this". Feels like a lack of standards almost
galaxy brain: adblock with badblock ethical whitelist and badblock emergency whitelist is ethical
don't think this is how bell curves work

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