Send Canadian oil to Cuba | CCPA (www.policyalternatives.ca)
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[–] 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's war, aimed at causing widespread suffering among civilians. We should be standing up against it. All indications so far are that we won't do anything.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I would support this humanitarian effort.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    What they're suggesting would be a lot easier and cheaper if we still had a nationalized oil industry.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    But isn't that evil authoritarian communism? /s

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Doesn't even have to be fully nationalized, even owning just one national oil company like Petro-Canada was so that profits stay for Canadians and we have freedom to choose to do something like this.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Why stop at oil, why not forestry, mining, manufacturing, tech, real estate?

    Alberta cant be the only one with their resources being redirected, wouldnt a full socialist utopia in every province be a fairer path?

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Canada should send a whole shitload of fuel down to Cuba. Haven't we been enjoying relatively cheap vacations for decades from this country? It's time to give back.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Pretty sure Cuba profited from CDN tourism.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Cuba as a country, sure. Individual people, not as much as they should.

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  • [+] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    This is already absolutely happening. The entire world is gravitating away from the US and towards China. Countries that were very cautious about China are embracing them with open arms.

    The world order is not about β€œgood” and β€œbad”. It is β€œbetter” and β€œworse”. The US is now worse. And I do not think they believe the rest of us have options.

    They don’t have the cards.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    ... if Canada were to team up with China in a humanitarian effort ...

    I would agree Canada to send oil to Cuba, but Canada doesn't need China for this. And China's own support for Cuba doesn't reflect 'humanitarian effort' but rather an attempt to gain influence in the region. Very much as the US administration, China has no interest in humanitarian assistance, they seek leverage over others to exploit them for their own goals.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    China can use economical pressure on the usa to allow countries to give aid to Cuba but they are selfish and self centered . Canada who is still selling weapons to the terrorist stste of israel also do it for keeping the fake image of the country wjo always stand for human rights values

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  • [+] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    Look at how many countries the west destroyed in the last few decades. They will continue to destroy everything where China can do business. Chinese selfishness could hurt them in the long term

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    What China wants to do in the rest of the world is to raise the world standard of living in order to produce a larger market for Chinese exports

    and what the west is doing is to fuel civil wars all over the countries China want to do business with . Rebuilding what the west destroyed takes decades to fix .

    China is selfish because they keep ignoring how serious is the destruction of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela and the attempt to destroy Iran . The policy of non interference may seems smart in short term but not in long term. China should be clear with American do not mess with our business

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  • [+] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I am sorry but China can't outbuild what is destroyed by civil wars.

    China is NOT afraid to send America a very strong

    A strong message is a message that comes will real threats. Which one China send. What the actions China would do if the usa don't listen?

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  • [+] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    When will they use it? When china has no stable ally anymore to do business peacefully?

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    Like I already say the USA is taking down Chinese allies one by one and China is not using it's economical leverage to force the USA to behave . Africa is fueled by civil wars backed by the west and they will continue to fuel new ones. Trade needs stability Europe is just moving a bit temporary to China because of Trump but they will come back to the USA if dems wins again

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  • [+] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] -5 points 8 months ago* (16 children)

    Why don't we start with Afghanistan? The humanitarian situation there has been negatively effected by trade being cut off. That's the only consideration, right? /s

    The sad thing is, parts of Lemmy might not dislike the Taliban, either.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    If you don't understand why we shouldn't let Trump and his posse bully anyone they like in the western hemisphere, you're more like CanadaMinus

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Sure, let's be realistic and provoke an insane Fascist with a $1T military at his disposal.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    What's he going to do, impose tarrifs?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    No way western propaganda makes it impossible to support any middle eastern country not already allied with the US.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Who mentioned the Middle East?

    If you're going to white knight a country, at least be able to find it on a map.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Bordering the middle east my bad I don't care about colony borders made by racist white people in history.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Sure, like assuming Islam is a region isn't racist. At least the people that want to bomb (the fictional city of) Agrabah don't pretend to care about Muslims.

    FWIW Iranians don't even love being lumped in with the Arabs. Afghanistan is culturally Persian, and closer to the central Asian steppe homelands and south Asia than to the Middle East.

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  • [+] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Wow, it actually does have a little panhandle squeaking past Tajikistan, I never noticed that. The fact it bordered the Soviet Union is also a big hint it may not be sunny and Mediterranean.

    And, I mean, OP was the only one who brought the category up!

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Wow, it's amazing a few bombing survivors could completely change a province of 25 million. That makes this genocide okay. /s

    Mind you, Western news tells the story slightly differently

    Also a family member of mine who was there several times.

    Edit: Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point. You were just arguing against a "everyone against the West is good" guy.

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